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 Ragnarok.Zenogias
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By Ragnarok.Zenogias 2013-01-23 12:48:46
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What are some good combos for Light and Dark SCs using Azure Lore + CDC?
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By Cerberus.Pukushu 2013-01-23 13:12:27
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Ragnarok.Zenogias said: »
What are some good combos for Light and Dark SCs using Azure Lore + CDC?

check page 1 section 3
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By Ragnarok.Zenogias 2013-01-23 17:22:22
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^ Looked through that section, but it didn't really have what I was looking for. Or rather, I may not know exactly -what- I'm looking for in that section. Still learning the subtleties of BLU chains.

I did some digging on the forum archives and found these combos:

Unbridled Learning
Azure Lore
Whirl of rage
Quadrastrike
** Liqufaction
Goblin Rush
** Fusion
Amorphic Spikes
** Gravitation
Efflux
Quad. Continuum
** Darkness
CDC
** Darkness
Chain Affinity
Bloodrake
** Darkness

Unbridled Learning
Azure Lore
Whirl of Rage
Quadrastrike
** Liqufaction
Frypan
** Fusion
Amorphic Spikes
** Gravitation
Sub-zero Smash
** Fragmentation
Efflux
Goblin Rush
** Light
CDC
** Light
Chain Affinity
Tourbillion
** Light

Do these combos work? Are there better alternatives nowadays? Any alterations/mistakes/changes that the community would recommend?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-23 17:28:50
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those look fine at a glance except for the following:


-Swap Frypan for Dimensional Death, Jet Stream, or Asuran Claws. Slightly better damage and the last two won't likely miss.

-If Accuracy is high, use Heavy Strike over Sub-zero smash.

-Use Efflux on either Heavy Strike or Amorphic Spikes rather than Goblin Rush.

-You can't do three Lv3 SCs in a row

Another fun one to play with is Disseverment -> Goblin Rush -> Benthic Typhoon -> Heavy Strike -> Chant du Cygne -> Chain Affinity Efflux Amorphic Spikes
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By Ragnarok.Zenogias 2013-01-23 18:37:40
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Thank you for the help. How do these look now?

Unbridled Learning
Azure Lore
Whirl of rage
Quadrastrike
** Liqufaction
Goblin Rush
** Fusion
Amorphic Spikes
** Gravitation
Efflux
Quad. Continuum
** Darkness
[CDC] or [CA Bloodrake]
** Darkness


Unbridled Learning
Azure Lore
Whirl of Rage
Quadrastrike
** Liqufaction
Dimensional Death / Jet Stream / Asuran Claws
** Fusion
Efflux
Amorphic Spikes
** Gravitation
Heavy Strike / Sub-zero Smash
** Fragmentation
Goblin Rush
** Light
[CDC] or [CA Tourbillion]
** Light


Azure Lore
Disseverment
Goblin Rush
** ???
Benthic Typhoon
** ???
Heavy Strike
** ???
CDC
** Darkness
Chain Affinity
Efflux
Amorphic Spikes
** Darkness
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-23 18:53:10
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Looks good. Can stick CA in there somewhere on the first and second chains if you're going with CDC for the last step
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By Cerberus.Sey 2013-01-24 11:58:42
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This is a XML question.
When it comes to spells like Actinic Burst and such, is it too fast for precast and midcast setup?
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By Ragnarok.Arcalimo 2013-01-24 13:01:54
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I didn't tried it but i figure it would be too fast considering that some people already has to put castdelays with cures that fire off slower
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-01-24 13:02:12
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Cerberus.Sey said: »
This is a XML question.
When it comes to spells like Actinic Burst and such, is it too fast for precast and midcast setup?

Sort of.

There's a limit on how fast you can swap gear. Lag makes it vary slightly but for me it's .6-.7 secs. So if you have a .5-1 sec spell, it pushes it below how fast you can swap. If you try to do a precast and midcast on short spells, you'll always cast in your precast gear unless you add a cast delay, which most of the time would have to be nearly as long as the spells casttime anyway and defeat the purpose.

I have some exceptions, but most short cast time spells precast in potency gear for me.
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By Phoenix.Belgaer 2013-01-26 17:13:03
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This guide's gear suggestions are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and useless. Some of this gear has no record of how to even obtain it. Some of it requires you to spend dozens or hundreds of millions of gil and then you have to get lucky with a synthesis on top of that. Thanks for the effort, but really?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-26 17:15:38
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If you knew how to read I might have taken your problem seriously. Alternate gear options are below the optimal ones
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-01-26 17:28:30
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Phoenix.Belgaer said: »
This guide's gear suggestions are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and useless. Some of this gear has no record of how to even obtain it. Some of it requires you to spend dozens or hundreds of millions of gil and then you have to get lucky with a synthesis on top of that. Thanks for the effort, but really?

Wahh the best-in-slot gear is hard to obtain wahhh. Gear alternatives are listed below the optimal sets. Or you could, I don't know, make informed decisions based on your knowledge of the job and the gear needed in certain situations.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-01-26 17:36:07
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Thats such a fail troll it might even be worth reporting wow. You are pathetic Belgaer.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-01-26 18:15:16
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I really don't know what's up with Phoenix lately, people making me feel ashamed of my home.
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By Valefor.Omnys 2013-01-28 02:55:13
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Really an amazing guide!

BLU has just been my *** for voidwatch, but I've really really wanted to get into actually playing it. Thanks for the breakdown on optimal gearsets. The general course is obvious (attack stats good!), but it's cool that you offer alternate options.

