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By Phoenix.Professoroak 2012-08-10 13:42:00
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Ah i was thinking eta to theta i think ill try zeta for a bit apparently i can make them to save even more on them. Cheers!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-08-10 13:59:07
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Lets all remember... you gotta start somewhere. If Perle is what you got... and you are a BST main with nothing better to pluck out of your closet... wear it with pride and work hard to better you situation.

I have a friend who just came back with a new character after a many-year layoff.

he's a ninja. So it's aurore instead of perle, but.

He was in aurore for all of a day. With no help from me or any other "established" players. Pickups, teaming up with other returning people and putting in some work.

Getting better gear is not dificult at this point. I'm not saying he's gotta be +2 AF/Nyzul/VW/best stuff out there. But the sheer laziness of full perle and AH axes...
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By celerez 2012-08-10 14:10:42
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The simple matter of traverser stone restock timing makes that statement a chronological improbability.

I came back to a fresh start in March... I put in my time... I look for pick up groups... I'm part of a large and rather active LS... and granted I spend more time than normal distracted by various endeavors... I still wore perle/aurore for a while on bst/thf/dnc... I even still use perle feet for my bst tp set because I haven't gotten lucky on the Gold chests as of yet.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-08-10 14:23:32
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I didn't say he was in AF3+1/2 within a day.

I may be speaking with some degree of exaggeration on one day. But once he was of level to use aurore, he was wearing it very briefly was my point. He's been back for less than two weeks and truly, between leveling up to and past the point of being able to equip aurore, he wore it quite briefly overall.

And filling in a piece with one of those sets is far different from using the full set, full time, for months on end. Which is certainly the case for some of these beastmasters.

If you're serious about bst, these are not people you should be defending. These are the people that cause others to dislike ALL beastmasters. They have crappy gear, they clearly don't put much thought into their jobs and they run around crowding good players out of legitimate farming so that they can get 100 coins/run in true scrub fashion.
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By celerez 2012-08-10 14:28:17
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
If you're serious about bst, these are not people you should be defending.

I never intended offense of course, and to clarify I am not defending anyone in general. I am simply speaking out against the mentality of "come geared or don't come at all"

I agree fully that you should take pride in what you do (as stated in my original reply) and should strive to better your situation... but the fact remains that the sets are good... and some people just don't have the time/means/favor of the RNG gods to acquire replacements in a timely fashion.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-08-10 14:36:47
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I tend to get kind of chirpy when it comes to people who act in certain fashions. Generally the people who throw around the “skill is more important than gear!” argument and “Let me play how I want!” retorts.

Beastmaster, blue mage, puppet master and dragoon tend to draw many of these players. As do I, in fact, because I have a similar but distinctly different mindset of “play what you enjoy and to hell with people who tell you it’s not worth doing.” I advocate upgrading relic staves and the like…if it’s for a job you really love.

But I don’t advocate playing a job poorly/poorly geared just because you “like” that job. I’ve had some very heated arguments with otherwise very close friends on this topic.

I've been known to be pretty harsh on people playing these jobs and make disparaging comments about the jobs themselves because of the sheer mass of people who play them poorly.

Sorry if I'm coming off as too much of a *** (though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit of one about the whole situation). They're not even the worst gear out there. It's just that running around in it for any length of time and to all outward appearances not even trying to get better is...really sort of "why are you even bothering to play?" territory, in my eyes.
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By Shiva.Paranoid 2012-08-10 15:20:17
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please do let me know about the ferine boots, thanks.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2012-08-11 07:07:09
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Shiva.Paranoid said: »
please do let me know about the ferine boots, thanks.

Tested this with DiscreetLouise:

w/o Spur - 7.4 TP/hit
w/Spur + Ferine Ocreae+2 - 9.6 TP/hit
w/Spur + Skadi's Jambeaux - 9.6 TP/hit

So yeah, you can change your feet equip after using Spur.
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By Xilk 2012-08-11 09:09:11
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Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk said: »
Shiva.Paranoid said: »
please do let me know about the ferine boots, thanks.

Tested this with DiscreetLouise:

w/o Spur - 7.4 TP/hit
w/Spur + Ferine Ocreae+2 - 9.6 TP/hit
w/Spur + Skadi's Jambeaux - 9.6 TP/hit

So yeah, you can change your feet equip after using Spur.

... and again falkirk dots the "i's" and crosses the "T's" when I'm being A-D-D...

thanx for double checking. I got distracted w/ some other tests, then other players last night.

