The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

I'm asking what damage others get with those spells on the Orc Ambuscade. That is why I didn't post anything about me. I am looking for info on what others are doing numbers wise.

Thought I saved some screenshots, but I guess not. Been a while, but my damage was around ~50k with Idris Malaise.

Quoting so this question doesn't get lost, I'd also like to know. Also a real PITA that you need 3 people to enter.

New to BLU, starting to get some decent items and unsure how to best put them to use. I have a Naegling, Maxentius and a physical dps well augmented colada. As far as tp gain and physical ws dmg, naeglin/colada is my best option right?

naegling/maxentius for when you're meleeing and nuking (salvage, einherjar etc).

colada makes a good offhand for pure melee and don't neglect thiburon for tp bonus when acc is good.

Yes, but I'd suggest running Alluvion Skirmish instead if you mean the elementals. You can even learn some moves from the bosses.

CDC is dead imo. Run Naegling/Colada yeah, but I'd advise you work on a Thibron (at least to the point of TP Bonus +1000; ending here: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Trial_2361) and use it whenever you can. Once you're geared well and/or have buffs, you can full-time it even in high-end content. Also works for Tizona if you're going that route. I'd only offhand Maxentius if it's somehow more acc than your Colada or need some extra MAB etc you get from it.

cdc isn't dead when you want to skillchain

Sure, but that's about as pedantic as saying "BLU can use Red Lotus Blade to open Fusion." It really is that far off vs a proper SB build, never mind Tizona, when paired with Thibron. SCing is considered niche for the large part.
Please don't respond with more niche times you'd use CDC. We know when to use CDC. But it's not "when you can also use SB."

Sounds like it's not dead then.

I meant the three Vagary boss spells: Cruel Joke, Cesspool, and Tearing Gust - since those are some of the most annoying spells to farm solo (as they primarily come from a 3 person minimum event). And to be sure: the question is in reference to the boss-only versions of Vagary (the ones they added to make Empy unlocks easier). I seem to have some recollection that when that was added, people said they couldn't be used to learn BLU spells. But I can't seem to track down any evidence at this point.

Didn't realize you could learn Cruel Joke from the Yorcia Alluvion Skirmish Balamor though, so that's nice to have SOME other option I guess - particularly since you don't need 3 people to enter skirmishes. Since there are no Plovid or Macuil in Skirmish to learn the other two spells from, that's not a viable method for those two. But that does take a lot longer to deal with Skirmish in the hopes that a Balamor will pop, versus just spamming the Vagary boss-only runs until you get the spell.

I can confirm you can learn spells from the vagary boss fights. Learned the last one there and it was tearing gust. I dont know how to post a pic here else i would if peeps want evidence :)

When would you even use those Vagary boss spells and is Analric +1 still BIS solo nuke cleaving? I just upgraded from nq and it should be a massive boost with the +50 mab (I think). Just doesn’t “feel” massively different from before. Also what are people nuking in weapon wise? I’ve been using R15 Tizona and Raja rod. I could get Maxentimus or whatever just didn’t know if it was worth it.

Max/Kaja rod is the best combo for nuking, shouldn't be using Tizona at all. Even an augmented nibiru cudgel would be better until you can get both ambu clubs done. Also yes, the almaric is still the best set.

Since we're on the topic of nuking, opinions on Jhakri+2 legs vs Relic+3?

Relic has +15 mab, higher stats minus INT.
Jhakri has +12 INT, lower stats.

The spells I use on BLU are Entomb, Spectral Floe, Tenebral Crush, Anvil Lightning, Subduction.
For some of these Relic+3 should be better, but for stuff like Spectral Flow I dunno... I'm still leaning towards Relic though if anything for the better defensive stats.

So, more opinions please?

relic, easily

I tested on Ceizak mandies for subduction only and Relic beat Jhakri. I am going to assume its from the VIT and MAB combined. So always just look at the spell you want to cast and its modifiers. The metamorph testing showing heavy INT to outweigh MAB on basically all spells had me curious to test.

Yeah if I recall Spectral Floe is 80% INT, Jhakri might win there but I'm still leaning towards Relic because of the defensive stats.

May I ask why you are nuking in either one? Almaric +1 blows both of them out of the water.

Maybe a macc set to garantee status effect.

i wouldn't go full almaric +1 for AoEing. fooder will mostly die in one shot and on more dangerous targets like dyna D or apex cleaving the extra macc of jhakri set becomes more valuable cause you want the spell effects to land.

Because I have them both and Amalric costs gil + inventory space.

i feel like a complete moron for asking this, but my calculations (which are notorius for being wrong) is that with capped gear haste and erratic flutter, and DW trait, i would only need 6% gear DW? Is this correct or am i totaly flunking?
DW 3 from triats/spell set

Dw 3 needs 11. Dw 4 needs 6

Thank you very much!
I have Delta thrust + Barbed Crescent at 1200+.
The way i read it, thats DW3.. Hmm

Has anyone compared Zoar Subligar +1 (R15) vs Samnuha Tights (Max) for TP sets?

That's DW3 yup.

With capped gear haste and erratic flutter(no other magic haste) you need 31/32% DW on gear to cap delay

if you throw Might Guard in there(flutter + MG = capped magic haste) you only need 11 DW from gear.

The formula for working it out goes something like:
( 1 - DW% )×( 1024 - equiphaste - magichaste - JAHaste )÷1024 =
and you want it to = 0.2 for capped delay reduction

using your question as an example that'd be:
( 1 - 0.25 )×( 1024 - 256 - 307 )÷1024 = 0.34 (no DW from gear)
( 1 - (0.25+0.32) )×( 1024 - 256 - 307 )÷1024 = 0.19 (32 DW from gear)

256 being capped gear haste and 307 being erratic flutter

Its 3 TA, 5 DA, -5 stp, and 5 crit rate vs 3 TA 3 DA and 7 stp. Its not even close.

Yeah its basically 2%da vs 12 store tp. If you would add another 5%da and 3%ta then maybe it would be close. Probably only for non AM3 set tho.

Is Lugra Earring +1 (r15) worth making for Expiacion? or is it just for night time WSs?

if you're BLU lugra is not for you because #BLUcan'thavenicethings.