Cerberus.Maxiel said: »
Oh, I thought Saline Coat was a "Shell" effect. My set up is I dual box a whm/sch and I have a thf friend.
No. Saline is a very high MDB but it does stack with shell.
The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage
The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
No. Saline is a very high MDB but it does stack with shell.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I gotta use AZ? Can't be done without it? When should that be used? In air, for benthic > quad to bring it down?
Thx for the info so far. I did see your video Dray, but it doesn't show like all your gear/spells and ***, though it is helpful.
Thx for the info so far. I did see your video Dray, but it doesn't show like all your gear/spells and ***, though it is helpful.
you don't need your 1hr /rdm is enough. 1hr makes it faster and makes sure you don't run out of mp when you're trying tp get him out of the air.
Surviving the terror episodes was the worst of it which is what the hybrid evasion helped a lot with
There really isn't any reason to have blood/crimson mail anymore for blue is it?
Besides the breath damage taken and using it for breath builds itself I don't see much of a reason to hq the abj.
Besides the breath damage taken and using it for breath builds itself I don't see much of a reason to hq the abj.
not really. still good for SB with a good STR augment but there's a lot of better options available now
Was wondering if someone could post a gear set for A. Spikes and Quad.Continumm, Or should I just stick with the STR set Prothescar posted. Also inventory is not an issue anymore. Thanks
Odin.Arkista said: »
Was wondering if someone could post a gear set for A. Spikes and Quad.Continumm, Or should I just stick with the STR set Prothescar posted. Also inventory is not an issue anymore. Thanks
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Amorphic Spikes <head>Magavan beret</head> <neck>Ire Torque +1</neck> <lear>Triumph earring</lear> <rear>Triumph earring</rear> <body>Toci's harness</body> <hands>Athos's gloves</hands> <rring>Rajas ring</rring> <lring>Spiral Ring</lring> <back>Zaffre Cape</back> <waist>Cuchulain's belt</waist> <legs>Mavi Tayt +2</legs> <feet>Kacura leggings +1</feet> <ammo>Mavi Tathlum</ammo> Q. Continuum (also Delta Thrust) <head>Mirage keffiyeh +2</head> <neck>Ire Torque +1</neck> <lear>Triumph earring</lear> <rear>Triumph earring</rear> <body>Dux scale mail</body> <hands>Athos's gloves</hands> <rring>Pyrosoul ring</rring> <lring>Spiral ring</lring> <back>Zaffre Cape</back> <waist>Caudata belt</waist> <legs>Mavi tayt +2</legs> <feet>Kacura leggings +1</feet> <ammo>Mavi tathlum</ammo>
Isn't the skill on AF body better than Toci's?
Asura.Calatilla said: »
Isn't the skill on AF body better than Toci's?
In Zaffre Cape's case, I just don't have the space for more back pieces <_<
I just did the math for it and AF+1 body is better for amorphic spikes. Not sure about dux though; it might be better for QC. I never even considered it despite owning one for my RNG.
Thanks guys. Is heavy Stike Mag acc or Phy Acc?
heavy strike is reliant on physical acc, dex, physical potency merits, and main hand skill to land sucessfully
short answer physical accuracy but in case you wanted to know
short answer physical accuracy but in case you wanted to know
Thanks
I personally use Maggus Jubbah +1 for both. I only use Toci's for Heavy stike.
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
I personally use Maggus Jubbah +1 for both. I only use Toci's for Heavy stike.
Why would you not use Loki's/Athos's for Heavy Strike, its a one hit forced critical. No matter how I math it out, 5% crit damage on those bodies beats the STR on Toci's unless Jubbah puts you up a tier, then it beats Toci's too.
Toci's is used in Heavy Strike sets for the accuracy. Same with Nematona Cap.
Odin.Jassik said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
I personally use Maggus Jubbah +1 for both. I only use Toci's for Heavy stike.
Why would you not use Loki's/Athos's for Heavy Strike, its a one hit forced critical. No matter how I math it out, 5% crit damage on those bodies beats the STR on Toci's unless Jubbah puts you up a tier, then it beats Toci's too.
I've not mathed it out to be sure what is better in various situations or anything but just wanted to point out that Jubbah is 15 skill, how can it NOT put you up a tier? Hell it may put you up two.
Jubbah should put you up more than 1 tier.. Heavy Strike is low on Accuracy, I honestly Don't care about the 5% DMG from Loki's I would rather not see "your heavy strike fails to take effect" and use a Toci's.
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin.
IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins. But then you are also Chuck Norris.
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin.
IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins. But then you are also Chuck Norris.
