‘God Does Not Exist’ Comment Ends Badly

Anyway it works like this:

1.) Kvazz says something about church membership vs. reported religion in Norway
2.) Google "Religion in Norway" or alternatively, Wikipedia it.
3.) Spend 45 seconds skimming article for relevant statistics
4.) Poof! You might as well be an expert.

But I'm sorry, that's an awful lot of effort to expect an American to go through for something that doesn't involve Guidos, cars, or fake breasts.

P.S. Might want to check the person who's been liking my posts.

Hey! I'm American! Don't much like being lumped in with that dude.. Your comment is justified, I just wanted that known..

Wikipedia and other places to read are haard :D
Just wikid this to make sure I were somewhat correct, and it actually lists pretty much exactly the same lol

To be honest, I was more offended that he said "And this means what to an American?" He insulted the entire country with that sentence. It's okay though, he can calculate brake specific fuel consumption for a 99 Eclipse with a 2.0 running a E316G turbo. USEFUL.

And I am offended that you automatically assume that people should know the fine details of your census reporting and should be insulted when asking for clarification.

I'll tell you what though, me being able to calculate BSFC does end up being more useful than knowing the nuances of your census reporting. One gets me a job as a mechanical engineer and the other gets me...well nothing.

Anyways, ontopic.
Do people actually think a law that forces you to choose a religion is ok?

I guess it's good thing I majored in Mathematics then. Also, I'm American.

I can calculate the probability you'll find one religious themed thread here that doesn't after the first page.

It's about the same probability that you can take a full set of playing cards, meaning it has 52 different cards in the deck, shuffle them, deal them out, and every card being the Ace of Spades.. Contrary to logic, it can actually happen, it can be calculated.. You just have to wait so long that it might as well be impossible.. You'll end up waiting millions, even billions of times longer than the Universe is old.

No, but of course, most of us were raised in societies where such laws are not commonplace and frowned upon from a humanist perspective.

In many parts of the world, that's just not the case.

Nope, nothing more to really be said on that. Religion should be a choice, not an obligation.

Well, the Babblefish translator is making it very difficult, but I posted this on their page


And besides a few thank yous, there seems to be a lot of religious fanatics who have taken to my comment to insult the Ateis Minang members, so I am going to say they do think that.

Actually ... assuming a single shuffle ... that probability actually is 0.

I so agree on that.
I don't mind people beeing religious at all, but forcing people to do so is just beyond wrong..
Some places in the world still lives 500-1000 years in the past.

I'd have to go and find it, but yes and no. The probability is 0, because it's the closest number it can be rounded to, but it's not impossible.. It's just so improbable that it might as well be impossible (0 probability) This is of course delving into the world of quantum physics where nothing is set.. Their effects are very small, but over great time, they can have a more perceivable effect on the macro world. So if a dealer in a casino was to sit there and deal out the cards over hundred's of billions of years, and just kept dealing forever, eventually, with no funny business, he would deal out nothing but Ace of Spades.

500-1000 years is putting it back a little far.
France, for example, didn't have guaranteed freedom of religion until 1789. (Notable because, today, the French are known for being adamant about secularism in public affairs.)

Ok well yeah, but still, in the past! :<

I can't understand all because I think that's Minang regional dialect on the 1st and 3rd line.
2nd line literally means 'From where does the air you breath?'


I remembered that there's a line from the education of the morality of Pancasila (the philosophical foundation of this country) that you must pick one of the 5 states approved religion(Confucianism wasn't admitted at one back then). Whether it's a line from constitution or something that government has right to enforce it, I don't remember.

If you mean with a single shuffle, you can only deal out 52 cards, and you can only deal out A1 once.

If you mean the cards are reshuffled every time you deal a single card, infinitely, yes, a finite subsequence of A1s that "appears" infinite in universal terms is practically guaranteed by the law of large numbers.

Still, lim 1/52^n = 0, so for a truly infinite sequence of Ace of Spades, the probability is still 0.

I have been kind of piecing it together from other people's response, it appears that it is serious of arguments about how God has to exist or that if you don't believe in religion you are a "stupid idiot son of a dog."

A fine example of the hatred and violence stemming from religion and how it is used as a means of controlling a population.

Very hard to keep up with them, but newsworthy stuff I can find is that they aren't accusing the police of the brutality, that the police weren't the ones who beat him, but rather a mob of people, but that the police took him in protective custody is a lie.

