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 Bahamut.Fistandantilus
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-02 19:31:08
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Josiahkf said: »
ranger wearing a sash *** yeah lol

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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-02 19:31:15
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THF has TH seven on gear/traits but first quick proc when u SA gives you TH8
 
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:32:25
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Josiahkf said: »
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If they limit it to those two pets only, then I agree with the complaints. If not then I see only benefits and nothing really bad.

You can get TH3 with thf sub and sash right? So you can still get what you had before, correct?

I'm not sure how the pet system works.
yeah but dipper had th3 and bst could sub dancer to cure themselves debuff/buff. harder to solo dynamis as bst/thf

I think that's half the reason they are nerfing it. Everyone else has to sacrifice survivability or offensive capacity for TH, except for THF (well, THF makes sacrifices in that it's THF, but that's a different story

Also THF gear is ugly as ***. /SIDETRACK)

Although BST doesn't get the higher tiers of TH, even SE knows that only THII/III matter statistically. They want you to make sacrifices to get to that level.
 
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By Cerberus.Ica 2012-02-02 19:34:11
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I'd be happy with my pet having TH2. RNG gets it. Why can't a THF pet?
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By Bismarck.Recaldy 2012-02-02 19:34:20
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I just say that when I'm running thf with Dread atma. That's without +2 hands ofcourse.
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By Bismarck.Inagarten 2012-02-02 19:37:05
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Cerberus.Ica said: »
I'd be happy with my pet having TH2. RNG gets it. Why can't a THF pet?

RNG gets it on an ability it can use once every 5 minutes.
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By Cerberus.Ica 2012-02-02 19:38:30
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Bismarck.Inagarten said: »
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I'd be happy with my pet having TH2. RNG gets it. Why can't a THF pet?

RNG gets it on an ability it can use once every 5 minutes.

Oh, hmm. I thought it was one minute. Did they change it?
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By Bismarck.Inagarten 2012-02-02 19:39:04
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My bad, I was looking at something else. It is 1 minute.
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By Valefor.Slore 2012-02-02 19:40:33
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Its 1min but can stack with multiple successful hits
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2012-02-02 19:40:53
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Zanga, what is the point of playing if you're not going to earn gear to enhance your job? That is personally one of the biggest factors of the game outside of spending time with friends for me. Having gear to enhance the TH of jug pets that had TH before and ones that don't currently is good.

Sure! Let's remove some traits from a few jobs, but add gear to some endgame event that gives you those traits back at the expense of using other gear you've already earned!

Let's knock a few Martial Arts traits off MNK or PUP! Maybe some MAB off of BLM! Take Auto-Refresh off PLD and SMN! Take some Evasion Bonus from THF and DNC! Don't worry! You can earn it back! Cool? Of course it is! Enjoy!
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By Valefor.Slore 2012-02-02 19:43:39
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besides mnk all of these jobs get their best bonus from gear, ie blm with mab

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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-02 19:46:09
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
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Zanga, what is the point of playing if you're not going to earn gear to enhance your job? That is personally one of the biggest factors of the game outside of spending time with friends for me. Having gear to enhance the TH of jug pets that had TH before and ones that don't currently is good.

Sure! Let's remove some traits from a few jobs, but add gear to some endgame event that gives you those traits back at the expense of using other gear you've already earned!

Let's knock a few Martial Arts traits off MNK or PUP! Maybe some MAB off of BLM! Take Auto-Refresh off PLD and SMN! Take some Evasion Bonus from THF and DNC! Don't worry! You can earn it back! Cool? Of course it is! Enjoy!
Maybe you missed my post, but TH gear is going to let your other pets have TH as well...

Why is that such a bad thing -.-;;; I'm so confused. You're going to be able to surpass TH3 with the right combination now.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-02 19:47:51
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
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Zanga, what is the point of playing if you're not going to earn gear to enhance your job? That is personally one of the biggest factors of the game outside of spending time with friends for me. Having gear to enhance the TH of jug pets that had TH before and ones that don't currently is good.

Sure! Let's remove some traits from a few jobs, but add gear to some endgame event that gives you those traits back at the expense of using other gear you've already earned!

