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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
By Gimp 2013-03-26 13:34:23
Valefor.Vengeances said: »sigh its sooo sad. I read this entire thread, and while all numbers highlight points to all your amazing knowledge of stats and how blue mage as a job class functions, and also to what a blue mage is capable of....
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
At what function?
Please feel free to post a parse to show your *** size or whatever
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-03-26 19:24:43
Naw, post an actual *** picture. I want the real thing, not a representation of it.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-26 19:45:43
Valefor.Vengeances said: »sigh its sooo sad. I read this entire thread, and while all numbers highlight points to all your amazing knowledge of stats and how blue mage as a job class functions, and also to what a blue mage is capable of....
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
At what function?
Please feel free to post a parse to show your *** size or whatever
You want to argue mechanic's of BLUE MAGE vs a Mob, a Player, under what effects? On what Strats, in what zones?!?
You could beat everyone one of us at everything? WOW big claim there little man. Its all good cos I battered these 12 lads single handedly while dressed as a ballarina in a kilt wearing clown make-up.
And they all had machette's and 1 had a crooked eye.
Cool Story Bro!
I don't need to tell you how good I am. I get stuff done, with minimal effort, without upsetting people and help those I can. I personally feel thats a better use of my time than saying I can hit harder than someone else hitting "ctrl + 1" on a keyboard somewhere in the us..........
By Tickmeoff 2013-03-26 19:47:58
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-26 19:48:15
Guys just ignore him, that's what I'm doing. If he was such a big deal I'd have known who he was before he came and shat up my thread. Find solace in the fact that he's a nobody.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-26 19:54:59
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin. IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins.
May I suggest you look at the intent of the spell and stop trying to spam it at targets you have no business casting on? Do you also gear lots of Macc when you nuke fire on Cerberus?
Also, it was a question, I use Jubbah, are you always rude to people who ask questions?
edit: are there any solid numbers on the acc penalty? all my math assumes dyna dc where -40 to -60 acc is of little relevance. i see lots of different penalties quoted.
Only when I'm sober. The point is if you had googled Heavy Strike, or looked on BGwiki you could have answered your question about Heavy Strike acc penalty, and made an informed decision rather than make a decision on speculation.
But the point asside, it was rather rude of me so consider this an apology.
I personally use Jubbah +1 on majority of things for HS, as I typically don't cast it on T+ targets.
The only concern for this spell is what level your target is, and their evasion. Majority of content in game is level 85 so this spell performs well in most areas.
In Aldoulin where content is supposed to be geared for 99 I would use Toci's.
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2013-03-26 19:57:46
So, in regards to that new D72 sword. I know that it doesn't beat Almace but what about as an off hand in place of STR Shikargar? Does the +11 damage make up for the -3 STR and -22 Attack?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-26 20:00:04
it's a sword that probably won't be wearable by BLU, beyond that it would be an interesting option in some circumstances but would not completely replace fire shikargar
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-26 22:06:19
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin. IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins.
May I suggest you look at the intent of the spell and stop trying to spam it at targets you have no business casting on? Do you also gear lots of Macc when you nuke fire on Cerberus?
Also, it was a question, I use Jubbah, are you always rude to people who ask questions?
edit: are there any solid numbers on the acc penalty? all my math assumes dyna dc where -40 to -60 acc is of little relevance. i see lots of different penalties quoted.
Only when I'm sober. The point is if you had googled Heavy Strike, or looked on BGwiki you could have answered your question about Heavy Strike acc penalty, and made an informed decision rather than make a decision on speculation.
But the point asside, it was rather rude of me so consider this an apology.
I personally use Jubbah +1 on majority of things for HS, as I typically don't cast it on T+ targets.
The only concern for this spell is what level your target is, and their evasion. Majority of content in game is level 85 so this spell performs well in most areas.
