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By Blazed1979 2016-07-08 18:21:58
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2) for non CDC WSs would WDS or DA+ be better?


Thanks for the help.

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Str acc / attack weapon skill damage for savage blade, req, expac.
Dex acc / attack critical for CdC
Dex acc / attack store T P for melee
 
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By Boshi 2016-07-09 09:23:00
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Blazed1979 said: »
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2) for non CDC WSs would WDS or DA+

iambatman3131 said: »
Str acc / attack weapon skill damage for savage blade, req, expac.
Dex acc / attack critical for CdC
Dex acc / attack store T P for melee
Blazed1979 said: »
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2) for non CDC WSs would WDS or DA+ be better?


Thanks for the help.

Your question was answered in the previous page:

iambatman3131 said: »
Str acc / attack weapon skill damage for savage blade, req, expac.
Dex acc / attack critical for CdC
Dex acc / attack store T P for melee

For req it would be mnd/aa/da
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By Selindrile 2016-07-11 12:21:54
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Best melee clubs still Skirmish ones? I literally just tossed them and the new ambuscade makes blunt damage somewhat relevant, heh.
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-07-11 12:54:11
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Selindrile said: »
Best melee clubs still Skirmish ones? I literally just tossed them and the new ambuscade makes blunt damage somewhat relevant, heh.

There are plenty of other options. I would say don't worry about just for ambuscade. Even the gimpest 119 club would own that cockatrice with Judgment or Realmrazer.

Blurred Mace seems to be the closest otherwise.
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By Selindrile 2016-07-11 13:36:27
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Yeah, I use Nibiru and it's fine, but, still feels bleh to use them as melee clubs lol.
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By Asura.Toralin 2016-07-12 07:31:21
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Noob question probably already answered 100x but... +5 Phalanx on Herc head, does that work with Barrier Tusk?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-12 09:54:28
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2016-07-12 10:02:21
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Since this is a frequent problem, here you go:

Absolutely Necessary
Absolutely Necessary Trait Spells

Cocoon
Sickle Slash
Blank Gaze
Tail Slap
Magic Fruit
Acrid Stream
Yawn
Animating Wail
Saline Coat
Blazing Bound
Magic Hammer
Quad. Continuum
Regeneration
Fantod
Battery Charge
Empty Thrash
Magic Barrier
Delta Thrust
Whirl of Rage
Mortal Ray
Dream Flower
Heavy Strike
Occultation
Barbed Crescent
Winds of Promy.
Thrashing Assault
Barrier Tusk
Diffusion Ray
White Wind
Molting Plumage
Sudden Lunge
Nat. Meditation
Glutinous Dart
Retinal Glare
Carcharian Verve
Erratic Flutter
Subduction
Sinker Drill
Sweeping Gouge
Searing Tempest
Blinding Fulgor
Spectral Floe
Scouring Spate
Anvil Lightning
Silent Storm
Entomb
Tenebral Crush
Mighty Guard


Nice to Have[/u]
Nice to Have Trait Spells


Sheep Song
Battle Dance
MP Drainkiss
Sound Blast
Frightful Roar
Uppercut
Memento Mori
Frenetic Rip
Infrasonics
Spinal Cleave
Zephyr Mantle
Disseverment
Diamondhide
Goblin Rush
Amplification
Vanity Dive
Temporal Shift
Evryone. Grudge
Actinic Burst
Quadrastrike
Benthic Typhoon
Paralyzing Triad
Thermal Pulse
Palling Salvo
Charged Whisker
Reaving Wind
Thunderbolt
Embalming Earth
Restoral


Anyone know if this is still relevant/accurate?