Let's knock a few Martial Arts traits off MNK or PUP! Maybe some MAB off of BLM! Take Auto-Refresh off PLD and SMN! Take some Evasion Bonus from THF and DNC! Don't worry! You can earn it back! Cool? Of course it is! Enjoy!
Maybe you missed my post, but TH gear is going to let your other pets have TH as well...

Why is that such a bad thing -.-;;; I'm so confused. You're going to be able to surpass TH3 with the right combination now.

you dont know that. dont lie. :P
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:48:30
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...how are you going to be able to surpass TH3 exactly if they only add one piece of Pet TH+ gear?

You don't know how many pieces of gear they're going to implement. They might just add a single piece. They might add 15. You don't know the final value of TH that pets will be able to obtain, so stop acting like all of a sudden pets will be able to get TH4+.
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2012-02-02 19:49:19
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This is a welcome change. BSTs dont bug me in Dynamis persay but it'll get more people out there in different job combinations. Dynamis has become too cookie-cuter anyways.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-02 19:49:30
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But if you sub THF and wear just one piece of this gear that is going to enhance TH you can get TH3 on any pet regardless if they are a THF pet or not :(
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:50:39
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I think if you have TH2 and your pet has TH2, you get TH2.
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By Cerberus.Ica 2012-02-02 19:50:49
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Then you can't be /DNC!
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-02 19:51:00
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
But if you sub THF and wear just one piece of this gear that is going to enhance TH you can get TH3 on any pet regardless if they are a THF pet or not :(

No where does it say that your traits go to your pets. thus your TH2 doesnt go to your pet. nor did they say that Pet TH stacks with normal TH. so i would assume they can get a max of TH2 atm. either subbing THF or getting the "Pet TH+1" equip
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-02 19:51:26
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Cerberus.Ica said: »
Then you can't be /DNC!

so? sacrifice something in order to gain something.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:51:39
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Also, if you sub THF on BST, you don't get JA procs, so the whole point is moot.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-02 19:52:00
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
...how are you going to be able to surpass TH3 exactly if they only add one piece of Pet TH+ gear?

You don't know how many pieces of gear they're going to implement. They might just add a single piece. They might add 15. You don't know the final value of TH that pets will be able to obtain, so stop acting like all of a sudden pets will be able to get TH4+.
Why should people be complaining when they don't know what it will be either :\ that makes no sense!

I thought I said I was leaving wth.

leaving.......
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-02 19:52:24
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Also, if you sub THF on BST, you don't get JA procs, so the whole point is moot.

BST/THF can proc JA. just with bad recast timers. also if you dont like that then fight mobs that get ws procs...
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-02 19:52:47
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People are upset, because "hoping" that when this is implemented it turns out to be better in the long run is a scary proposition considering how SE handles things. Also because Bst is basically useless in VW, and almost certainly will be in Legion if it is anything like einherjar.

So old tired boring as hell content like dynamis was one of the few events where Bst could shine. Now they want to timesink us into getting gear to get back to a level of playability we've been at for some time now.

If it does turn out where we can through work get TH on other pets through gear that will be fantastic. However I will reserve my enthusiasm till after this is implemented.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-02 19:53:11
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
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...how are you going to be able to surpass TH3 exactly if they only add one piece of Pet TH+ gear?

You don't know how many pieces of gear they're going to implement. They might just add a single piece. They might add 15. You don't know the final value of TH that pets will be able to obtain, so stop acting like all of a sudden pets will be able to get TH4+.
Why should people be complaining when they don't know what it will be either :\ that makes no sense!

I thought I said I was leaving wth.

leaving.......

Because everyone QQs when they get news. because they love to cry about everything.
 
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:54:43
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
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Also, if you sub THF on BST, you don't get JA procs, so the whole point is moot.

BST/THF can proc JA. just with bad recast timers. also if you dont like that then fight mobs that get ws procs...

WS procs are not as efficient as JA procs solo.

Anyway, the point is, it's a pretty big hit to BSTs, I'm not saying it isn't merited, but it is a pretty big hit.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-02 19:55:40
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
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Also, if you sub THF on BST, you don't get JA procs, so the whole point is moot.

BST/THF can proc JA. just with bad recast timers. also if you dont like that then fight mobs that get ws procs...

I don't think steal can proc if it misses. I've never landed steal on dyna mobs DNC/THF.
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