Gene Simmons On Lip-Syncing

Nope. I was correct when I typed quality- its objectionable. Quality of art is objectionable. That's one of the key points you learn in Art History. The "observer" has just as much input into the quality of work as the "artist."

You're not even applying properly your own concept, at this point I'm just going to ignore whatever you say.

It's not my concept take it up with Monet and the Impressionist movement. Its a key concept in art.

Your own=the one you brought up. Nice comprehension skills.

Give me a minute. I'll cite this...

Given your attempts at classifying classical music, I'm going to assume that you don't fully understand what qualifies as part of the genre. Classical music is still being written today. Explorations in style are constantly written, presented, and analyzed by peers. If you're going to limit your view to centuries-dead composers you may as well say that blues is passe because nobody listens to Robert L. Johnson anymore, or that rock is passe because Chuck Berry isn't currently popular. Further, classical music is absolutely not limited to a handful of radio stations. Orchestras still hold numerous concerts each year. Theatrical productions, film, and video games all continue to employ classical music to some degree. The theory is present in much of today's music, but to only examine that is to fail to open your ears and realize that you've probably heard at least a few bars of a classically styled piece today.

Orchestras do hold numerous concerts. How are their sales/ticket sales numbers not cost versus umm Rihanna or Madonna. They are passe in that sense as well.

Ok and in terms of mass radio airplays? How does it compare to ugh Nicki Minaj or Katy Perry? You failed to rebut that point. Its not popular you cant argue that its as popular or receives as many radio spins as Katy Perry whoever is top of the charts lately.

I never tried to argue that it's as popular as the latest pop diva, you're putting words in my mouth. Your argument isn't particularly sound either - lack of airtime doesn't make something passe, it just means it caters to a different audience. Back to the sliding scale I referred to previously.

New Year's Day is the best day of the year because of the Vienna Philharmonic's concert :|

Just to toss it out there. Nobuo Uematsu.

While not titled specifically as a classical composer, what else are you going to refer to his music as? Just calling it "video game music" doesn't fly.

What about the countless scores written and performed for movies and TV shows?

It would take a person who is totally beyond ignorant to believe that any form of music (or art for that matter) as "passe."

It does make it passe because i havnt heard classic music on popular airplay in how long common.... its a pretty valid argument.

Would you consider Deadmau5 passe? I've never heard him on FM radio.

The point is that there's still a sufficiently large audience to sustain the genre. Lack of delivery via a given method is not a sufficient criterion to label it passe.

I have!

Would you consider Deadmau5 passe? I've never heard him on FM radio.[/quote]

Hmm... no... but. I ask you are you placing him in the category of Classical?

I weep for the world. Should've gone with somebody in my library instead of gambling with a big name.

Also quoting my edit:

Radio inherentely caters to the capitalist side of the spectrum. There are subgenres of music that get little or no delivery via popular methods (prog rock in all its myriad forms, anyone?) that still maintain a substantial and devoted following.

I'm not sure how you could consider the answer to that remotely relevant, but it's not.

Seriously, the idea that something is passe because it's not as popular as pop music is astounding.

Sorry Mozart, it's not real music unless someone is shaking their titties to it.

Tom & Jerry anyone?

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It's passe because the majority of people don't listen to it. Which is the definition of the word.

passé - 1. No longer current or in fashion; out-of-date. 2. Past the prime; faded or aged.

I'm not trying to defend the quality of music on MTV or KIIS FM...etc But that is prime. That is whats "in." That is what is popular. That is what is "not passe." Everything that isnt on that is "passe."

E.g. Alernative rock may still exist but its passe. Its nothing compared to its prime in the 90s

On the subject of classical, I like listening to some contemporary classical. Philip Glass, and I've just discovered Ludovico Einaudi thanks to Insidious!

I agree with Tikal (I believe it was) who said the dancing is just a filler to distract you from lack of talent or whatever. I believe you should be able to captivate an audience with your music.

Edit - Barenaked Ladies sound better live, IMO, but then live albums are altered as well

How is classical music "passe"? I always thought that kind of stuff was timeless.
For passe stuff, you'd probably want to look into Serialism.

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By those definitions, anything that isn't electro house (in terms of electronic music) is outdated :P

And we're just trying to point out that classical is still used in everything. Just because it isn't on the radio doesn't mean it isn't around you.

And alternative is probably one of the worst examples you could of picked. Virtually every city has a radio channel devoted to alternative and is arguably one of the larger forms of music at the moment... should of gone with 80's hair metal as a better example.

80's hair metal is good for repelling old people. Then again, so is hip hop, and that's more enjoyable.

Alternative is a perfect example. Just because your city has a radio station devoted to alternative doesnt mean its prime in terms of current music. Go look at the Billboard top 100 singles chart. none are alternative. its not prime.

Just because a small group of people want to listen to it doesnt mean its "prime." It can still be passe.

That's like me saying "oh we have a radio station in Austin that plays Milli-Vanilli. Ok and? Is he prime on the charts? No. He's passe. Passe means. Not current. Just like fashion.

I think you just like using the word passe!

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100

Seeing as Fun. is currently #1 and Gotye is #5, you're an idiot.

I think this is one of those situations where you're using a stronger word than you think you're using.

your an idiot if you think thats alternative. thats Indie Rock. totally different. I think Courtney Love and Nirvana would like a word with you.