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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 21:24:41
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150 VIT at least is probably way too low. Tutu has 175ish for reference.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 21:35:03
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Pushing VIT and AGI up to 250 each lowers avg dmg to 4141 with all buffs/debuffs and removes the need for boost-str
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 21:38:43
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190 to 200 would be my guess but only a pup could find out for sure .

Having gone BLU to Delve bosses your number looks vastly inflated.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 21:42:16
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Likely that it could have more than 1500DEF, or something else. the numbers also ignore DT phases
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 21:46:37
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Toto starts around 2000( Mote estimated 1900 )
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 21:49:20
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Would explain it then, since anything over 3k for Requie relies on capping attack. You can easily see the impact by looking at the numbers with DEF debuffs/buffs removed, particularly angon. 2300DEF 200VIT puts avg Requie at 3421 with all buffs and debuffs, 2309 without box step, 1897 without angon, 1618 with neither.
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By Gimp 2013-07-13 21:59:32
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it may seem pedantic to ask but how much does triumphant roar cut into DOT due to the duration?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 22:01:05
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Triumphant Roar is a positive boost in DPS all the way up to capped delay reduction.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 22:03:10
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HP is a huge issue though .

Also BLU can either DT or TP . If you are going DT every time you take damage on bosses you're pretty much not doing damage so the lack of hybrid options and low HP combine into A beautiful mess.

DEF down is prevalent as well and cocoon does not overwrite it so that is another problem.

If they gave more set points and made defensive spells like Barrier Tusk not have shitty cast times and duration it would vastly improve BLU viability. BLU is good at taking damage and dealing it out, but cannot really handle both simultaneously in this type of fight so you can either turtle up and wonder why you aren't on MNK or say *** it , eat 5m in Panaceas and hope the DPS difference keeps it facing anyone but you!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 22:04:47
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Certainly not trying to say that BLU replaces anything, in case that wasn't clear. Just posting sets and numbers for those who may be interested. I'll be going SAM or MNK to big boss NMs for the foreseeable future.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 22:07:54
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I know you weren't I was just providing information to the inevitable experimentalist in the lurking row.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-13 22:26:55
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find me my last murasamemaru cell pls tnx
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-07-14 16:14:54
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Soooo, first day back after 2 months in hiatus, and I get a Buramenk'ah.
Is it worth buying the 30k plasm sword for offhand right away aswell? Or should I just keep using my STR sword? (40 base dmg is alot..)
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2013-07-14 16:25:49
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If you like BLU, I'd say yes. Get it and with upgrades it smokes STR sword.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-07-16 07:18:07
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With the new STR / DEX wouldn't Buremte Gloves be the best hands for pretty much all our WS's?

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/28050/buremte-gloves

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DEF:53 HP+19 STR+9 DEX+31 VIT+27 AGI+4 INT+11 MND+26 CHR+15 Acc.+20 Ranged Accuracy+20 Evasion+19 Magic Evasion+32 Haste+3% Potency of "Cure" efct. received +13%
LV 99 WAR RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC RUN

31 DEX (23.25 acc) from DEX and another 20 regular acc means you don't need to consider much acc in other slots. 26 MND for req, and still has 9 STR. Hell these might even be the best TP hands if they let you build differently.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-16 11:03:24
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
With the new STR / DEX wouldn't Buremte Gloves be the best hands for pretty much all our WS's?

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/28050/buremte-gloves

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DEF:53 HP+19 STR+9 DEX+31 VIT+27 AGI+4 INT+11 MND+26 CHR+15 Acc.+20 Ranged Accuracy+20 Evasion+19 Magic Evasion+32 Haste+3% Potency of "Cure" efct. received +13%
LV 99 WAR RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC RUN

31 DEX (23.25 acc) from DEX and another 20 regular acc means you don't need to consider much acc in other slots. 26 MND for req, and still has 9 STR. Hell these might even be the best TP hands if they let you build differently.

Combined with the cap just makes me say UNGGGGGGH (UNGGGGGGH)
Na-nah na-nah (na-nah na-nah) those pair are fing insane....
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By tennotsukai87 2013-07-17 11:09:02
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Not sure if others have asked this or not but are there any decent skillchains that can be done with realmrazer? I know of heavy strike...
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-07-17 12:41:32
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Realmrazor is Fusion / Impaction so you just need one that is Fragmentation to make light.

Realmrazer > Sub-zero Smash
Realmrazer > Ram Charge
Realmrazer > Heavy Strike
Realmrazer > Tourbillion

Not really much in the way good skillchains other than HS.
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By Shiva.Shinneh 2013-07-19 11:28:36
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So I've just gotten 5/5 Naakual KI and wondering what to pick, mostly between Tamaxchi or Buremte Gloves. Any idea if Realmrazer with Tamaxchi beats the Delve Club? I don't see myself getting Buramenk'ah anytime soon lol
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-19 13:11:18
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Shiva.Shinneh said: »
So I've just gotten 5/5 Naakual KI and wondering what to pick, mostly between Tamaxchi or Buremte Gloves. Any idea if Realmrazer with Tamaxchi beats the Delve Club? I don't see myself getting Buramenk'ah anytime soon lol


Those gloves are pure sexy and it looks like a ton weapons are getting the new stats so I take the gloves first I took the GA myself because I am a old school war at heart and wont get razor Ixtab is pretty good for me.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-07-19 13:51:04
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Shiva.Shinneh said: »
So I've just gotten 5/5 Naakual KI and wondering what to pick, mostly between Tamaxchi or Buremte Gloves. Any idea if Realmrazer with Tamaxchi beats the Delve Club? I don't see myself getting Buramenk'ah anytime soon lol
Tama's damage is only 88 so I'm sure that'll be a factor.

