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 Bismarck.Osaia
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2012-04-16 02:07:43
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Looking to start a neo nyzul static on bismarck. Will need some heavy dd (emp/relic) and some healing...preferably sch for embrava. Need members with extensive nyzul experience. No scrubs tht cant figure out lamps. Movement speed (whether thru clipper or whatever) is a definite plus. Not my place to judge you. There is a excellent neo nyzul thread with information on dat swaps for mobs and lamps and such up here, a quick search should show it. Highly suggested it be used. Im still working on a time frame, but im certain it will be after 5pm est time hopefully 3 days or more a week.

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http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Nyzul_Isle_Uncharted_Area_Survey/Strategy
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-16 03:21:54
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Words of advice: there's no "preferably" about SCH. Don't bother going without two of them.
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By GraddHelian 2012-04-16 03:23:46
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Arent GMs startin to crack down on clipper in Nyzul?
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-16 03:26:44
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Undetermined. While it's certainly possible, there's no proof that the recent punishments weren't the result of someone simply making a call about that group while they were inside. Whether that risk is worth it for an individual group is up to that group.
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By GraddHelian 2012-04-16 03:29:35
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Undetermined. While it's certainly possible, there's no proof that the recent punishments weren't the result of someone simply making a call about that group while they were inside. Whether that risk is worth it for an individual group is up to that group.

Gotcha

Read that thread on BG was what made me ask, made the old massive Nyzul/Salvage bans pop in my head, I doubt it will come to that though.

Sorry to derail, GL OP~
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By Bismarck.Strange 2012-04-16 12:29:24
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osaia if you havent filled the group yet count me in i have drk sam and blu.
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2012-04-17 01:08:12
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So far its me, blairx, and strange has volunteered, and possibly a emp thf friend of mine. Need 2 sch with skill and 1 heavy dd. Read my original post for good info on this ridiculously stupid luck based event, and lets get some 100 gear.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-17 01:35:41
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Words of advice: there's no "preferably" about SCH. Don't bother going without two of them.

What about sch and brd? I'd assume that could work
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2012-04-17 02:10:11
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Words of advice: there's no "preferably" about SCH. Don't bother going without two of them.

What about sch and brd? I'd assume that could work

x2 embrava for the whole run.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 02:25:43
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Words of advice: there's no "preferably" about SCH. Don't bother going without two of them.

What about sch and brd? I'd assume that could work

Anything's possible, but you're absolutely reducing your success rate(which is likely already fairly low by default) by not having two SCH.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 02:26:06
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Bismarck.Osaia said: »
So far its me, blairx, and strange has volunteered, and possibly a emp thf friend of mine. Need 2 sch with skill and 1 heavy dd. Read my original post for good info on this ridiculously stupid luck based event, and lets get some 100 gear.

Any kind of THF is a terrible idea.
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2012-04-17 02:37:25
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bismarck.Osaia said: »
So far its me, blairx, and strange has volunteered, and possibly a emp thf friend of mine. Need 2 sch with skill and 1 heavy dd. Read my original post for good info on this ridiculously stupid luck based event, and lets get some 100 gear.

Any kind of THF is a terrible idea.

Yea. Ive been mulling that over. His dmg output wont be high enuff to bring down mobs like I would like. So, still need 2 dedicated sch and 1 heavy dd. As far as clipper is concerned, what goes on in nyzul isle stays in nyzul isle. How you play and/or what tools you use are not my concern. Just know your job.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 02:38:24
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Based on reports coming out of BG, as a user myself, Clipper is sounding like a worse and worse idea.

I won't be using it on future runs.

Er, and I wouldn't be so hasty with the "whatever you do you do" line of thought. Every incident thus far has gotten non-users jailed alongside users.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-17 02:52:41
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I've already instructed my group to cease use of Clipper outside of maybe increasing speed to 125%. Was barely worth the risk before, it's now not even a remote option to anyone with half a brain.

