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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Did anyone even read the link? lol... Well, no. But even so, 49 to 45% still doesn't just mean the 49% gets to do whatever they want. I wish all the time and effort arguing about abortion was just spent preventing rape, birth defects, incest, and stupidity. :| Fenrir.Terminus said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Did anyone even read the link? lol... More time spent attempting to prevent those things definitely would be a better use of time for sure.
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Fenrir.Terminus said: » Vudoku said: » Lakshmi.Jesi said: » Bahamut.Jetackuu said: » I think religion needs to get the *** out Believe it or not, politicians represent people's views. You blame the republicans, but if there weren't TONS of religious nut jobs out there, they wouldn't be able to be against abortion and come up with crazy laws like this because no one would vote for them. In 2011 49% of Americans are pro life. http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/americans-split-along-pro-choice-pro-life-lines.aspx The whole pro life and anti birth control movements from religious organizations is a GREAT idea. My grandma had 13 kids and my aunt had 6 kids and both did that because they were catholic and didn't believe in birth control. More Catholics for the world baby. So you can get mad at the party representing these people all you want. But the real problem is the people adamant against abortion who encourage these types of bills. And with 49% of people having the pro-life stance, you can expect this to not go away any time soon. 49%????????????????? Isn't that a minority of people? Ignoring your lack of math skills, imposing laws that favor your majority (49%!!!) opinion are completely ignorant. You're calling Jesi ignorant, and you propose ignoring the wishes (assuming it's true) of 49% of people? Really? For one, let's imagine that 2% of people had no opinion or were undecided. That's not all that far fetched, is it? Where's your majority now? But don't forget about the responsibility of the majority to the minority. By your thinking, the wishes of the minority don't matter. How often do you disagree with government? Ooops too bad - what you think doesn't matter. The entire point of what Jesi said is that it's close. There aren't 3 people championing pro-life. It's almost a draw, numbers wise, and you (and anyone else) would be a damned fool to disregard that. A person lecturing about how everyone is ignorant but that they are also ignorant to their ignorance but if they embraced their ignorance it would be a good thing because they would take themselves less serious?
Lakshmi.Flavin said: » A person lecturing about how everyone is ignorant but that they are also ignorant to their ignorance but if they embraced their ignorance it would be a good thing because they would take themselves less serious? Everyone has the capacity to be ignorant. and most people are ignorant especially when it comes to things they care about. And lets face it. Ignorant people don't believe they are ignorant. Leviathan.Phenomena said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » A person lecturing about how everyone is ignorant but that they are also ignorant to their ignorance but if they embraced their ignorance it would be a good thing because they would take themselves less serious? Everyone has the capacity to be ignorant. and most people are ignorant especially when it comes to things they care about. And lets face it. Ignorant people don't believe they are ignorant. birth control =/= abortion.....
leaving now Leviathan.Draugo said: » birth control =/= abortion..... leaving now What about the morning after pil? o.o Always wondered what people thought of that. Leviathan.Phenomena said: » Leviathan.Draugo said: » birth control =/= abortion..... leaving now What about the morning after pil? o.o Always wondered what people thought of that. on a serious note, the morning after pill is a good thing. coming from past experience (and one weak condom) the extra help preventing an unwanted pregnancy is welcome. Ive heard it called the abortion pill, kind of hard to abort what isnt there yes? Lakshmi.Flavin said: » A person lecturing about how everyone is ignorant but that they are also ignorant to their ignorance but if they embraced their ignorance it would be a good thing because they would take themselves less serious? Leviathan.Phenomena said: » Cerberus.Eugene said: » Valefor.Slipispsycho said: » On topic, I'm not really sure what to make of it.. I can see both sides of the argument.. I mean at least the way it's worded it seems like they're trying to protect doctors from stuff they didn't manage to catch.. It's worded that way for a reason. Given the current outpouring of intrusive attempts to stall abortion, I think its safe to see a pattern. Doctors have malpractice insurance for a reason. If they do make a mistake, they are covered on the occasion they make a mistake (which shouldn't be often). This seems more to me a thinly veiled attempt at protecting pro-life doctors. Doctors get sued of stuff that they shouldn't just because people want to exploit easy money. also they have to pay for their malpractice insurance and it raises each time they get sued. If theres no case, then the plaintiff loses. If they make a mistake, then they deserve to feel a little hurt, just like if you crash your car you have to pay a bit more for a while too. Yes there are some problems, occasionally with people trying to make a quick buck, but this isn't the solution to that. Vudoku said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » A person lecturing about how everyone is ignorant but that they are also ignorant to their ignorance but if they embraced their ignorance it would be a good thing because they would take themselves less serious? |
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