[dev1135] New Special Job Abilities
[dev1135] New Special Job Abilities
Isn't pld on Rag? I know lolpld with lolGsword, but aint they?
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Isn't pld on Rag? I know lolpld with lolGsword, but aint they?
The issue is the lack of damage-boosting job abilities since the majority of PLDs' are defensive and require a shield.
Yes, but then it can't use a shield.
Yes, I get the lack of shield thing. But rune fencer won't get one either. So we'll have to just compare Gsword to Gsword, no? Which is what I was sayin'. Obviously rune fencer's runes are going to have to be borderline OP to make it a straight DD, no?
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Yes, I get the lack of shield thing. But rune fencer won't get one either. So we'll have to just compare Gsword to Gsword, no? Which is what I was sayin'. Obviously rune fencer's runes are going to have to be borderline OP to make it a straight DD, no?
It was not stated that Rune fencer will be a straight DD, just that it will be a magically-inclined tank with better output than PLD.
I never said it would be a straight DD.
I said it would have a higher damage output than a Paladin.
If only because a Paladin without an Aegis or Ochain equipped belongs nowhere but a Mog House.
I said it would have a higher damage output than a Paladin.
If only because a Paladin without an Aegis or Ochain equipped belongs nowhere but a Mog House.
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Yes, I get the lack of shield thing. But rune fencer won't get one either. So we'll have to just compare Gsword to Gsword, no? Which is what I was sayin'. Obviously rune fencer's runes are going to have to be borderline OP to make it a straight DD, no?
I've quit a while ago but I still read these posts and updates.
Since i'm a SCH main I have some concerns for our 2hr.
"Transfers the whole party's enmity to a party member of your choice."
1.) Why is this a 2hr? I'm actually surprise other SCHs aren't upset. This should be a normal ability that should be shared by libra timer for balancing purposes.
2.) They're stating that these 2hr can be merited to increase in potency or whatever. So why would a sch go full merits in this 2hr? what would it do? Give more enmity? One usage would give that target all enmity regardless.
Since i'm a SCH main I have some concerns for our 2hr.
"Transfers the whole party's enmity to a party member of your choice."
1.) Why is this a 2hr? I'm actually surprise other SCHs aren't upset. This should be a normal ability that should be shared by libra timer for balancing purposes.
2.) They're stating that these 2hr can be merited to increase in potency or whatever. So why would a sch go full merits in this 2hr? what would it do? Give more enmity? One usage would give that target all enmity regardless.
New SCH 2-hr is going to be the source of so much drama. Pissed of SCHs targetting mages with it, etc.
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
SE has directly slated that Rune Fencer will have higher damage output than a Paladin.
And yes, base STR is totally the determining factor in how much damage you can do.
And yes, base STR is totally the determining factor in how much damage you can do.
lol It is for reso spam! But seriously, the difference in acc/att through skill difference isn't going to be a "significant" difference in their output I don't think. It's not like h2h. If I'm understanding it all correctly h2h is the only dmg majorly influenced by skill. But I see what you're getting at.
I'll be surprised if Rune Fencer actually ends up being useful either way.
Dumbest 2hr in that update I believe.
Hey I'll transfer everyone enmity to you every 2hrs!
Hey I'll transfer everyone enmity to you every 2hrs!
Cause it's not like enmity even caps. SE sometimes seems clueless.
Seems?
But yeah, that's a pretty niche 2hr. You can MPK someone with it, or you can use it to dump hate onto somebody in the rare case that you're holding adds, not supertanking, things somehow go horribly wrong.
But yeah, that's a pretty niche 2hr. You can MPK someone with it, or you can use it to dump hate onto somebody in the rare case that you're holding adds, not supertanking, things somehow go horribly wrong.
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Yes, I get the lack of shield thing. But rune fencer won't get one either. So we'll have to just compare Gsword to Gsword, no? Which is what I was sayin'. Obviously rune fencer's runes are going to have to be borderline OP to make it a straight DD, no?
rampart, and sentinel do what exactly then? but clearly you guys got where i was goin. fair enough
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Seems?