Trying to compile a list of all the spells I should be hunting now that I am getting a little more settled into current day BLU.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-12 10:57:06
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Can move 2 tiers of DW spells (specifically Animating Wail, Mortal Ray, Quad. Continuum, and Blazing Bound) down from "absolutely necessary traits" to "nice to have traits". Actually you can knock two of those spells off the list entirely once you get JTB2 (probably the first two I listed) since setting all of them would give DW6 but there's only 5 tiers to the trait. Add Saurian Slide to "nice to have", maybe Plenilune Embrace as well, and I'd probably knock Restoral off the list. Move Charged Whisker over to nice traits, add Amorphic Spikes in the same category (also a nice INT boost while nuking), add Water Bomb and Regurgitation to nice to have, add Rail Cannon somewhere in there. There are probably a few others, but that's what I see at first glance.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-07-12 11:11:17
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ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY spells:
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-12 11:16:42
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Each spell has its uses , even at lvl 99.
False.
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By Odin.Brocovich 2016-07-12 11:19:52
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY spells:
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-12 13:48:48
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Informal poll:

When you think of your typical time to WS, do you usually include or exclude the two second delay from a possible prior WS?

edit: on second thought, nevermind. There's already a field that shows cycle time on the setup page, it'd make the most sense to stay in line with that.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2016-07-12 14:13:25
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Upgrades that retain value:
-Assimilator's Jubbah +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Keffiyeh +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Bazubands: Azure Lore duration bonus, not necessary to +1
-Luhlaza Charuqs +1: Diffusion duration bonus, blue magic skill
-Hashishin Bazubands +1: blue magic -recast
-Hashishin Tayt +1: blue magic skilll

Nightfyre is right on with the reforge assessment, no issues there. But maybe this is a good place to reinforce a point that some people seem to need a reminder on...

Of all the BLU JSE armor, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD bring your relic shoes for Diffusion+MG duration. The duration bonus (5% per merit, and yes you NEED 5/5 Diffusion merits) works on lv90 relic+2, 109 or 119, so reforging to +1 isn't imperative for the buff duration, but you NEED to use these with Diffusion. Drives me crazy when I see 3min MGs from random BLUs.
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2016-07-12 14:27:12
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Upgrades that retain value:
-Assimilator's Jubbah +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Keffiyeh +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Bazubands: Azure Lore duration bonus, not necessary to +1
-Luhlaza Charuqs +1: Diffusion duration bonus, blue magic skill
-Hashishin Bazubands +1: blue magic -recast
-Hashishin Tayt +1: blue magic skilll

Nightfyre is right on with the reforge assessment, no issues there. But maybe this is a good place to reinforce a point that some people seem to need a reminder on...

Of all the BLU JSE armor, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD bring your relic shoes for Diffusion+MG duration. The duration bonus (5% per merit, and yes you NEED 5/5 Diffusion merits) works on lv90 relic+2, 109 or 119, so reforging to +1 isn't imperative for the buff duration, but you NEED to use these with Diffusion. Drives me crazy when I see 3min MGs from random BLUs.


I've seen conflicting reports on this...do you need to +1 the Luhlaza Charuqs to get the full diffusion bonus or is the NQ enough?

Edit: I learned to read after I posted this...never mind xD

I have the feet close to the top of my list of pieces to reforge first.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-12 15:18:05
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Most or all of the relic +2 aug and relic reforge duration bonuses do not change as you upgrade the gear afaik. +1 feet are for the extra skill, so 109 is more of a priority there. The most important 119s are af body and empyrean hands/feet, maybe empyrean feet as well since most here will use those for a long time/forever.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2016-07-12 15:36:19
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Well, if people are feeling ambitious and have a lot of gil to spend. Can hit 600 skill now without Seekers ring, or Iris lol.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-12 15:59:08
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Edit: nevermind, I can't count. 600 exactly if you have 2x hq rings and the ASA augmented earrings, I thought it was 598. You lose a lot of fast cast in the process, but it's a thing. Can also trade in Cornflower for 2x hq rings and a FC Rosmerta's in a 550 set.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2016-07-12 16:17:10
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Yeah, that is a lofty goal lol
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-12 16:43:02
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I'd at least consider a 600 skill Occultation if you have Valiance Fast Cast up.
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By Asura.Sabishii 2016-07-12 18:44:27
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Upgrades that retain value:
-Assimilator's Jubbah +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Keffiyeh +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Bazubands: Azure Lore duration bonus, not necessary to +1
-Luhlaza Charuqs +1: Diffusion duration bonus, blue magic skill
-Hashishin Bazubands +1: blue magic -recast
-Hashishin Tayt +1: blue magic skilll

Nightfyre is right on with the reforge assessment, no issues there. But maybe this is a good place to reinforce a point that some people seem to need a reminder on...

