Random Question Thread (FFXI Related)

Every time I view a page on that site my laptop freezes for like 30 seconds. :/

Thanks^^

Just recently got back. Is Tourbillion fixed yet? Or if anyone knows if SE has said anything about it?

Still works on the test server, still broken on the real servers. Ageha no longer lands worth ***on the real servers, if you missed that. Recent reports suggest that some other effects (Metatron Torment's def down for instance) are also broken.

My current hypothesis is that it has something to do with the way that certain additional effects resist. Currently I've only documented defense down, blind, and accuracy down additional effects having the problem, and I suspect that these status effects, possibly more, have some issue regarding the specific code bits that govern these additional effect's resist states; i.e. full duration, half resist, full resist. The only wrench in the scheme is Hecatomb Wave, which has no specific duration, however it's possible that even when randomized it can cut the randomized duration in half on a resist.

Currently affected abilities and spells (the ones I've tested):

-Tourbillion (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Sandspin (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Barbed Crescent (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Hecatomb Wave (Add. effect: Blind)
-Tachi: Ageha (Add. effect: Defense down)


Ones recently tested by others:
-Metatron Torment (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Onslaught (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Full Break (Add. effect: Accuracy, Attack, Defense, and Evasion down)
-Armor Break (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Shell Crusher (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Randgrith (Add. effect: Evasion down)
-Nightmare Scythe (Add. effect: Blind)
-Skullbreaker (Add. effect: INT down)


I suspect that similar abilities and spells would behave similarly. I can't test anything else, nor can I file a report on the official forums about the relic weaponskill(s) that are affected, as my subscription lapsed a few weeks ago.

If anyone wants to test some other things, the weaponskills I'd want to look at next would be:

-Gate of Tartarus (Add. effect: Attack down)
-Blade: Metsu (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Guillotine (Add. effect: Silence)
-Tachi: Yukikaze (Add. effect: Blind)
-Tachi: Gekko (Add. effect: Silence)
-Tachi: Kasha (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Weapon Break (Add. effect: Attack down)
-Wasp Sting (Add. effect: Poison)
-Viper Bite (Add. effect: Poison)
-Exenterator (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Blade: Retsu (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Shattersoul (Add. effect: Magic Defense down)
-Vidohunir (Add. effect: Magic Defense down)
-Garland of Bliss (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Omniscience (Add. effect: Magic Attack down)
-Seedspray (Add. effect: Defense down)




Abilities and spells that are not affected:

-Blade: Kamu (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Shijin Spiral (Add. effect: Plague)
-Blade: Yu (Add. effect: Poison)
-Shadowstitch (Add. effect: Blind)
-Head Butt (Add. effect: Stun)
-Sudden Lunge (Add. effect: Stun)
-Delta Thrust (Add. effect: Plague)
-Spiral Spin (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Benthic Typhoon (Add. effect: Defense and Magic Defense down)
-Bilgestorm (Add. effect: Accuracy, Attack, and Defense down)

Question about assassin's bonnet +2:

According to BGwiki "Allows two effects to be dispelled or stolen by Aura Steal, additional 20% chance per merit level." Is the 20% chance just for the stolen effect, or for dispel as well?

Basically, 1 merit Aura Steal is 100% dispel and 20% steal buff. Does that hat make 1 merit Aura Steal into 100% dispel 2 buff, and 20% to steal each buff?

Edit: Fixed.

Adding Onslaught to the list of broken relic WSs :\

Have you considered that there may just be a non-100% chance of the additional effect?

I really don't know much about the add effects and such, but

Wouldn't it be possible that it was a bug that they landed 100% of the time and they're now "working as intended?"




Just a thought, I may be completely wrong.


edit: and Byrth beat me. Damned term papers!

You take me for a fool. They were tested more than once. I accounted for normal resist states, an additional effect completely resisting 11 times in a row is not normal.

On mobs weak enough, the effects land practically 100% of the time, at full duration, whereas on higher level mobs, it lands 5%+/- of the time, at half duration... that fits PERFECTLY with a resist.

It does this now on the actual servers or it does this now on the test server?

or...

this is what "should" happen, but doesn't?



Sorry for the questions D:

Just trying to understand what's going on, since if Ageha would land it'd be pretty nice. :3

It's been doing this on real servers for over a year now with other things such as Sandspin and other BLU spells, can only assume the ones I've been testing and have been having tested recently are in the same boat.

The Metatron Torment test was done over seventeen weaponskills, 16 of which failed to land completely and one landed for half duration. All of the effects work properly on the test server, land rates working as expected.

Metatron Torment has been shown to have a terrible land rate even on shitty low level mobs in Altepa, though. I can't imagine landing it on anything much weaker than that without outright killing them.

Low level elementals. My blue magic tests were done on Batallia Downs monsters, so Altepa ones showing a poor land rate is not surprising to me. You need to go considerably lower to land reliably.

Furthermore, Elemental Seal causes BLU spell effects to land properly, near perfect proof that their m.acc is completely broken. Obviously can't do the same with weaponskills, however everything else has mirrored perfectly between weaponskills and spells so far.

Well, that sucks. I guess the multiple times I've asked for them to fix Metatron Torment's additional effect on the OF weren't entirely misguided then. You'd have to assume they realize there's a problem if it works on the test server and is broken on the real server.

Evidently they don't care. I was making regular reports to them for the last year+ and have received nothing but "WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT" for each one. I'd advise as many people as possible to report it all so that maybe they actually will look into it.

Edit: adding half of full break to the list
edit2: armor break too. could really use someone going to do Nightmare Scythe real quick to verify if Hecatomb Wave is just an odd man out
edit3: shell crusher bites the dust
edit4: Randgrith broken
edit5: Nightmare Scythe broken
edit6: skullbreaker...

I'm on Mission 3. Trying to get moonshade earring. How long will it take? i have access to a dbox both SMN and BST...

Any tips?

The worst part of WotG is the filler; running around for hours getting cutscenes and doing stupid fetch quests. I'd say, from start to finish, it'd take a few days. It's not difficult at any stage really.



Addendum regarding the stuff I've posted today in this thread: I'd ask that everyone goes and supports Yugl's thread in the In-Game Bugs section of the Officials regarding additional effect magic accuracy.

Is there some way to get the lvl 99 version of my Bravura to show up in my Item Sets instead of the lvl 75 version?

I know its possible somehow because Ejiin has 99 conqueror in his hypothetical set:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/274267

Input the number in the item link for the appropriate level.

EDIT: 19751

Ah cool, thanks.

how strong is the weaken attacks effect on amano?

I don't have access to the test server, did a little bit of looking around as well...

Does the Mythic weapon damage increase to their native weaponskills apply to all hits?

Yep. Mythic WS DMG+ applies to the entire WS.

Oh that's sweet!

Does NQ Ebody still hold value or do you really need HQ to be of worth now for WAR and DRK? I have an NQ version, but not really sure if I should work on augmenting it or not.

It's worth using, but obviously the HQ is better.
Not lazy? Go get a HQ, you wont regret it if you do.
Lazy like me? Stay with your NQ and get stp5\da2 :p

Cool, I was mostly wondering if that extra 1DA/1STP would make a big difference, or if the NQ I already have would be decent. I'm still mostly out of the loop with things and certainly don't have 20 million for the HQ or another Abj.

One other dumb question, why did they remove the bazaar tax in Jeuno? The clusterfuck at the PJ guidestone is incredibly annoying compared to Rolanmart.

Actually no, I've been soloing/exp parties in Gusgen Mines with my magic classes. My main is SMN followed by RDM and WHM. Is SAM easiest or would SMN, or RDM, be better at this point?