But yeah, that's a pretty niche 2hr. You can MPK someone with it, or you can use it to dump hate onto somebody in the rare case that you're holding adds, not supertanking, things somehow go horribly wrong.
But yeah, that's a pretty niche 2hr. You can MPK someone with it, or you can use it to dump hate onto somebody in the rare case that you're holding adds, not supertanking, things somehow go horribly wrong.
This is my plan. Every 2 hours. Someone is going down.
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Kal just trolled me, I thought this was a new thread, but she just changed the name -_-;;;;;;;
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Cause it's not like enmity even caps. SE sometimes seems clueless.
Just sometimes?
On top of that the big majority looks like a crap that should be a regular job abitlity... another meritable system crap to limit the point of the job system itself :/
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
New SCH 2-hr is going to be the source of so much drama. Pissed of SCHs targetting mages with it, etc.
*Sarcasm on* wow Thank you SE, I can be like a thf every 2 hours *Sarcasm off* Since when can scholar fully control the flow of enmity like THF x.x come on SE! Augeo and Minuo aren't enough i guess.
anyway I kinda wonder what the name of DNC's new two hour be like?
"Finale"? or "Spotlight"?
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
New SCH 2-hr is going to be the source of so much drama. Pissed of SCHs targetting mages with it, etc.
I can see your entire server using it on you for your FFXIAH avatars :P
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Does the sam 2hour let you avoid everything ironclads do (if it's on the test server/been tested)?
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Wow, drg 2 hour got even worse. So instead of increased parameters, we get more Enhanced wyvern breath. Let's see, drg already has how many pieces they can equip to improve breath attacks?? There are 3 pieces of gear that can be equipped at the same time that increase it directly, this isnt counting wyvern hp+ gear. If we count this, drg has 7 slots, I believe, it can macro stuff in for healing/attack breath increases... I doubt anyone would go through that trouble, but it's there if we want it. This is not what drg needed.
Someone needs to re-sub the Hitler video on youtube for these new 2 hours lol.
Someone needs to re-sub the Hitler video on youtube for these new 2 hours lol.
Oh I almost forgot.
Have you guys found out about the duration of each new two hours last?
Have you guys found out about the duration of each new two hours last?
Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Does the sam 2hour let you avoid everything ironclads do (if it's on the test server/been tested)?
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Kal just trolled me, I thought this was a new thread, but she just changed the name -_-;;;;;;;
You're welcome =P
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As awful as most of these are, I'm still holding out for the merit system to increase their effectiveness. If they're designed to be enhanced then I would expect the base to be underwhelming. Let's just hope that the enhancements aren't all 'adds 5 seconds to the duration' and the like.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
Valefor.Monkeynutz said: »
As awful as most of these are, I'm still holding out for the merit system to increase their effectiveness. If they're designed to be enhanced then I would expect the base to be underwhelming. Let's just hope that the enhancements aren't all 'adds 5 seconds to the duration' and the like.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
i thought about the same thing as well, but then i remembered that they also stated that current 2hours are going to get merits also.
thus right back to square one -.-;
Like most everyone said already, DRG's new 2 hour sounds like crap, but I still wonder how much stronger the wyvern will be. If it increases the offensive breaths from like ~200 to ~800+, for 5 minutes or something, it might not be all THAT bad. With an OAT, you can spam a ***load of WS's in 5 minutes.
Valefor.Monkeynutz said: »
As awful as most of these are, I'm still holding out for the merit system to increase their effectiveness. If they're designed to be enhanced then I would expect the base to be underwhelming. Let's just hope that the enhancements aren't all 'adds 5 seconds to the duration' and the like.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
That said, I'm probably giving SE too much credit.
So how do you see SCHs 2hr being increased in effectiveness? Enlighten me please.
The only way I see this being increased in effectiveness is by making it where you direct hate to a target and there is no way ANYBODY in the party can steal hate from target for a given duration. Yet that would be OVERPOWERED... -_-
Can we get a video of the new 2hrs that are out?
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