The Pirates' Lair: A Guide To Corsair
The Pirates' Lair: A Guide to Corsair
If the assumptions are correct 4.65/4.4 is between 5 and 6% increase which is lower than 10%.
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Cerberus.Ezeichiel said: »
I have an Armageddon lol, was just told that the bonus tp gun beats it on last stand, but looking at both guns and the modifier for the ws I was just wondering the validity of that comment.
Why WF 300 TP>last stand though? WF 300 TP makes no difference for WS dmg, and both WS are situational and have their own use.
Bahamut.Havelock said: »
If the assumptions are correct 4.65/4.4 is between 5 and 6% increase which is lower than 10%.
Well I was under the impression that the WS dmg+10% ones, didn't actually add +10% WS dmg, but added +10% to the dmg rating of the gun and then calculated the WS dmg using the new D rating. Is this wrong? It always sounded odd to me, that this was how it worked, but I recall hearing that. Which would mean the final part of the equation would be off.
Bahamut.Havelock said: »
If the assumptions are correct 4.65/4.4 is between 5 and 6% increase which is lower than 10%.
I didn't add moonshade(if you have) and Fencer bonus if you /WAR though.
Moonshade should add another 0.03125 for each hit and Fencer add another 0.025 to both hits.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Bahamut.Havelock said: »
If the assumptions are correct 4.65/4.4 is between 5 and 6% increase which is lower than 10%.
Well I was under the impression that the WS dmg+10% ones, didn't actually add +10% WS dmg, but added +10% to the dmg rating of the gun and then calculated the WS dmg using the new D rating. Is this wrong? It always sounded odd to me, that this was how it worked, but I recall hearing that. Which would mean the final part of the equation would be off.
Really? I'm under the impression that WS dmg path adds straight +10% for whatever comes out.
That's what it should do, in theory, but what I said is how it was explained to me. Trying to dig up a source for it atm.
Bahamut.Havelock said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Cerberus.Ezeichiel said: »
How does the ToM tp bonus gun compare to 85 arma on last stand? The damage multiplier on last stand doesn't increase much per 100 tp so it seems the extra base dmg and 10 agi on arma should win.
Hmmm just double checked, even lv 95 arma doesn't beat straight WS dmg+10%. Making WS dmg+10% gun 2nd best last stand gun in this game I guess?
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
It's not base damage. It's +10% damage. He said something ambiguous, so he's not even necessarily wrong.
So....now I'm confused D;
As was I lol. Though perhaps this inquiry will signal a math person to tell us what the real score is! /gets the BG signal
If this is WS damage multiplier than its a good LS gun, if it just inceases based gun DMG by 10% then its worse than TP bonus and Arma 85.
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Bahamut.Havelock said: »
If this is WS damage multiplier than its a good LS gun, if it just inceases based gun DMG by 10% then its worse than TP bonus and Arma 85.
Hence my point and confusion.
Those weapons have this on it "Weapon skill: DMG+10%" not "Weapon skill damage+10%".
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Cerberus.Ezeichiel said: »
I have an Armageddon lol, was just told that the bonus tp gun beats it on last stand, but looking at both guns and the modifier for the ws I was just wondering the validity of that comment.
Why WF 300 TP>last stand though? WF 300 TP makes no difference for WS dmg, and both WS are situational and have their own use.
Odin.Creaucent said: »
Those weapons have this on it "Weapon skill: DMG+10%" not "Weapon skill damage+10%".
Yeah this is true, but it could be read either way. Either way it looks like the TP bonus has a major advantage over the WS:Dmg+10% gun. Looks like TP bonus is the 2nd best LS gun other than maybe Annihilator? But speaking from a strictly corsair side, it looks to be 2nd best.
Anni is the best LS gun since it has dmg:75 or 71 racc+40 ratt+35 or +30 lol. i would say Arma99 is cors best LS gun since it has a lot more dmg and agi+20.
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Anni is the best LS gun since it has dmg:75 or 71 racc+40 ratt+35 or +30 lol. i would say Arma99 is cors best LS gun since it has a lot more dmg and agi+20.
You know what I meant :P. That TP bonus looks like the 2nd best (overall), but the best non empy/mythic choice for cor, and even then it might beat DP for just LS due to the TP bonus function, though I'm not sure on that since DP has 9 more base dmg.
DP gets ratk am too. Odd/odt can't proc on ws, but I suppose the ratk stays?
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
DP gets ratk am too. Odd/odt can't proc on ws, but I suppose the ratk stays?
Good question, and I'm totally not sure of the answer >_<. If one AM doesn't proc on WS it would be safe to assume the other wouldn't though, ya? Worth testing though.
Either way it looks like TP bonus beats at least the 85 Arma, so that's a good place holder gun until you can 90 your Arma, in situations where you aren't WF'ing anyways, no?
The trials are way too annoying for a placeholder imo. I'd stick to Stoertebeker if Arma is still in the works.
Yeah, those TP bonus ones are annoying as piss. I've done quite a few of them lol.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
The trials are way too annoying for a placeholder imo. I'd stick to Stoertebeker if Arma is still in the works.
On that note as well though, is an MAB Erra a decent placeholder gun? I literally made one from start to finish in 2 days in Ule range, and figured it was at least a decent QD piece.
It's good on anything where you can use Leaden Salute(not much since Last Stand inception...), but damage is also decent. That's what I used until I finished my arma.
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Coolio. So I don't really have to invest in a "better" place holder, for once I get off my *** and do my lotto NMs. Worst time sink ever lol. I'd rather solo 20 extra bosse than do the lotto NMs lol.
Its so worth it, i absolutely love my armageddon. The last Akvan i was on even spamming WF i was generating too much hate for the melees to keep it off me was rather fun lol.
Doesn't WF have reduced enmity or some jazz? Idk my sam RIPS akvan to pieces lol.
Yeah though the DD werent that good haha as yeah 3k WF's were pulling hate after around 50-60%. The mnk didnt have a ws set for his vere because he didnt have toci's so he didnt bother making one...
Is there any reason why in Sauromugue Champaign against the Tabar Beak mobs that my slugshot with this set:
(I know its a terrible set, im picking up some alruna's tonight to help slightly)
Was hitting 3.2k whilst my Wildfire, with fire storm and MAB roll, only hit 1.4k with this set?
My Marksmanship skill is only 385 (I know that I need to cap it >_>)
(Last Stand with the slugshot set deat ~2500)
Is there something im missing that made WF hit so low?
(I know its a terrible set, im picking up some alruna's tonight to help slightly)
Was hitting 3.2k whilst my Wildfire, with fire storm and MAB roll, only hit 1.4k with this set?
My Marksmanship skill is only 385 (I know that I need to cap it >_>)
(Last Stand with the slugshot set deat ~2500)
Is there something im missing that made WF hit so low?
Weak to piercing~ but I'm not sure why your wf was that low...
And if I can suggest immediate improvements: elemental belt/gorget for LS and Aluh jambiya(and war sub). While for WF you need Mirke and Karin obi(should always use it with firestorm).
And if I can suggest immediate improvements: elemental belt/gorget for LS and Aluh jambiya(and war sub). While for WF you need Mirke and Karin obi(should always use it with firestorm).
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