Blue Mage In Neo Nyzul

If it's any help to you, instead of wasting CA/eff on trash mobs, I'd recommend UL and use tourbillion when you round up mobs~
I try to save at least CA or Efflux for leader floors or specified group mob floors~

Edit: Thaumas coat looks really well matched with the Serpentes set and w legs :3
Had to toss that in here

I have seen a lot of BLUs; especially since abyssea. and most of them (myself included) are mediocre, but enjoy the job because it is fun and diverse to play.

But, I have seen some BLUs who amaze me at what they can do across all spans of content. The problem is these BLUs are far and few in-between.

So if you know the BLU you are taking is the bees-knees, who cares what others think. NNI shouts happen all day long, I am sure at one point some of these PUG BLUs are going to have you coming back for more when you PM them to plz join your NNI group.

a very easy way to filter that since most mediocre blus do this for these kind events is sub anything but /war and some silly offhand that's mp related.

a lot of them have almace but just sub something HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE like /rdm (no we're not at Rex.) or /whm

and of course to see what they use for physical, tp, ws should be a pretty good hint also




Leoheart: I dont think it's such a waste to use one on trash mobs you would probrably only complete a full SC on a nm or floor leader but you probrably need 2 spells to kill a trash mob while CA or EFflux heavy will oneshot it. Saving UL for boss floors isn't such a bad idea you can use frightful roar if you have the space or some like to use b.typhoon. CA or Efflux aren't job job abilities that should be held onto for very long if active and should be used asap for kill speed. They'll come back up sooner than you think.



Krylon: I can't be sure I'm not a math person so I dont want to throw figures around. I know that CA is stronger than Efflux and should be used first. The 100% darkness should always happens unless you get a resist on sc damage and yes because of what you were saying about every other dd you aren't going to self sc with them near, I wouldn't bother honestly, too much waiting cuts into your damage if they're all attacking at the rate of embrava + 2hander stp anyways.

Certain spells also benefit more from CA and Efflux more than others Whirl of Rage is a nice boost with just one but both attached have never been as strong as I've liked when I could have separated them but WoR isn't supposed to be the strongest spell either.


Also Blue Magic damage fluctuates is another reason why I speak tentatively of what is better for use on CA and/or Efflux and I haven't parsed blue magic since I dont use it as much (I spam VW and Prov) and I rarely step in abbsyea. I just know blue magic does a fantastic and aggravating job of tossing your strongest spells on a mob and watching it stay at 1% (because tanaka likes to troll in his retirement.)

Well when I say save CA / Efflux I mean not to use it wastefully on stuff where your spells should be sufficient enough on their own.

One thing that does annoy me though, is heavy strike whiffs :(

@ Gimp - I'll try separating the two next time we do NNI and see the results. It seems like its situational in most cases, however. On all enemy floors do you aggro a buncha stuff and bring it all together to WoR/Benthic? If so then splitting CA + WoR and Efflux + Benthic would probably be best in that particular situation.

I still like CA + Efflux + A.Spikes on something like Psycheflayer Enemy Leader. That paired with CDC pretty much kills it if you get to the NM before the others do.

@ Leohart - I don't use CA/Efflux unless its enemy leader or spec family (especially chariots) or boss floor obviously UNLESS its the situation above where a CA WoR and a Efflux Benthic will clear a ton of mobs on a kill all floor.

Heavy Strike whiffs are definitely frustrating :(

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Curious to see the physical sets yall are using for NNI.


Mine:

slight necro wouldn't mind some more opinions about this

Run and Efflux a Bilgestorm for stat down always helps, or Diffusion+Occultation but Diffusion is best with Animated Wail to be sure everyone has haste(It's sometimes hard as sch to maintain haste on everyone since ppl are split up and always running around or getting dispelled randomly or w/e, so this would ensure all the DDs receive 5min haste) Delta Thrust might help due to Plague, to reduce TP moves, keep your finger on Winds of Promy and Cleric's Drink to take off random debuffs . Can also tossing out an Actinic Burst can buy the DD's a few more hits on Third Eye.

