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By Matrixmack 2012-03-09 20:26:56
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Just gotten Yochi to 90 yesterday .. Did a run on Uptala .. thou i always know that Namas Arrow is not so much abt dmg but more on the low/no enmity.

But the dmg was still rather disappointing ... Tried both Str build and Agi build .. the dmg for both is between 600 - 800.

My wildfire does consistant 1500+. haha

I was tinking if my eq setup is not correct ... like to have some comments ^^

Str Set


Agi Set
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-03-09 20:37:27
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Could've been an anni
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-09 20:37:44
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Don't feel badly. Uptala is resistant to piercing damage. I'm fairly sure it's considered undead, so naturally Wildfire would do better damage.

Leviathan.Prototyp said: »
Could've been an anni

I put Anni away fighting when him and use bow to save money!

inb4 lolbowdamn it too late!
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-09 20:38:48
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You should use your STR set with:
Mirador trousers instead
Scout's socks +2 instead
Get flame pearl at least...

Namas is rather lackluster nowadays since there's Jishnu's
And it's Naraka mob.. it's almost always magical damage does better.
 
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-09 20:43:52
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Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
always always always always STR

As far as changes go
  • Rajas -> Pyrosoul (if you do not need the STP)
    Teutates Subligar -> Hachiryu Haidate
    Maat's Cap -> Cuauh. Headpiece +1
    Flame Earrings -> Vulcan Pearls



Minor upgrades for the most part, but upgrades.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-09 20:45:43
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Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
always always always always STR

As far as changes go
  • Rajas -> Pyrosoul (if you do not need the STP)
    Teutates Subligar -> Hachiryu Haidate
    Maat's Cap -> Cuauh. Headpiece +1
    Flame Earrings -> Vulcan Pearls



Minor upgrades for the most part, but upgrades.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-09 20:49:53
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Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
always always always always STR

As far as changes go
  • Rajas -> Pyrosoul (if you do not need the STP)
    Teutates Subligar -> Hachiryu Haidate
    Maat's Cap -> Cuauh. Headpiece +1
    Flame Earrings -> Vulcan Pearls



Minor upgrades for the most part, but upgrades.
Want =\
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-03-10 01:21:34
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rng/war tp:



my current namas set


upgrades i am working on:
scout's socks +2
and eventually HQ earrings / maybe another pyrosoul if i can tweak my tp gains a bit.


edited a few times because i derp a lot.
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2012-03-10 01:33:04
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str str and more str. Get rid of the gorget's/belts and replace them with str.

I love doing VW as ranger and spamming Namas arrow. Barrage's for 7k+ and Namas for 1500+(depending on food but you should be eating red curry anyways).

My namas seems to do a few hundred less than refulgent arrow(300TP refulgent arrow significantly better damage wise but full of enmity). However, I can sit there and spam namas arrows... or do a couple refulgent/apex(100tp)/sw(100tp) and start drawing hate...

A dead ranger is a useless ranger. I guarantee yoichi would outparse a gandiva head to head because the Gandiva will die fast while you still fire off ws's.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-03-10 01:37:12
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scouts bracers +2 better then sylvan glovettes +2?

aka


3str 7 archery skill
vs
7agi 11Ratt
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2012-03-10 01:37:54
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7 str 7 agi 11 rattk... what are you reading?

edit... i see it. you're comparing giving 3 more str.

I think personally this is preference. I've not noticed a difference in damage output of the 2. I just really prefer Scout's Bracers +2... you could be right though.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-03-10 01:40:15
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either way they are both solid pieces.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-03-10 02:09:29
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Ragnarok.Baconchips said: »

str str and more str. Get rid of the gorget's/belts and replace them with str.

I love doing VW as ranger and spamming Namas arrow. Barrage's for 7k+ and Namas for 1500+(depending on food but you should be eating red curry anyways).

My namas seems to do a few hundred less than refulgent arrow(300TP refulgent arrow significantly better damage wise but full of enmity). However, I can sit there and spam namas arrows... or do a couple refulgent/apex(100tp)/sw(100tp) and start drawing hate...

A dead ranger is a useless ranger. I guarantee yoichi would outparse a gandiva head to head because the Gandiva will die fast while you still fire off ws's.

Few things:

You're doing it wrong if you're worrying about enmity in voidwatch. I sit right next to the mob and fire off 4-5k+ last stands (rcb, minuetx2), popping fanatic's drinks whenever necessary. I have an annihilator, so I could be using coronach, but it's absolutely pointless when you take 0 damage.

In response to OP: I always use armageddon vs uptala (and kalasutrax), and since you have one already, you should actually be using armageddon vs every VW mob, and using last stand, not namas arrow.

Yoichi is a decent weapon for SAM. It's not a good weapon for RNG. There are so many easier and better options: armageddon, annihilator, magian gun, gandiva (/sadface) etc.

I'll toss in another lolbow to conclude.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-10 02:24:21
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you sound mad :X
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2012-03-10 02:25:39
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
you sound mad :X
you sound like another person that's about to stick their nose in this thread and bring to light stuff that the THREAD IS NOT ABOUT.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-10 02:31:59
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you're precisely doing that right now as well :<
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-10 02:40:47
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God forbid someone who knows what they're talking about tell you that you're not playing optimally, give you pointers on what you could do better, and explain it all clearly and concisely without resorting to personal attacks and rudeness.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-10 03:02:53
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Two things: One, Bacon, go away. Two, Helel's suggestions are spot on. You're going to cap your enmity through TP damage regardless of your WS choice, so you may as well be using the one that eclipses the other.

Oh, and for the love of Allah, don't fire from far away. You're only serving to slow the fight and endanger others at range.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2012-03-10 03:59:03
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Ragnarok.Baconchips said: »
Helel, You sir, are an idiot. Look at the thread topic and go troll somewhere else you internet thug.
Let's not resort to personal insults, unless you're aching for a topicban. You either agree, or you don't, plain and simple.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-03-10 06:20:17
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As a nooby rng(20) cor(18) How does the tp bonus earring compare for /ra WS sets vs. a str earring?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-10 06:23:46
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for which ws?
For namas tp bonus would'nt do anything
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-03-10 06:28:10
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
for which ws? For namas tp bonus would'nt do anything

Just /ra WS in general really
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-10 06:35:16
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Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
for which ws? For namas tp bonus would'nt do anything

Just /ra WS in general really
Sidewinder - accuracy is non-issue for any relevant stuffs.
Refulgent & Apex Arrow - No comment. I don't quite understand how these 2 work in detail
Namas Arrow - useless, as stated above.
Jishnu's Radiance - 2~3% crit dmg up. But your base crit at 100TP probably already sitting at ~42~48% crit damage.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-10 07:15:51
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Two things: One, Bacon, go away.
Never thought I'd see a guy say that. Unless they're vegetarians I guess.
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2012-03-10 10:55:19
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
for which ws? For namas tp bonus would'nt do anything

Just /ra WS in general really
Sidewinder - accuracy is non-issue for any relevant stuffs.
Refulgent & Apex Arrow - No comment. I don't quite understand how these 2 work in detail
Namas Arrow - useless, as stated above.
Jishnu's Radiance - 2~3% crit dmg up. But your base crit at 100TP probably already sitting at ~42~48% crit damage.

Namas Arrow - useless? I find it funny that the people with yoichi's and have actually experimented know what they're talking about and those that have never touched it just look from the outside and think they know whats going on.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-03-10 10:57:34
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Damage multiplier is 2.75 regardless of tp.
Look at what he's talking about: tp bonus Moonshade.
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