But since both of those drops are from the tree, you could spam the tree til you get one and then just quest the other. That way you have both with the least effort.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-19 13:55:03
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I took the hat
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By Shiva.Shinneh 2013-07-19 13:57:06
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kenshynofshiva said: »
Those gloves are pure sexy and it looks like a ton weapons are getting the new stats so I take the gloves first I took the GA myself because I am a old school war at heart and wont get razor Ixtab is pretty good for me.

Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Tama's damage is only 88 so I'm sure that'll be a factor.

But since both of those drops are from the tree, you could spam the tree til you get one and then just quest the other. That way you have both with the least effort.

This is true, won't take long to get dat bayld! Went with the gloves for now, Thanks guys :)

EDIT: Thankfully got the cap when trying to get the KI, otherwise I would of picked that first.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-19 14:03:36
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Shiva.Shinneh said: »
kenshynofshiva said: »
Those gloves are pure sexy and it looks like a ton weapons are getting the new stats so I take the gloves first I took the GA myself because I am a old school war at heart and wont get razor Ixtab is pretty good for me.

Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Tama's damage is only 88 so I'm sure that'll be a factor.

But since both of those drops are from the tree, you could spam the tree til you get one and then just quest the other. That way you have both with the least effort.

This is true, won't take long to get dat bayld! Went with the gloves for now, Thanks guys :)

EDIT: Thankfully got the cap when trying to get the KI, otherwise I would of picked that first.

sweet congrats those 2 together are insane talk about sweet *** requiescats and hell most any spell lol.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-21 16:53:39
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Updated Adoulin sets and gave them an even more stupid name than ever before


note that I forgot to add, you can wear windbuffet belt over twilight if you have ionis on.
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By Moozie 2013-07-26 09:10:28
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ok maybe this is a dumb question, but does anyone on the test server have any idea how blue magic will be influenced by the new stats on the weapons?

I have the delve sword and club, and I have looked at the stats on the new weapons and stuff, and they look great. I just don't understand how those stats, specifically sword skill and club skill affect blu magic.

I could have sworn I saw a post from Matsui saying that only the new WK club taxwhatever would affect blu magic until next update august 6th. I just don't understand how, it has club skill and mnd, and most spells don't have mind as a modifier, at least not the ones I normally use.

If anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-26 09:39:06
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So is the Mondaha cudgel really that good in mainhand? Guess it ends up being realm vs req

Halachuinic Sword
DMG:104 Delay:228
Accuracy+6 Attack+5
Sword skill+162 Parrying skill+162

Mondaha Cudgel
DMG:130 Delay:340
MP+30 INT+5 MND+10
Accuracy+18 Magic Accuracy+58
Club skill+153 Parrying skill+153

Guess the question is should I drop 30k on the club next? I have the Hal. Sword.
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By Sylph.Chocobro 2013-07-26 10:24:27
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Moozie said: »
ok maybe this is a dumb question, but does anyone on the test server have any idea how blue magic will be influenced by the new stats on the weapons?

I have the delve sword and club, and I have looked at the stats on the new weapons and stuff, and they look great. I just don't understand how those stats, specifically sword skill and club skill affect blu magic.

I could have sworn I saw a post from Matsui saying that only the new WK club taxwhatever would affect blu magic until next update august 6th. I just don't understand how, it has club skill and mnd, and most spells don't have mind as a modifier, at least not the ones I normally use.

If anyone can help me I would appreciate it.

I'm pretty sure it's the combat skill on your main hand weapon that affect your physical blue spells. I'm using a Tamaxchi at the moment and it gives a pretty good boost to the damage of those spells, as well as accuracy.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-26 11:19:34
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Sylph.Chocobro said: »
Moozie said: »
ok maybe this is a dumb question, but does anyone on the test server have any idea how blue magic will be influenced by the new stats on the weapons?

I have the delve sword and club, and I have looked at the stats on the new weapons and stuff, and they look great. I just don't understand how those stats, specifically sword skill and club skill affect blu magic.

I could have sworn I saw a post from Matsui saying that only the new WK club taxwhatever would affect blu magic until next update august 6th. I just don't understand how, it has club skill and mnd, and most spells don't have mind as a modifier, at least not the ones I normally use.

If anyone can help me I would appreciate it.

I'm pretty sure it's the combat skill on your main hand weapon that affect your physical blue spells. I'm using a Tamaxchi at the moment and it gives a pretty good boost to the damage of those spells, as well as accuracy.

Yeah it is the combat skill and all weapons above ilevel 100 will get the change on Aug 6th...
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-07-26 22:25:35
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kenshynofshiva said: »
So is the Mondaha cudgel really that good in mainhand? Guess it ends up being realm vs req

Halachuinic Sword
DMG:104 Delay:228
Accuracy+6 Attack+5
Sword skill+162 Parrying skill+162

Mondaha Cudgel
DMG:130 Delay:340
MP+30 INT+5 MND+10
Accuracy+18 Magic Accuracy+58
Club skill+153 Parrying skill+153

Guess the question is should I drop 30k on the club next? I have the Hal. Sword.

The goal should be the delve mb sword. Otherwise Club and realm is good damage when ur not superbuffed. Only issue I have with realm is its 8 hits. Nature of percentages means ur gonna be missing a hit or two quite often. It also precludes MA from procing
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