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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-05 22:21:19
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Ophannus said: »
Asimilator Shalwar's +12 base dmg during Burst Affinity, is that the same as "Magic Damage+12"? Wouldnt that make it terrible vs Hagondes?

Magical BLU spells have a base damage rating that is calculated by your level. I'm not sure if it is the same calculation as for physical, but it's treated the same way in the spell calculation. I would be absolutely shocked if that base damage +12 is magic damage instead of a direct +12 onto your base magical damage calculation.
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-06 14:18:19
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Gearswap can recognize specific augments (e.g. distinguish MAB hagondes from Fast Cast hagondes), swap gear with menus open (even the equip screen), and can reliably use a precast set for virtually anything and still land you in the correct midcast set, even if like ... quick magic procs.

this is what sold me on it. if you have multiple hagondes pieces and whatnot it'll be very useful, and the rest of the functions (quick magic procs still getting midcast gear, swapping gear even if you accidentally open a menu or something mid action, etc.) are icing on the cake.
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By kenshynofshiva 2014-01-06 15:04:31
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Anyone using blu vs the new AA normal fights? any tips?
 
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-01-06 15:19:12
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Why would you need near-perfect gear for normal difficulty?
 
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By kenshynofshiva 2014-01-06 15:53:04
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Asura.Squishytaru said: »
I felt pretty bad coming blu to AA tt on normal.

Ouch.... Yeah gear pretty sweet but I guess the high stats and evasion must make the suck happen....
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-06 17:41:46
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BLU's power comes not only from raw damage output, but also from helping with damage avoidance. Retinal Glare is an extremely powerful tool. BLU's also got an above average tolerance to damage and can push its HP up higher than most other jobs. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-06 17:58:49
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Asura.Squishytaru said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
BLU's power comes not only from raw damage output, but also from helping with damage avoidance. Retinal Glare is an extremely powerful tool. BLU's also got an above average tolerance to damage and can push its HP up higher than most other jobs. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.

BLU does survive damage well which is a nice plus.

However, I spam retinal glare on difficult SKCNM, and it honestly does not seem to do much of anything. I watch them nail me and others as if it was not even there most of the time, EES lands fine (still kills me, gah..), but I know it helps. :/

If it lifts your evasion off the floor, even slightly, it's helping more than you know.
 
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-01-06 18:53:30
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Sometimes it helps to set a cure spell, I mean we do have them.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-06 19:25:03
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Sometimes it helps to set a cure spell, I mean we do have them.

I always judged the group I was with in relation to how I set my spells and traits. If I was with a mage I trusted, I'd go full DD, but a clutch low tier cure can make all the difference in the world. I generally set at least one or two support spells. An AoE erase is a godsend when you have a mob using an AoE move that adds multiple status effects and damage, at least from the mage's perspective. And that's at the loss of very little from an offensive standpoint.

Honestly, why take a BLU if they aren't going to utilize the strengths that make them more than just a MNK with lower DPS and HP?
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By Ophannus 2014-01-06 20:00:00
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While BLU is a decent DD when played correctly, BLU's strength isn't it's DD but its versatility. That being said, on hard fights like this, if you need a DD, get a pure DD. BLU's gimmicks are it's debuffs and AoE erases otherwise as Jassik said, we're a weaker MNK with a few gimmicks none of which are noteworthy on a fight like this(stuns don't work, no way to erase hate, can't terror, doubtful if def down from benthic/tourb will land. The things that make BLU great such as being able to deal different damage types (Blunt/Slashing/Piercing), self SCing, stuns,terrors,plagues. All are of little consequence in these kinds of fights past Normal.

If BLU had a low-recast hate erase move that shed 20-30% of their hate every time without TP being needed(improved Hydro Shot), BLU could have a niche but until then, we really do just have lower HP and DPS than a MNK and no way to shed hate or contribute much of anything unique.

RNG, THF, DRG, MNK, hell even DNC are all better than BLU. I've seen DNC tank some of em in Hard with full Evasion gear and Mambo with /NIN, they hold hate quite well too and insta cures with Waltzes make better hate than Flash, especially Divine Waltz II, with Enmity/Cure Potency gear, makes a crapload of hate and they can ride Fan Dance during 2hr or 25% rage mode.
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2014-01-07 00:39:30
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Took a few hours, but as far as I tested this should be functional until Sylow posts his (probably vastly superior) lua.

You'll have to adjust all of the gear to match yours. Should be self explanatory.