Also @ Hipster

I suspect why most alot of bst-focused players don't go for Toci's/Ocelomeh is related to pet builds. Body is a slot where I can recover some haste for master when I've sacrificed it for pet.

I use a pet-focused tp set for dyna farming. It's difficult to compare whether the pet+ gear will be better or worse than the master+ DD gear. However, In low (none) support situations like dynamis farming, Its probably a safe bet to say the PET+ will give you more of a buff. When I dyna farm, my pet has 24% haste and I have 21%. Pet does alot more damage on lower level mobs than players do. Only time non-pet dd pull ahead of bst in dyna is if they have the support for alot of haste. Then both players get buffed a huge amount while the pet doesn't get any.
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By Xilk 2012-08-11 09:21:32
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@celerez & Professoroak

You're reward sets are a bit off. You probably know, if so, I'm just saying this for the bst who don't.

The CAP on Reward %+ is 50%
Monster gaiters +2 are 30%
Ogre Gloves are +10%
Zoraal Ja's Axe +10%
Pallas's Shield +5%
Ferine Earring +3%

In the sets that you posted, both of you are wasting slots this way. There is no need for 2x Zoraal Ja's axes since monster gaiters got upgraded to +2. the %+ bonus can be capped w/ 3x pieces Total:
Monster gaiters +2
Ogre Gloves
1x Zoraal Ja's Axe

If you are NOT dual wielding, then I think using shield + ferine earring is a convenient substitute for the axe. you get 48% total w/out having to worry about swapping weapon & losing tp.

Also regarding the recast reduction headpieces.
I have no idea why SE made 2 almost-identical pieces between bison warbonnnet and Khimaira bonnet. w/ the respective HQ versioins of EACH.

Please be aware that the NQ versions (Bison & Khimaira) both reduce recast by only 10 seconds, while the HQ versions (Stout & Brave's) reduce reward recast by 15 seconds. There has often been confusion regarding which of these headpieces are HQ.
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By Asura.Hardgrave 2012-08-18 07:18:39
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I was wondering how this would look for Ruinmator..



Main hand is DA+11, Offhand is OAT.
No access to NNI gear, yet.
Mostly a set for farming Dynamis is what I'm looking into.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-18 07:25:05
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Ele. Gorget+Belt, fTP transfers.
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By Asura.Hardgrave 2012-08-18 07:30:20
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Ele. Gorget+Belt, fTP transfers.
I saw that coming, STR earring any good or keep Ghille+1?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-18 07:34:05
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Vulcan's should be better, so should avant +1 legs and ferine +2 hands since you don't need accuracy on dynamis farming.
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By Xilk 2012-08-20 09:23:31
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vulcan's pearl IS better than ghillie's

also, you can add a flame sachet to that set pretty easily.
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By Valefor.Savain 2012-08-26 00:24:37
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I was wondering, what about the following TP set for Dynamis? It's a 12hit to 100 TP.


My current TP set is below, which I average 260-280 coins with.


Do Ferine Ocreae +2 beat D. Sollerets in the following set?


Beside Phorcy's replacing Toci's, is there any other gear the above Ruinator set needs?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2012-08-26 15:06:58
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Dilaram's Sollerets will win over Ferine Ocreae +2 only when your attack is uncapped. Otherwise, the Double Attack+3% will beat the extra point of STR. Also, when you replace the Toci's Harness with Phorcys Korazin, you can swap out the Ferine Manoplas +2 for Phorcys hands (the set bonus will leave you with the same amount of STR in the hands slot, but you'll gain DA+2%.)

Nice gearsets, I'm jealous of the Kraken.
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The day, I start seeing, and feeling about this game the way you and others do. I think, I would rather take a long vacation and rethink...
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-08-27 01:03:38
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Random question, but would Guttler95/DA99 Axes be a good set up or Guttler95/STR99? Looking to start Guttler this week, but wanted to know if that would be a good axe combo.
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Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
Random question, but would Guttler95/DA99 Axes be a good set up or Guttler95/STR99? Looking to start Guttler this week, but wanted to know if that would be a good axe combo.
im gonna go out on a limb and say da > str on that

now for my question of the month:
my bst is purely for dyna. now that we have that out of the way let us judge the sets!
tp
ws

now my question is for the tp set, considering the short consistant fights in dyna, would it be better to say swap af3 legs/feet for the extra haste and lose the nice boost in atk stp pdt etc for 1% haste and light set proc chance? i tryed to base my tp set off of how thf works, i sort of thought having the da axe could make the build more viable but thats alot of work for a theory

on a secondary note, i play my bst like a tank, having my pet finish off proced mobs while i go fight the next to push kill turn over rate up (yes i have a basic pet boost set for when its the only one fighting) im just not sure where the line for haste is drawn on bst before it becomes unneeded, and with the bonuses that my tp set gives im not sure af3 or capped haste thru various slots will push the turn over rate up.