No CA/Eff
Jubbah+1: 731
Toci: 723
Athos: 720
CA
Jubbah+1: 1279
Toci: 1276
Athos: 1265
EFF
Jubbah+1: 1316
Toci: 1288
Athos: 1295
CA+EFF:
Jubbah+1: 1911
Toci: 1891
Athos: 1889
Basically use Toci's or Jubbah. Athos is bad
Jubbah+1: 731
Toci: 723
Athos: 720
CA
Jubbah+1: 1279
Toci: 1276
Athos: 1265
EFF
Jubbah+1: 1316
Toci: 1288
Athos: 1295
CA+EFF:
Jubbah+1: 1911
Toci: 1891
Athos: 1889
Basically use Toci's or Jubbah. Athos is bad
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What would perform better in aby, Sanguine or Vorpal?
Vorpal~
You'd also sacrifice white damage just to put sanguine on equal footing unfortunately, always go with sanguine when you're brewing though!
You'd also sacrifice white damage just to put sanguine on equal footing unfortunately, always go with sanguine when you're brewing though!
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin. IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins.
May I suggest you look at the intent of the spell and stop trying to spam it at targets you have no business casting on? Do you also gear lots of Macc when you nuke fire on Cerberus?
Also, it was a question, I use Jubbah, are you always rude to people who ask questions?
edit: are there any solid numbers on the acc penalty? all my math assumes dyna dc where -40 to -60 acc is of little relevance. i see lots of different penalties quoted.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Thurandaut Chapeau
Def 35 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy +10
Dual Wield Up
Thurandaut Tabard
Def 64 STR+17 AGI+17 Attack +15
Haste +5%
Thurandaut Gloves
Def 29 Dex+14 Agi +14 Accuracy +10
Haste +3%
Thruandaut Tights
Def 48 AGI+17 Ranged Accuracy +17 Enmity -5
Thurandaut Boots
Def 27 Vit+14 Mnd+14
Haste +3% Physical damage taken -3%/
Odin.Jassik said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin. IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins.
May I suggest you look at the intent of the spell and stop trying to spam it at targets you have no business casting on? Do you also gear lots of Macc when you nuke fire on Cerberus?
Also, it was a question, I use Jubbah, are you always rude to people who ask questions?
edit: are there any solid numbers on the acc penalty? all my math assumes dyna dc where -40 to -60 acc is of little relevance. i see lots of different penalties quoted.
Proth has it as -100 in his guild.
Also; looking at some of that new gear, the head looks great for heavy strike and str/dex spells.
There's nice Agi pieces for benthic too.
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Jassik May I suggest reading what you type, thinking, then scrapping it because it's gibberish to begin. IF you dont have an issue with -100 acc, then yes Loki/Athos wins.
May I suggest you look at the intent of the spell and stop trying to spam it at targets you have no business casting on? Do you also gear lots of Macc when you nuke fire on Cerberus?
Also, it was a question, I use Jubbah, are you always rude to people who ask questions?
edit: are there any solid numbers on the acc penalty? all my math assumes dyna dc where -40 to -60 acc is of little relevance. i see lots of different penalties quoted.
Proth has it as -100 in his guild.
Also; looking at some of that new gear, the head looks great for heavy strike and str/dex spells.
There's nice Agi pieces for benthic too.
if its that high toci's makes more sense
if the dw on that hat is significant it could replace ocelomeh for tp as well
sigh its sooo sad. I read this entire thread, and while all numbers highlight points to all your amazing knowledge of stats and how blue mage as a job class functions, and also to what a blue mage is capable of....
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
Head - spells
Body - benthic typhoon, tp if no thaumas/toci
Gloves - CDC if no myrmex or thaumas, benthic typhoon
Legs - Benthic typhoon (prolly worse than mavi, cba to math)
Feet - PDT, fruit/embrace
Body - benthic typhoon, tp if no thaumas/toci
Gloves - CDC if no myrmex or thaumas, benthic typhoon
Legs - Benthic typhoon (prolly worse than mavi, cba to math)
Feet - PDT, fruit/embrace
Valefor.Vengeances said: »
sigh its sooo sad. I read this entire thread, and while all numbers highlight points to all your amazing knowledge of stats and how blue mage as a job class functions, and also to what a blue mage is capable of....
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
um..lol?
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
Valefor.Vengeances said: »
sigh its sooo sad. I read this entire thread, and while all numbers highlight points to all your amazing knowledge of stats and how blue mage as a job class functions, and also to what a blue mage is capable of....
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
.... i would be willing to wager that of everyone on this thread thus far, none of you could actually beat me.
Sigh.
um..lol?
His profile picture is a Naruto character. I think you know to ignore it.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
What would perform better in aby, Sanguine or Vorpal?
In what context? Keep in mind that you're rarely using vorpal because you're wanting to tie your ws of choice with your CA spell unless it's down and used to knowing how long it takes for you to reach 100 and not miss when your CA cooldown is up. Granted it's a bit of a more moot point now because of how our gear upgrades and subjob selections have gotten progressively better over the years but keep that in mind.
Sanguine is more of a brewing function, amber farm, and "emergency" cure if you need it
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