Swaps in fast cast gear for precast as well as gear for all the important spells (and some unimportant ones), weaponskills, and swaps you into idle/tp sets accordingly. Also detects marches, embrava, etc. and puts you in the right TP set (if you bother setting up separate ones). You can also toggle between various attack, accuracy, and other sets with the following commands:

//gs c toggle TP set
//gs c toggle Idle set
//gs c toggle Req set
//gs c toggle CDC set

There's currently no actual PDT or MDT sets in here, the only DT sets are the idle DT and TP DT sets, mostly because I can't figure out how to make //gs equip commands work via in-game macros.

Added PDT + MDT sets. /console gs equip sets.Utility.PDT and /console gs equip sets.Utility.MDT for macros.

Now to make these for the rest of my jobs. ._.


I was looking at this just for messing around outside of adoulin and noticed that when engaged and after casting blue magic spells, it swapped to idle set
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-07 00:50:51
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change
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function aftercast(spell,act)
    if new == 'Engaged' then
        equip(sets.TP[sets.TP.index[TP_ind]])
    else
        equip(sets.Idle[sets.Idle.index[Idle_ind]])
    end
end


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function aftercast(spell)
    if player.status == 'Engaged' then
        equip(sets.TP[sets.TP.index[TP_ind]])
    else
        equip(sets.Idle[sets.Idle.index[Idle_ind]])
    end
end



PasteBin link to the (fixed) lua: http://pastebin.com/D3PYZidm

will be adding to OP
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By gargurty 2014-01-11 15:22:36
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can someone put up an uptodate xml for blu. Im clueless on how to make one myself and i cant get gearswap to work :) Oh yeh and i cant find any blu xml on pastebin:)
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-01-11 15:57:25
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gargurty said: »
can someone put up an uptodate xml for blu. Im clueless on how to make one myself and i cant get gearswap to work :) Oh yeh and i cant find any blu xml on pastebin:)

You can try mine..

http://www.privatepaste.com/952fd9f2ea

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/ma Poison V <me> - Alters your TP type from Haste - Acc - PDT

/ma Scop's Operetta tougles Earrings depending if you are magic capped

/ma Poisonga V <me> alters you WS type (Generic, Acc or the other one)

/ma Foxfire <me> toggles you Accuracy for TP and WS, with 5 acc settings within, Low, mid, high, Max, Ex ~

Just a heads up, there are some better spell sets and WS sets for CDC available, I just haven;t had chance to really update it.
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By gargurty 2014-01-12 02:55:17
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np i'll give it a try and tweek it where needed :) thanks you :)
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By Fenrir.Shinun 2014-01-12 09:11:19
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For someone coming back into the game Pre Adoulin, what would the friendly gear sets look like for Soloing, and Abyssea Cleaving look like?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-12 09:22:53
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Fenrir.Shinun said: »
For someone coming back into the game Pre Adoulin, what would the friendly gear sets look like for Soloing, and Abyssea Cleaving look like?


Assuming you're basically starting from scratch, there isn't much in the sets on page one that isn't fairly quick/easy to obtain. Some of the more luck based stuff will take a few tries, but it's nothing like old FFXI.

Whisker burning sets are basically, stack as much DEX as you can get in every slot where you don't have a lot of MAB available assuming you are using Burst Affinity. MAB augmented Hagondas is basically an out of the box whisker set. But, with atma and iLVL gear, you could probably get away with wearing just about anything.
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By Treizekordero 2014-01-12 13:02:58
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Has anyone tried BLU/SCH while dual wielding Eminent Wand and Tamaxchi?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-01-12 13:16:57
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Treizekordero said: »
Has anyone tried BLU/SCH while dual wielding Eminent Wand and Tamaxchi?

I saw Doctorugh doing 1100 on Stone 1 doing this..
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By Treizekordero 2014-01-12 13:56:17
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Has anyone tried BLU/SCH while dual wielding Eminent Wand and Tamaxchi?

I saw Doctorugh doing 1100 on Stone 1 doing this..

Yeah I figured nuking as blu/sch with those clubs and hagondes gear would be good.

Just to mess around in WKR, reives, or Besieged or something like that
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2014-01-12 14:46:40
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Treizekordero said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Has anyone tried BLU/SCH while dual wielding Eminent Wand and Tamaxchi?

I saw Doctorugh doing 1100 on Stone 1 doing this..

Yeah I figured nuking as blu/sch with those clubs and hagondes gear would be good.

Just to mess around in WKR, reives, or Besieged or something like that

AND it works wonders using Magic Hammer on mobs that have MP except undead. I've been constantly using Magic Hammer with those two clubs and never ran out of MP, especially in dynamis so that cuts our downtime off significantly
 
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-01-12 15:21:13
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Yeah I've tried it myself, pretty fun lol. Sandspin was doing about 800 or so but stone1 seemed to outdo it lol.
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