as for ws, it is based on my resolution sets, im trying to aim for a more consistant ws rather than random spikes that dont benefit these short fights

any info that directly helps kill rate would be great!
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By Siren.Bruno 2012-10-12 15:37:40
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
Random question, but would Guttler95/DA99 Axes be a good set up or Guttler95/STR99? Looking to start Guttler this week, but wanted to know if that would be a good axe combo.
im gonna go out on a limb and say da > str on that

now for my question of the month:
my bst is purely for dyna. now that we have that out of the way let us judge the sets!
tp
ws

now my question is for the tp set, considering the short consistant fights in dyna, would it be better to say swap af3 legs/feet for the extra haste and lose the nice boost in atk stp pdt etc for 1% haste and light set proc chance? i tryed to base my tp set off of how thf works, i sort of thought having the da axe could make the build more viable but thats alot of work for a theory

on a secondary note, i play my bst like a tank, having my pet finish off proced mobs while i go fight the next to push kill turn over rate up (yes i have a basic pet boost set for when its the only one fighting) im just not sure where the line for haste is drawn on bst before it becomes unneeded, and with the bonuses that my tp set gives im not sure af3 or capped haste thru various slots will push the turn over rate up.

as for ws, it is based on my resolution sets, im trying to aim for a more consistant ws rather than random spikes that dont benefit these short fights

any info that directly helps kill rate would be great!


TP set seems fine, to me. In terms of damage, AF3+2 feet would beat Phorcys, but like you said, you're tanking a lot. Tying in with that, when you're not tanking in some situations, Rancor Collar would be better than Ferine Necklace. Only way I see you can cap your Haste without hurting your damage would probably be Hrafn/Huginn feet, but I'm not really sure how easy those are to come by lol.

As for the Ruinator set, the only thing I really see as a problem is Vulcan's Pearl or even a STR+3 earring would be better than TP Bonus Moonshade for standard Dynamis mobs. It would just be raising your Accuracy, which should be capped on those mobs. Also, I'm not sure if you do Meeble Burrows or not, but Cheruski Needle would be a nice upgrade from Flame Sachet. Besides that, the rest of the set looks pretty solid. Only possible upgrade I see is Huginn Hose, since I'm sure Avant+1 beats Hrafn..but again, those are pretty rare lol.

Also, pretty sure in most situations, DA magian Axe is the top mainhand axe outside of mythic/relic/emp, the work would be worth it.
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By Chimerawizard 2012-10-17 09:26:45
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Valefor.Savain said: »
My current TP set is below, which I average 260-280 coins with.
Very nice, glad to hear I can strive for 250+ average. Is there something I should swap out from this set?
(head, body, hands, neck and ring have 2 variant pieces in actual set if checked)

Also, are the changes all for the best? I am trying for max Haste/TP set in dynamis.

Oh, one last thing, what should I strive for first and formost for a Ruinator set. I know fTP>all but what next? double/triple attack, attack, STR
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Siren.Bruno said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
Random question, but would Guttler95/DA99 Axes be a good set up or Guttler95/STR99? Looking to start Guttler this week, but wanted to know if that would be a good axe combo.
im gonna go out on a limb and say da > str on that

now for my question of the month:
my bst is purely for dyna. now that we have that out of the way let us judge the sets!
tp
ws

now my question is for the tp set, considering the short consistant fights in dyna, would it be better to say swap af3 legs/feet for the extra haste and lose the nice boost in atk stp pdt etc for 1% haste and light set proc chance? i tryed to base my tp set off of how thf works, i sort of thought having the da axe could make the build more viable but thats alot of work for a theory

on a secondary note, i play my bst like a tank, having my pet finish off proced mobs while i go fight the next to push kill turn over rate up (yes i have a basic pet boost set for when its the only one fighting) im just not sure where the line for haste is drawn on bst before it becomes unneeded, and with the bonuses that my tp set gives im not sure af3 or capped haste thru various slots will push the turn over rate up.

as for ws, it is based on my resolution sets, im trying to aim for a more consistant ws rather than random spikes that dont benefit these short fights

any info that directly helps kill rate would be great!