Well, yes, that's what Eddie said there, while Ery is being spelling nazi there (in a humorous tone)

what if all religion started this way?! O.o

ok so like, it says in the beginning there was a creator and a group of winged flying monkies whom flew around his hang out. so amongst days of partying, one tool amongst tools of the flying monkies decided, "hey, im better than god, im hot, i get laid nightly, i can easily do his job."

one of the fellow flying monkies was like, "OH HELL NA, O NO U DI'INT LUCY." as so he pulled off his glove and slapped lucifer and challenged him to a gentleman's duel. they both took up their lightsabers, took ten paces east and west, and on the count of three chucked them at one another. lucifer deftly dodged, and impaled his rival in the dome.

god took wind of this, and was like, "WHAT THE *** IS GOING ON IN HERE?" 85% of the monkies pointed fingers at lucifer and god was all, "GET YOUR DUMB *** OUT OF MY BAR." and kicked his *** to earth.

and so, over a thousand years or so, so his peeps claim, god and lucy have been playing IRL call o duty with each other. god dropping tactical nukes, lucy throwing out nerve gas, guns flying, nades everywhere.... and god is finally fed up, and says "*** this ***."

so god sends his new team mate, JC1225, down with scavenger pro (to make a zombie army by scavenging souls), commando pro (because people follow jesus' 10 commandos right?), and last stand pro (because after 3 days of being down he finally gets back up). along with JC he sends down of his most 12 badass snipers, riflemen, and gunners to bust some baddies *** all over galilee(sp?).

hundreds more years go by, we have modern day armageddon, lucy with his zombies, and raptor jesus and his dinosaurs and transformers, fighting for the fate of mankind. its your choice, join optimus prime, who died for your sins, or burn with the fire of lucy, but remember if you do, you have a lot of splainin to do if you die (hurrhurr).

I just tried to read through this article I translated and it looks like they are now trying to find out who is posting as the owner of the Facebook group now.

Apparently the group has been making people upset for years and that they had been trying to find out who made it for awhile, and recently through community style investigation (think 4chan style lynch mob) they were able to determine it was Alexander Aan. From what I can gather is it seems like his recent comments as an excuse to arrest him was just that, an excuse, that the community desired he be arrested a long time ago and the group shut down.

Nope, I mean all the cards dealt out are Aces.. Not just a series of Aces.. When you want to get into the Quantum world, you have to let go of common sense.. (I've seriously got to go to bed, if you want to discuss it more, PM me, and we can discuss it, and I'll try to find what I was talking about) and how we look at the world as it is.. Quantum mechanics has been through (probably) the most rigorous testing ever put to any theory for well over 50 years now.. It has never once even came close to being proven wrong.. The reason it's been challenged so much, is it just doesn't make any sense to us. For example particles can be tangled and act like relays, when there's absolutely nothing connecting them (quantum entanglement) there is no real way to explain this behavior.. Einstein called it spooky action at a distance.

What seems impossible, is only highly improbable.. Nothing is impossible. When something isn't impossible, it's then just a matter of time and chance until that thing happens..

Hard to really understand, but then quantum anything is hard to actually understand, the most brilliant scientists in the world will tell you they don't really understand it.. But the Earth could turn into a sun tomorrow, you could sprout wings and fly, my legs could inexplicably turn to stone and water could turn into the lightest element on the face of the Earth and just float away.

As long as quantum physics is right, nothing we know, is 'set'.. The probability of all that is just so damned unlikely that we don't really have to worry about it.. It doesn't mean it can't happen.

Well since his own wall post isn't open to public, I can't exactly know what he says to public(friends?)
ADD : It might be as simple as 'God does not exist'.
Heck, one of my friend ever wrote something similar. Now I'm worried what will happen to him if more people discovered it.
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http://www.detiknews.com/read/2012/01/20/155251/1821163/10/alexander-ateis-sejak-kelas-iv-sd

According to this, he picked Islam in his citizenship card for not being controversial. But when the reporter asked him the same question he replied with Atheism.

Slip I simply cannot wrap my head around that o.o

Quantum mechanics doesn't apply well to macroscopic systems. Nothing in quantum mechanics allows a set of 52 cards to "transmogrify" into a different set of 52 cards spontaneously.

You'd be better off saying "rolling a die infinitely and getting a 1 every time."

The probability of that is lim n->Inf (1/6^n) = 0, but it's theoretically POSSIBLE (nothing in mathematics or physics precludes it), so in probability theory we call this "almost never" or "improbable."

What you're currently saying is that it's possible for me to shuffle a single blue card into a deck of red cards, and deal out a deck of blue cards containing a single red card. That's not quantum mechanics or probability theory, that's just absurdity.