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 Siren.Ulicaura
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By Siren.Ulicaura 2014-06-17 08:17:20
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
MAcc+30,MAB+10,MDmg+15,Enmity-10.

Sounds nice all around for Wildfire/Laeden Salute.

Hmm, for all around usage would the MAB or magic damage be a better choice here?
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-17 08:50:48
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Cerberus.Balloon said: »
How's Leaden stack up against WF now with the AGI and ilvl buff?




No ADL ring, not on darksday, no storm, no staff and no boost AGI, gear set not optimal. Mandy outside of adoulin.


I'm trying to break 20k but need day/storm!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-17 08:51:52
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Hurkan with aura down at 3k tp did 8k dmg lol.
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2014-06-17 09:21:20
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I just came back from a hiatus, is the gap between Kheper and Khepri too large to consider - Obviously I'm aiming to get all the AF119 but until then could I be shooting in Kheper and not feel like the gimpiest cor in all the land?
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2014-06-17 09:23:29
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Also, anyone have what the updated MAB/Macc Rolls are and what if there's a quick function I can add in to calculate roll values when you add the + Phantom Roll rings?
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By Siren.Ulicaura 2014-06-17 09:29:06
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Cerberus.Balloon said: »
How's Leaden stack up against WF now with the AGI and ilvl buff?




No ADL ring, not on darksday, no storm, no staff and no boost AGI, gear set not optimal. Mandy outside of adoulin.


I'm trying to break 20k but need day/storm!

Can't see the picture, what's the damage??


Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hurkan with aura down at 3k tp did 8k dmg lol.

That brings a tear to my eye
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2014-06-17 09:32:11
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Siren.Ulicaura said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Cerberus.Balloon said: »
How's Leaden stack up against WF now with the AGI and ilvl buff?




No ADL ring, not on darksday, no storm, no staff and no boost AGI, gear set not optimal. Mandy outside of adoulin.


I'm trying to break 20k but need day/storm!

Can't see the picture, what's the damage??


Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hurkan with aura down at 3k tp did 8k dmg lol.

That brings a tear to my eye

was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-17 09:38:51
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Asura.Reichleiu said: »
Siren.Ulicaura said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Cerberus.Balloon said: »
How's Leaden stack up against WF now with the AGI and ilvl buff?




No ADL ring, not on darksday, no storm, no staff and no boost AGI, gear set not optimal. Mandy outside of adoulin.


I'm trying to break 20k but need day/storm!

Can't see the picture, what's the damage??


Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hurkan with aura down at 3k tp did 8k dmg lol.

That brings a tear to my eye

was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.

Image doesn't work? @@ weird. It worked just fine on my PC.
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By Siren.Ulicaura 2014-06-17 09:47:38
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Asura.Reichleiu said: »
was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.

Note to self: go unlock LS
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-17 09:54:01
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Siren.Ulicaura said: »
Asura.Reichleiu said: »
was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.

Note to self: go unlock LS


I think for none DP user or buffed situations last stand is still stronger. I did a last stand with just chaos and no additional debuff/buff/food it was 12k with STR gun. Usually in delve it's a lot higher than outside solo.

I need to check when I get a chance to delve.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-17 10:13:15
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Siren.Ulicaura said: »
Asura.Reichleiu said: »
was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.

Note to self: go unlock LS


I think for none DP user or buffed situations last stand is still stronger. I did a last stand with just chaos and no additional debuff/buff/food it was 12k with STR gun. Usually in delve it's a lot higher than outside solo.

I need to check when I get a chance to delve.

He means Leaden Salute, not Last Stand.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-17 10:15:32
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Siren.Ulicaura said: »
Asura.Reichleiu said: »
was 17k damage. Can see the image if you save it or open it in a new window.

Note to self: go unlock LS


I think for none DP user or buffed situations last stand is still stronger. I did a last stand with just chaos and no additional debuff/buff/food it was 12k with STR gun. Usually in delve it's a lot higher than outside solo.

I need to check when I get a chance to delve.

He means Leaden Salute, not Last Stand.

I know, I'm just saying last stand may still beat leaden salute for none DP users depending on situation.

Also, darksday is finally here and 20k+ leaden salute got! :D
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-06-17 11:35:12
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the Phantom Roll +5 Ring can be purchased with 6 Paragon KIs, same with the Nepote Bell. They're on the last page.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-17 11:44:25
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
the Phantom Roll +5 Ring can be purchased with 6 Paragon KIs, same with the Nepote Bell. They're on the last page.