TP set seems fine, to me. In terms of damage, AF3+2 feet would beat Phorcys, but like you said, you're tanking a lot. Tying in with that, when you're not tanking in some situations, Rancor Collar would be better than Ferine Necklace. Only way I see you can cap your Haste without hurting your damage would probably be Hrafn/Huginn feet, but I'm not really sure how easy those are to come by lol.

As for the Ruinator set, the only thing I really see as a problem is Vulcan's Pearl or even a STR+3 earring would be better than TP Bonus Moonshade for standard Dynamis mobs. It would just be raising your Accuracy, which should be capped on those mobs. Also, I'm not sure if you do Meeble Burrows or not, but Cheruski Needle would be a nice upgrade from Flame Sachet. Besides that, the rest of the set looks pretty solid. Only possible upgrade I see is Huginn Hose, since I'm sure Avant+1 beats Hrafn..but again, those are pretty rare lol.

Also, pretty sure in most situations, DA magian Axe is the top mainhand axe outside of mythic/relic/emp, the work would be worth it.
started the da axe for main hand last night
no huginn legs for me, and due to the lack of need for acc i think avant +1 probably top them in this situation anyway due to the double attack (conserve tp nerf)

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Valefor.Savain said: »
My current TP set is below, which I average 260-280 coins with.
Very nice, glad to hear I can strive for 250+ average. Is there something I should swap out from this set?
(head, body, hands, neck and ring have 2 variant pieces in actual set if checked)

Also, are the changes all for the best? I am trying for max Haste/TP set in dynamis.

Oh, one last thing, what should I strive for first and formost for a Ruinator set. I know fTP>all but what next? double/triple attack, attack, STR

my ruinator set is about perfect for a consistant average in 90% of situations, as said in the post to mine, dont need the moonshade and also if you crave occastional spikes then drop 1 pyrosoul for eponas

in dyna my lowest ws average is 2.9k on ep, never looked to see if thats missing a hit or not, somehow managed 5k last week

edit: the major difference i notice between sets of those with high coin counts and lower, is gearing yourself to be a dd with minimal loss to boost your pet seems to average best, think a bit like drg... you have a pet but its better off being used to hold a mob youve staggered than to be the heavy hitter on the one youre fighting
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By Odin.Karusan 2012-11-14 05:55:24
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Ok so I'm a returning BST that just got back from a 2 year break and have no +1 ferine let alone +2. What I'm kind of looking for is some advice on where I should start? I'll probably be doing a lot of this myself because I don't really have anyone else to play with.

First thing I did was get Ducal Guard Atma but still stuck on 2 atmas due to not having enough wins. Basically I suck and my attempt to try kill some NM's resulted in death.

Going to go work my arse off to get two of the -PDT axes since they seem totally important.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-11-14 06:04:46
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All you need.
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pet sets - add on augment gear/ various af
bst tp/ws sets - read up
hybrid sets - read up

its all about familiars now, dont really plan to be charm spaming
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By Odin.Karusan 2012-11-14 08:21:43
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
pet sets - add on augment gear/ various af
bst tp/ws sets - read up
hybrid sets - read up

its all about familiars now, dont really plan to be charm spaming
Think it's worth changing my Anwig Salade from RNG to BST for -pdt then?
Pretty sure I redid the chest already and haven't completed the legs.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-14 21:41:29
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Odin.Karusan said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
pet sets - add on augment gear/ various af
bst tp/ws sets - read up
hybrid sets - read up

its all about familiars now, dont really plan to be charm spaming
Think it's worth changing my Anwig Salade from RNG to BST for -pdt then?
Pretty sure I redid the chest already and haven't completed the legs.
probably, rng has a lot of options that cover mods to be atleast as good or better

pet: 5haste -10 damage taken is the way to go, imo the best option these days out of any combination for any job in the game
note: opinion~ but 20/20 jobs speaks
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By Odin.Karusan 2012-11-15 04:11:26
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
probably, rng has a lot of options that cover mods to be atleast as good or better

pet: 5haste -10 damage taken is the way to go, imo the best option these days out of any combination for any job in the game
note: opinion~ but 20/20 jobs speaks
Can just use Maat's cap in the meantime. Working on my axe now, seems fairly easy these days so that should be finished by the weekend, then I need to figure out how I'm going to get some +1 and +2 Ferine.

What do you use on chest? Call Beast delay -15 and Double Attack+/Crit+? Or Attack+/Ranged+ and Accuracy+/Ranged+?
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-15 06:38:40
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really depends what you plan to fight lol, atk is probably a solid option on body, after that its just all situational
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