I wouldn't bother with Conals either. I normally go BLU/WAR and use most of my points to set TA/DW3/sTP/Magic Fruit/Occultation so the only utility spells I have left is like Dream Flower or Whirl of Rage. Don't bother setting benthic or anything, just whirl of rage with CAfflux is enough to do 2.5k+ damage to everything in a room, besides you have empty thrash and acrid stream as well if you really want conal, but setting stronger conals is a waste of time and mp. Only time I really even use Whirl is like if its an All Floor and there's a room or hallway with more than 3 mobs clustered, run by em to aggro then Caflux whirl and while they're stunned could BA Hades em down or Empty thrash em then pick off the remainders with melee or delta/heavy.

So...

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...does anyone, who's not a blu, think blu is on par with other jobs for nyzul? Pretty hard to be convinced from what I'm reading here, when people are mentioning things like Occultation, Sheep Song and having a fail sch as reasons why blu would be useful.

The only saving grace for blu is the fact that you don't necessarily need heavy DDs for NNI. Given enough coordination, communication and luck, you can get by using mediocre DDs.

Sudden lunge is one of the biggest benefits to bringing a BLU, it can potentially save a lot of time. If the BLU isn't gimp they won't be doing bad damage so its not much of a loss.

I'd bring Draylo on his blu to Neo-Nyzul np.

I can say that a good blu is a perfectly acceptable addition to a nyzul group. It functions perfectly fine as a DD and does have access to some stuns and AoE dmg. The new merit sword WS also is very nice on flans and such i'd assume.

Source: person in my group had 99 masamune and 90almace blu, would come whichever was faster to gear, no difference in floors cleared/win rate that I noticed (small sample sizes and what not though I suppose).

If you don't understand why BLU is a heavy DD in Nyzul, then I suggest you refrain from passing judgment.

It was great when I used it in nyzul. I use BLU a lot but I still enjoy my RNG more so I don't consider myself a main BLU. I still believe BLU is one of the best, if not the best, DD for kill all floors. BLU falls slightly behind on leader floors though. However, sudden lunge can be really helpful on those floors.

BLU really excels on the custards/puddings assuming you have requiescat 5/5.

Did you notice how other people went ahead and explained what a blu can do in NNI and you're the only one who got all defensive about it?

Did you notice any of Proth's OTHER posts in this thread?

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^This. It's been referred to, explained, and otherwise engrained on this website, even in this very thread, numerous times. Your inability to believe the hard information due to some preexisting bias or other disposition is offensive.

I skimmed it, it's not relevant to what I'm asking.

I'm asking, in loose terms, what a blu can bring to the table. I'm not asking for specific strategies.

The only answers I've gotten so far that's relevant is aoe damage and a stun on a short recast. I can go on a short rant about how simplistic your 'advice' is, but I'm not in the mood for a pissing contest right now.

Someone's mad that RDM still sucks and can't get a spot for Nyzul :(



My "simplistic advice" has been enough to help enough people to where I can safely say you can go piss with someone else.

Does that last up to 25 seconds?

Does it? :o Cuz Sudden Lunge does.

lolabyssea but I've stunned Chloris for 27 seconds during its Hundred Fists. ***is goddamn potent.

Nobody said that's the only reason BLU is useful. If Nyzul mobs are as squishy as I think they are, Sudden Lunge enables you to kill them before they even do anything.

lol

Narrow-mindedness isn't a virtue, just saying.

Laff don't worry about it man, it's just a poor attempt at counter trolling a troll that never happened, guy feels entitled or something.

No, no, you've helped me too. Now I know to kill multiple things whenever possible and to cure myself when I'm low on HP.

I would take any BLU like Draylo or Proth over Kinetix's DRK.



Just sayin'