In Aldoulin where content is supposed to be geared for 99 I would use Toci's.
go check the listed acc penalty from the common sources, neither say 100. I honestly never have any real acc issues with it using jubbah, i use loki's in abby because i don't have athos still.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-26 22:41:41
Most of the common source's obscure spell details come from me to begin with (bg lists my number, 80 to 100 and I'm not the only one who has done the tests). It's between 80 and 100, I don't have the patience to narrow it down any further than that. 40~60 isn't in the same ballpark
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-27 00:31:39
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Most of the common source's obscure spell details come from me to begin with (bg lists my number, 80 to 100 and I'm not the only one who has done the tests). It's between 80 and 100, I don't have the patience to narrow it down any further than that. 40~60 isn't in the same ballpark
Wiki has been changed to "AT LEAST" 60 somewhat recently, it has been a while since I looked up any info on spells. Most definately changes the way I'd gear it, though I really never have accuracy issues.
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By Cerberus.Zyph 2013-03-27 12:04:13
Looking forward to the update with all the new Adoulin gear taken into consideration!
This guide is awesome!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-27 12:16:36
there isn't much to consider unfortunately. couple pieces here and there are sidegrades, and may have to add a sword or two
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-03-27 13:40:58
Uh... so BLU is now on Nares (in addition to Thaumas) set?
Incoming emergency maint?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-27 13:42:31
Valefor.Prothescar said: »it's a sword that probably won't be wearable by BLU, beyond that it would be an interesting option in some circumstances but would not completely replace fire shikargar
Blu CAN use it, so what's the math behind it? Any chance I can get out of finally grinding my STR sword? lol
By amadis 2013-03-27 13:52:56
I'm hoping the dual wield on this doesent make my 40mil spent on khepri bonnet a waste
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-27 13:54:09
I'm hoping the dual wield on this doesent make my 40mil spent on khepri bonnet a waste
Well it already has more str/dex. So at the very least it's a sick WS piece, no?
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-03-27 13:55:59
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Uh... so BLU is now on Nares (in addition to Thaumas) set?
Incoming emergency maint?
Is this true or a joke>
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-03-27 13:57:45
BLU isn't on Nares Cap (Only piece of Nares I have), but it has been mistakenly added to Rubeus Feet.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2013-03-27 13:58:57
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Uh... so BLU is now on Nares (in addition to Thaumas) set?
Incoming emergency maint?
Yeah, BRD is now missing from Nares so there you go.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-03-27 14:00:40
Haha, BRD is also missing from Rubeus Feet, but it's just the feet because the other pieces are as they've always been.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-03-27 14:01:53
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Uh... so BLU is now on Nares (in addition to Thaumas) set?
Incoming emergency maint?
Yeah, BRD is now missing from Nares so there you go.
hey pup got a new H3H WS. We get Narse set. Oh I am in love! As I have the set for my sch. Time to Sblade, CW and other spells!!!!
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-03-27 14:10:39
Weird...
Is it just a typo if I can wear the full set other than the hat?
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By Phoenix.Xax 2013-03-27 14:13:06
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »Weird...
Is it just a typo if I can wear the full set other than the hat?
I was just about to say i wanted to see a ss of the pieces and rubeous XD
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-03-27 14:18:41
I don't wanna upload another ss but I can wear my rubeous boots.
However... Brd I hear, cannot wear Nares now aside from the head so sadly it does seem like it was a mistake. I'll test as soon as I can get my alt on.
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By Lakshmi.Ezekieal 2013-03-27 15:33:48
Did we get any new spells with the expansion?
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-03-27 15:53:11
I'm sure we will at some point but I don't recall seeing any yet. They generally wait a while before they add them.
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-03-27 17:14:32
I was comparing my old TP set with some new items added in BLU DPS spreadsheet, especially Thurandaut Chapeau. If that DW is 5%, or even 3%, then it blows away my current TP set:
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With this new TP set
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-03-27 17:32:15
Well I just got back from work. I don't know what's going on at all in the game right now. Please tell me BLU became a god. There's so much I'm trying to read, but nothing mentions BLU specifically.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-03-27 18:09:33
Well I just got back from work. I don't know what's going on at all in the game right now. Please tell me BLU became a god. There's so much I'm trying to read, but nothing mentions BLU specifically. BLU is already the best job anyway. :3
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