10/10.
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By Cerberus.Smacksterr 2013-01-28 09:37:35
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Fantastic guide and Prothescar always messages me back when I got questions!
10/10

Found something out though!
I'm sure it has been posted at some point in all these comment pages but I didn't look through them all....

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All-out DD
BLU/WAR

Quad. Continuum
Delta Thrust
Heavy Strike
Sudden Lunge
Amorphic Spikes
Barbed Crescent

Animating Wail
Battery Charge
Cocoon
Occultation
Magic Fruit
Winds of Promyvion

Empty Thrash
Acrid Stream
Demoralizing Roar
Fantod
Blazing Bound
Mortal Ray
Actinic Burst

Traits:
Store TP
Triple Attack
Auto Refresh
Dual Wield III

Based on 60 points (merits ofc)
I usually put Plenilune Embrace in there... brings me to exactly 60 using these same spells for the desired traits. Magic fruit doesn't add to the traits either (It has a resist sleep trait). So am I missing something?

Just curious
thanks again mate, cheers!
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By sefalon 2013-01-28 09:43:41
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Cerberus.Smacksterr said: »
Fantastic guide and Prothescar always messages me back when I got questions!
10/10

Found something out though!
I'm sure it has been posted at some point in all these comment pages but I didn't look through them all....

Quote:
All-out DD
BLU/WAR

Quad. Continuum
Delta Thrust
Heavy Strike
Sudden Lunge
Amorphic Spikes
Barbed Crescent

Animating Wail
Battery Charge
Cocoon
Occultation
Magic Fruit
Winds of Promyvion

Empty Thrash
Acrid Stream
Demoralizing Roar
Fantod
Blazing Bound
Mortal Ray
Actinic Burst

Traits:
Store TP
Triple Attack
Auto Refresh
Dual Wield III

Based on 60 points (merits ofc)
I usually put Plenilune Embrace in there... brings me to exactly 60 using these same spells for the desired traits. Magic fruit doesn't add to the traits either (It has a resist sleep trait). So am I missing something?

Just curious
thanks again mate, cheers!


Magic Fruit is just more MP efficient
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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-01-28 09:43:59
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Magic Fruit is just a lot more mp efficient than plenilune embrace. Stick with plenilune if you are constantly full mana because it is a better heal and gives attack (15% attack boost during full moon), but you can swap to magic fruit if your mana isn't keeping up.
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By Cerberus.Smacksterr 2013-01-28 10:02:27
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I figured that, but I love that attack and my refresh normally can handle it.
Makes sense though in terms of NNI or the sort where /war is really prominent.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-01-30 08:49:09
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Been a while since I posted anything of relevance here, but since I am going to be back on BLU a lot lately to farm my Amano, let the refinement begin!

TP:



Upgrades:
Not really sure where I can get better here since Khepri Bonnet is just not going to happen.

Is there a reason why Kavuk +2 isn't listed as a good option for TP? 6 Haste matches Khepri and you get a ton of Accuracy/Sword Skill. Just curious on that particular piece.

Anything else worth the time to get/change?

CDC:



Upgrades:

This is the set that I can mix and match a lot of different pieces. Full Thaumas is available so IDK if I should put in the Legs over Athos Tights (probably not?). Is the crit hit rate +4% and STR on Thaumas Head (along with the next tier set bonus) not better than NQ Ocelomeh?

Maybe something like this:



Idk.

Thing I know I would need to add are...

HQ Ocelomeh (soon), Toci's (kick rocks), Athos Tabard (kick rocks too), Moonshade (gotta get on that).

Advice? >.>
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-01-30 09:01:53
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Is there a reason why Kavuk +2 isn't listed as a good option for TP? 6 Haste matches Khepri and you get a ton of Accuracy/Sword Skill. Just curious on that particular piece.
Oce+1 should be better on anything where your accuracy is cap(like dyna) due to the big dex, I think.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-01-30 10:06:29
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Cerberus.Smacksterr said: »
I figured that, but I love that attack and my refresh normally can handle it.
Makes sense though in terms of NNI or the sort where /war is really prominent.
Fruit also casts faster, can be recast faster and doesn't lock you up for as long. The little att boost is nice but is a short duration and the drawbacks are just too large.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-01-30 15:48:55
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Your bit on weapons shouldnt really have Sanus Ensis in the never use part its quite nice for solo that massive boost to cures is nice in a pinch and saves on mp. You do have it in your cure set as well and it at least has str+13 on it.

With the Fruit vs Embrace if you really want the att boost you can set Triumphant roar which lasts longer.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2013-01-30 16:32:37
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Recommend Mantis Eye or Smart Grenade for TP, Krylon.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-01-30 17:48:45
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Krylon, if you get in to meebles, you can buy Cheruski Needle and Nemetona Cap. Needle replaces thunder sachet for CDC. Cap replaces Kavuk +2 or Ocelomeh for TP
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By duos 2013-02-04 14:34:45
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This is a great guide that I referenced to friends who are starting blu,

One thing that I feel is lacking (also pointed out by others) is the gearsets, It would be nice if you could show different tiers of sets such as AH/Abby/VW/Optimal. ( two good examples are drk and war guides gearsets ).

This would help us figure out our short term goals while working towards the optimal sets.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-04 14:35:54
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Alternatives are written in text under the sets.
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By Carbuncle.Marshy 2013-02-04 21:30:48
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Should I use Nemetona Cap for single hit STR based spells such as heavy strike, whirl of rage and empty thrash over Relic +2 head?
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-02-04 21:37:49
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Carbuncle.Marshy said: »
Should I use Nemetona Cap for single hit STR based spells such as heavy strike, whirl of rage and empty thrash over Relic +2 head?
That is something I would do, actually.
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