You can buy them from other player I think.
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By fractalvoid 2014-06-17 20:40:02
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The new phantom roll rings don't stack - correct?
Apologize if this has been covered already.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-17 22:36:39
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What are the exact effects of the rings?

Also would +2% weapon skill damage on say shark dagger add damage to last stand or wildfire?
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By fractalvoid 2014-06-17 22:52:32
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The effects are Phantom Roll +3 and Phantom Roll +5, from sparks and Yumcax (or you can buy from AH or with all 6 KI) respectively.

The effects on Tact and Evoker's Roll were posted on here but I can't find the post atm. Not sure if they stack still, but I imagine it'd be a *** to find a way to get gearswap to work with swapping them and Luzaf's based on pt member distance either way... but I'm not sure.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 00:08:00
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They don't stack
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-18 01:20:24
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
What are the exact effects of the rings?

Also would +2% weapon skill damage on say shark dagger add damage to last stand or wildfire?

2% wsdmg does effect wildfire and last stand which is why people were using khepri / kheper jackets with 4%/5% wsdmg respectively
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-18 01:23:01
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hurkan with aura down at 3k tp did 8k dmg lol.

I did Hurkan yesterday on cor (and mine is not particularly well geared)

3000tp last stand aura down did 11k dmg 7k light skilllchain but im definitely going to go get leaden salute now those numbers look good.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-18 10:33:14
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Updated subs, weapons, some sets and the magic weapon skills formulas(about this though the ilvl part might be different, I've been reading some weird reports).

edit: also pending Leaden new ftp values Moonshade might actually be a thing for this ws. Most ws have gotten huge ftp scaling, somehow I feel Leaden is in the same boat which would make a Moonshade pretty hot stuff.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-18 10:35:52
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fractalvoid said: »
The effects are Phantom Roll +3 and Phantom Roll +5, from sparks and Yumcax (or you can buy from AH or with all 6 KI) respectively. The effects on Tact and Evoker's Roll were posted on here but I can't find the post atm. Not sure if they stack still, but I imagine it'd be a *** to find a way to get gearswap to work with swapping them and Luzaf's based on pt member distance either way... but I'm not sure.

I believe he's asking does that mean +time? +effect? what?

I'm not sure myself yet and haven't had proper time to test on my own.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-18 10:42:15
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Ok to answer the above questions:
1. The new rings don't stack(so ideally you want Luzaf+Barataria).
2. They incrase rolls potency(the +5 one should be 20%).
3. Atoyac WS damage doesn't seem worth it compared to mab.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 12:03:56
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ok to answer the above questions:
3. Atoyac WS damage doesn't seem worth it compared to mab.

But it does work right? Just needed it answered for my use on ranger and coronach, sorry if it's a semi-hijack. <3
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-18 12:24:36
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Haven't personally tested it to verify but I have no reason to believe it wouldn't work on a ranged ws.
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just tested it myself, thank god ranged damage is so consistent so I didnt need a large sample size:

Target: wild rabbit
weaponskill: coronach
@15 distance
atoyac equiped both occasions, otherwise naked.

No augment:
4498
4498
4498
4498

WS damage augment:
4587
4587
4587
4587

(4587-4498)=89
(89/4498)*100%=1.978
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By Carbuncle.Drygell 2014-06-18 15:48:40
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has anyone come up with an augment combo for all round use on the atoyac ?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-18 15:53:12
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Oat+mab seems the best idea if you don't have both Vanir and R15 Sabebus. If you have both of those then mab and macc.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-18 16:23:35
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
just tested it myself, thank god ranged damage is so consistent so I didnt need a large sample size:

Target: wild rabbit
weaponskill: coronach
@15 distance
atoyac equiped both occasions, otherwise naked.

No augment:
4498
4498
4498
4498

WS damage augment:
4587
4587
4587
4587

(4587-4498)=89
(89/4498)*100%=1.978

what ammo were you using?

naked, rng/war, 99 anni, using Prester
Adliviun Bullet - 5632
Achi Bullet - 6140
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By Carbuncle.Drygell 2014-06-18 17:30:49
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Oat+mab seems the best idea if you don't have both Vanir and R15 Sabebus. If you have both of those then mab and macc.
only got vanir gun atm so i guess i'll get OAT and MAB then thx seha.
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