Very Good PC - Very LOL Frame Rate...

i used to have the same issue. HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE lag at fluxes. so bad thay i couldnt climb the mountain in attohwa. would always lag and drop off at #4. updated everything, and never had the issue again

Ive just figured out it must be a setting problem...
Cause not everytime I have this drop of frame rate, I was in jeuno for hours without any lag, 28-29 fps steady sometimes 29.4 w/o any drop...

Is there something that can make conflict with FF?

Oftentimes, I have conflict with a concurrently-running browser (Firefox) if it is running too many active scripts (usually because of too many open tabs.) Fenrir.Mariane once told me it's because of embedded flash-based scripts on certain web pages, and the closing of the browser makes the game so much more responsive.

For sure that might not be the cause of your lag, but I know this happens to more than a few people (having a web browser conflict) so perhaps it might help you out, also.

And yes, that is my way of saying I look at too much internet pr0n...fine. Whatever. :p

the problem with abyssea fluxes on ffxi is transparency effect, ffxi engine (older version of crystal tools) does not support that effect well. WoE fluxes dont lag because they don't have it, i believe they are different .dats

Don't forget that you can set processor affinity in the task manager. By doing so you can separate things like different FFXI windows, your browser with 1000 tabs open, and any other processor intense programs (like Skype with a video call going). I do this to prevent FFXI and Skype from making my StarCraft II streams 'skip'.

(I also use Chrome or IE for my streams while browsing in FireFox to prevent it from being impacted by the browsing tabs/windows. I also separate the browsers' affinity if necessary, though I think I've only had this issue once.)

This sounds like a problem I encountered on my old machine with wow when I first installed the card Nvidia cant remember I think it was like the 500 series ran great after a couple of years though I started having low fps spike I would go from like 60fps to like 9 fps no matter where I went I tried tweaking it and what not but never solved the problem I think it's just the card going bad though I now play ffxi at Mid graphics with no problem on a back up pc with no dedicated card just the onboard graphics works fine

Necrobump!

Solved problem with setting FF on a single core, steady 29.4 everywhere, maybe 27 or so in AH.

But I still have a problem just sometimes, FPS drops a lot, to 15/20, like some1 else running on pc and *** me FF.
No windows update and tryed to disactivate antivirus etc.

I solve this problem by rebooting, what can it be?

if you have problems with confluxes and teleports you can use my nolag patch

http://www.2shared.com/file/mGBGNaSj/GaiaNolag.html

No problems @ fluxes lol 29.4, the problem is the one I said.

No1 can say why?
Its incredible, I have good frame rate for hours and suddenly it drops like hell wtf could be?

I made the updates to my AMD CCC with the suggestions from Emirii and it improved my FR a lot especially at the confluxes.

Time for a little Necromancy.

I just updated my video card to a Radeon 7790 from a 4850 and of course everything runs much better except for FFXI which is worse likely because I upgraded to new drivers. Is anyone running FFXI with a Radeon 7000 series card and if so what version of the catalyst drivers are you using that you get good FFXI performance with?

On a similar note, how is the Geforce 600 series handling FFXI these days? I recall them having issues with it at some point, but I would figure they've been resolved by now. If I had say a 650 Ti or higher would I be safe running XI with the latest drivers?

Do you have to set the affinity then reload ffxi? Or will it work as soon as the setting has been altered?

My FPS fluctuates like that... while I'm standing in my MH.

Yes.

Ah that's good to know in case I have to go that way. I guess I should have to begin with, but live and learn.

I've always had issues with amd cards and ffxi since the 5770's, it comes down (usually) to the power management of the amd cards. FFXI doesn't count as a 3d game to the cards so very often you'll find the card throttling down to the 2d speeds to save power. The workaround is to edit your ace profiles so that the 2d speeds are the same as the full load 3d speeds. There's probably more accurate terminology for that but there's the gist of it.

As a side note, geforce cards have always worked very well for me with ffxi. The geforce cards throttle down as well, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as bad as the amd cards.

FFXI doesn't really utilize your graphics card. Check your usage % with it up, it's just handling the actual screen display not doing any of the behind-the-scenes calculations. This is because they just wrapped the ps2 version for PC, it's more or less an emulator.

Unless your graphic card is specifically having trouble with something that needs to be rendered, improving it will have next to no effect on FFXI.

I checked under catalyst while XI is running the card is showing it's throttled up to max speed. It didn't SEEM to fluctuate with XI running, but it could be doing it at such a rate that the indicators don't show it. The frame rate does seem to bounce up and down for no in-game reason. It was never that wild with the older card/drivers.

I have noticed that when I triple box I have the same micro stutters. No FPS drop or anything just a small stutter which is super annoying. I have a GTX 670 4gb version and its not hardly using any of it and a 3.5 i7 quad core thats hardly being used either so not really sure. Works ok if only one or two boxing though, three just seems to be the bad amount though before I got this new PC I could triple/quad box fine.

I think the best I can do in my PC without upgrading further is the regular Geforce 660. It's a good step up from even where I am now. If that could run FFXI on the latest drivers without choking on the old code AND run newer stuff decently then I'll probably go for that and see what I can recoup from the card I just got. It sucks to have to go that route, but right now it looks like AMD isn't going to get it done for me.

Don't worry so much about your graphics card... XI offloads a lot of the processing onto your CPU rather than your graphics card...

It's a prehistoric DX8 game (Yes, EIGHT, not NINE) which is bad -_- so many issues would be resolved if they moved it to DX9...

As such, things such as processor affinity will increase performance because as people have stated, XI has no concept of multi core, so just give it one core to itself and it'll be happier.

Bad engine is bad.

Yeah, but my problem is my XI performance dropped rather extensively when I upgraded my graphics card. Rather than being more efficient is the card eating up my CPU cycles?

I did set the affinity to one core and it didn't change a thing sadly. I guess I could try a different core.

Did your old GPU burn out, Cams? If you have space on your mobo, (and power supply) you could run both cards, then just enable/disable one or the other as needed on the device manager no? I know that's a pain to have to do every time you want to play FFXI, but it could be a possible work-around if you can't find another solution maybe?

use no shadows, and compressed textures, ffxi is retardedly coded, just like most JP games for pc

It didn't burn out, I just wanted an upgrade as my old one was several generations old. I could slap it back in for now. Sadly I don't have room to have both installed at once.

FFXI cause the card to kick out from 2D speeds because it calls functions related to T&L (transform and lighting).

What the graphics card is doing mostly is animate particles, do lighting effects on the textured surfaces and perform that "aura" effect which is what cause telepoints and confluxes overheat the GPU.

The aura effect is achieved repeating the same 3D pattern several times in a set distance of pixels...

If you look at the crag telepoints, there's a pink round aura surrounding the telepoint crystal, at the ground...

That's what make the card heat up there. There's severe lighting effects on the edges of the veridical confluxes (golden spots) on both top and lower edges. Along with a soft aura effect that particles effect is what cause it to be so taxing.

Weather effects also work the exact same way.

A PS2 can make the Beaucedine glacier snow storm so thick you can't see a malm forward in it but on a PC you can't see the effect correct even if you're running the game on full screen mode...

Architectural differences call on certain circumstances, you see ...

PC version could indeed use a overhaul.