It isn't worth getting ourselves and the guy in my group who doesn't use clipper temp'd/perma'd for a slight increase in floor 100 farming proficiency. Any reasonable person should be capable of drawing that same conclusion.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 02:56:11
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Generally speaking, I'm always between 125-150%, but I haven't decided whether I'm comfortable with 125% in Nyzul. Luckily our group runs a substantial time surplus on average(our most recent runs ending in clears at the 20-minute mark), so finishing our last few pieces shouldn't be difficult.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-17 02:58:59
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I don't take it off of 125 ever. I usually have it up at 137 since that's easily explainable and slips well under the radar. Depending on how intense their "monitoring" of Nyzul is, I may have to regulate the group to only movement speed gear, sprinter's shoes, and powder boots. If it comes down to it I am not willing to jeopardize our accounts for possibly getting 5 pieces of gear faster. We'll see what happens.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-17 03:06:07
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For a while in nyzule while (before I was hacked like 2-3 months ago, then quit) I would always be like clippering through walls and at like 400% np. Idk maybe with the new content they are not as lenient any more. Even back when nyzule was 75 I was running around at those speeds. I just made sure to go with friends who also used it.

Which brings me to my point. I think to many random nubs are using it getting caught, so just when they thought people stopped using it so much, they see the masses using it again. Cause for a while people were always getting caught. Then it seemed like it slipped under their radar. I blame people who used it in pj or any where just zooming around without having a brain.

Use invis if you are, or if you are in water incline and hold yourself there so people don't see splashes. Just common sense things NONE OF THE NEWER GEN PLAYERS DID.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 03:08:05
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..Except that this is isolated to this particular event, so no, your point is entirely invalid.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-04-17 03:09:24
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Thank you for your lesson on how to cheat properly. Surely your paramount intellect will also be able to provide insight as to what is to be done about the GMs spot monitoring runs?
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-04-17 03:14:29
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »

Your post makes my brain hurt.
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2012-04-17 03:21:10
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After reading on bg, I think clipper might be a bad idea. BUT, the link in my original post, along with the dat swaps for the lamps is a very good idea. I used that method on my last run, got to 71. Identifying mobs was simple, and alot of time saved. The problem came from others tht came to the even but werent proficient in making objectives. Now, just because I modded the dats for this nyzul doesnt mean im not good at it unmodded. Always been one of my favorite events. And its common sense easy.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-17 03:23:51
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Oh, there's no doubt about that. Your odds of success are slashed to an astronomically insignificant level without edited lamps. I honestly wouldn't bother if that wasn't an option.

As far as I know, there's no way to detect such things outside of speculation based on lamp success rates. While regarding the disciplinary history of this game, I still cannot fathom that ever happening.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-04-17 03:28:20
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Yeah, I don't think they would catch you from your lamp success rate. If they banned for things like that, I think I would have gotten banned for Sheep in Antlion's Clothing back when I used to spam the fight.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-17 03:30:01
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I'd be banned for making Mee Deggi the Punisher into KB.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-17 03:42:42
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I had treasure chests modded into giant red and white hovering pots when battle glove farming was cool.



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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-04-17 04:58:00
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Is It just nyzul there clamping down on? I generally use clipper @ 125% but sometimes (Dyna for example) if I'm
Alone I'll increase to run from camp to camp
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-04-17 05:12:46
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
Yeah, I don't think they would catch you from your lamp success rate. If they banned for things like that, I think I would have gotten banned for Sheep in Antlion's Clothing back when I used to spam the fight.

people did get banned for this lol
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-04-17 05:27:07
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Asura.Fondue said: »
Odin.Tsuneo said: »
Yeah, I don't think they would catch you from your lamp success rate. If they banned for things like that, I think I would have gotten banned for Sheep in Antlion's Clothing back when I used to spam the fight.

people did get banned for this lol

It's going to take more than your word to convince me. If people got banned, they deserved to be banned for being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Fenrir.Solanis 2012-04-17 06:20:43
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they're probably using a variety of methods. my best guess after reading the bg thread is that they're specifically tracking the runs of people who have a lot of 100 gear.
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2012-04-17 12:12:21
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Bismarck.Osaia said: »
Movement speed (whether thru clipper or whatever) is a definite plus. Not my place to judge you.

I would highly recommend none of your team use any movement speed and clipper, If strange is part of your static, He's a target amongst a lot of people who dislike him.

Anyways, Good Luck.
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