Of all the BLU JSE armor, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD bring your relic shoes for Diffusion+MG duration. The duration bonus (5% per merit, and yes you NEED 5/5 Diffusion merits) works on lv90 relic+2, 109 or 119, so reforging to +1 isn't imperative for the buff duration, but you NEED to use these with Diffusion. Drives me crazy when I see 3min MGs from random BLUs.

I've seen other BLUs, and that irks me to no end. With maxed job points, maxed diffusion, +1 boots, I get over 5 minutes on my diffusion mighty guard.

I don't know if NQ and HQ makes a difference, but I HQed them in the first place because they have blue magic skill on them anyway.
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By Asura.Azriel 2016-07-12 20:17:33
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Asura.Sabishii said: »
I've seen other BLUs, and that irks me to no end. With maxed job points, maxed diffusion, +1 boots, I get over 5 minutes on my diffusion mighty guard.


Its a miracle for ppl when ur MG lasts 5:10 >:D
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-07-13 04:43:17
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Each spell has its uses , even at lvl 99.
False.

LOL
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By Yandaime 2016-07-13 05:58:00
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Upgrades that retain value:
-Assimilator's Jubbah +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Keffiyeh +1: blue magic skill
-Luhlaza Bazubands: Azure Lore duration bonus, not necessary to +1
-Luhlaza Charuqs +1: Diffusion duration bonus, blue magic skill
-Hashishin Bazubands +1: blue magic -recast
-Hashishin Tayt +1: blue magic skilll

Nightfyre is right on with the reforge assessment, no issues there. But maybe this is a good place to reinforce a point that some people seem to need a reminder on...

Of all the BLU JSE armor, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD bring your relic shoes for Diffusion+MG duration. The duration bonus (5% per merit, and yes you NEED 5/5 Diffusion merits) works on lv90 relic+2, 109 or 119, so reforging to +1 isn't imperative for the buff duration, but you NEED to use these with Diffusion. Drives me crazy when I see 3min MGs from random BLUs.


I am guilty of this. I'm always so busy jumping in on the current shouts when I get home that I keep forgetting to go farm those damn things. I've been sitting on the materials to 219 them too lmao.

But at the very least I have assimilation capped and Master so my MG lasts 5 minutes. Should be 6 but I'm not too far off lok
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-13 06:02:17
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We can't currently obtain 6+ min Mighty Guards. I don't know how you're getting 5+ mins without the feet either, but I'm assuming there's just confusing wording or typos in your post.

Asura.Sabishii said: »
I don't know if NQ and HQ makes a difference
They don't.
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2016-07-13 06:15:05
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Each spell has its uses , even at lvl 99.
False.

LOL

I'd like to see a reason for every spell then.
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By Inudesu 2016-07-13 06:25:19
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Creaucent Alazrin said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Each spell has its uses , even at lvl 99.
False.

LOL

I'd like to see a reason for every spell then.


If you're not spamming queasyshroom and claw cyclone after a wild oats, do you even Blu brah?
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By Yandaime 2016-07-13 08:10:05
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
We can't currently obtain 6+ min Mighty Guards. I don't know how you're getting 5+ mins without the feet either, but I'm assuming there's just confusing wording or typos in your post.

Asura.Sabishii said: »
I don't know if NQ and HQ makes a difference
They don't.

Confusion from the game's buff timer thingy. It says 4min + when I use MG so I assumed it was 5. And when there's a BLU with me that is capped + feet it reads 6 then immediately drops to 5 so I figured it was 5m and 6m respectively. Easy mistake to make on my part
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-07-13 09:26:42
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Creaucent Alazrin said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Inudesu said: »
Creaucent Alazrin said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Each spell has its uses , even at lvl 99.
False.

LOL

I'd like to see a reason for every spell then.


If you're not spamming queasyshroom and claw cyclone after a wild oats, do you even Blu brah?

Noobs Much ?

if you gonna lvl a job don't you get every spell ?

Sorry but a TRUE BLUE MAGE doesn't skip spells.

Asides, if you wanna gimp yourself , be my guess :D

I am currently sitting at 100% Completion rate on BLU Spell tyvm.

Enjoy~
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