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 Bahamut.Krizz
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-19 17:51:14
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Assets that will be seized:
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-01-19 17:52:42
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Now they're going a little too far...
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By Artemicion 2012-01-19 17:53:42
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Assets relevant or necessarily pinpointed to revenue gained from illegal activity will require a lengthy degree of investigation.
But then again, govt seems to be on a good spree of shooting first and asking questions later.

After all, MegaUpload's purpose was not exclusively for hosting copyrighted material. It was still a massive public host for various content that isn't subject to copyright.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-19 17:54:11
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wtf...... lol


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Anyone else think that if they attack people who support SOPA that it will probably counter what the protesting has done?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-01-19 17:54:38
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Those are some really stupid license plates.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-01-19 17:54:39
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Better enjoy the internet before those corporations carve it up amongst themselves.

And yes, I know that this was going to happen eventually but it won't stop with taking down websites because they know another megaupload will rise to replace this one.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-19 17:54:55
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Oh man, I hope the SEO bit they're talking about is along the lines of the Santorum issue.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-19 17:56:02
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Better enjoy the internet before those corporations carve it up amongst themselves.

And yes, I know that this was going to happen eventually but it won't stop with taking down websites because they know another megaupload will rise to replace this one.

The only real answer is a civilian run internet. /shrug
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-19 17:56:36
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Better enjoy the internet before those corporations carve it up amongst themselves.

And yes, I know that this was going to happen eventually but it won't stop with taking down websites because they know another megaupload will rise to replace this one.
Other megavideo at least:

http://www.videozer.com/premium.php
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By Artemicion 2012-01-19 17:56:39
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
wtf...... lol


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Anyone else think that if they attack people who support SOPA that it will probably counter what the protesting has done?

Indeed. Retaliation in this form will only undermine our relative success of public backlash.
If anything it gives the supporters ammo to further support their cause.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-01-19 17:56:46
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I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-19 17:57:36
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
wtf...... lol


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Anyone else think that if they attack people who support SOPA that it will probably counter what the protesting has done?
It definitely won't help.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-19 17:59:17
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
I'm not afraid of my government.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-19 18:00:09
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?
They blatantly distributed files illegally. They intentionally attempted to hide it by doing things such as purposely not listing illegal files in their top 100. They broke the law. They were well aware what they were doing was illegal. They deserve no sympathy.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-19 18:00:17
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I'm not afraid of my government: I'm afraid that this will give news sites an excuse to say "Look, those anti-SOPA PIPA people are resorting to terrorist attacks on our internets!"

And then NDAA detention.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-19 18:00:20
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
TPB guys got arrested several times and they never could get anything on them successfully and the site just went back up right after they were released.
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-19 18:01:39
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
Who said it's okay for either? I'm glad it happened because I hate Megavideo, that doesn't mean I think it's okay. I'm just tired of seeing them linked, if they're gone, then there won't be any more links to them to inconvenience me.

That said, Krizz made a good point when he pointed out the part he stopped feeling sorry for them.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-01-19 18:02:02
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Oh no, not the files.

There's a reason anyone that can afford a lawyer beats the RIAA in court.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-19 18:02:39
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Psycho Slip said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
Who said it's okay for either? I'm glad it happened because I hate Megavideo, that doesn't mean I think it's okay. I'm just tired of seeing them linked, if they're gone, then there won't be any more links to them to inconvenience me.

That said, Krizz made a good point when he pointed out the part he stopped feeling sorry for them.
Instead everyone is going to link you to VideoZer instead lol
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By Artemicion 2012-01-19 18:02:53
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?
They blatantly distributed files illegally. They intentionally attempted to hide it by doing things such as purposely not listing illegal files in their top 100. They broke the law. They were well aware what they were doing was illegal. They deserve no sympathy.

While the above is true, I think they deserve some fairness as well.
Instilling the guillotine to cut off the site as a whole seems to be an overkill solution, as does arresting the owners and administration rather than collectively targeting the infringing content and users that would be considered repeat offenders.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-01-19 18:03:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
I'm not afraid of my government: I'm afraid that this will give news sites an excuse to say "Look, those anti-SOPA PIPA people are resorting to terrorist attacks on our internets!"

And then NDAA detention.

The Government obtaining an excuse to trick the halfwits into thinking SOPA is okay is just a means to an end, if Anonymous doesn't provide it then someone else will.

The bills will be passed and they will be for your own good and you will want them.
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-19 18:04:12
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
Who said it's okay for either? I'm glad it happened because I hate Megavideo, that doesn't mean I think it's okay. I'm just tired of seeing them linked, if they're gone, then there won't be any more links to them to inconvenience me.

That said, Krizz made a good point when he pointed out the part he stopped feeling sorry for them.
Instead everyone is going to link you to VideoZer instead lol
They already do that, and VideoBB, Megavideo going down is just one less url I have to read and say "lolnope" to..
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By Zeyphr 2012-01-19 18:04:41
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What i don't get is why they decided to shut down Megaupload now. It wasn't exactly a secretive site, it was right in your face.. If they were so serious about stopping Piracy, they would of shut down almost every site without a word of thought. Just don't make much sense to me..
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-19 18:04:52
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?
They blatantly distributed files illegally. They intentionally attempted to hide it by doing things such as purposely not listing illegal files in their top 100. They broke the law. They were well aware what they were doing was illegal. They deserve no sympathy.

While the above is true, I think they deserve some fairness as well.
Instilling the guillotine to cut off the site as a whole seems to be an overkill solution, as does arresting the owners and administration rather than collectively targeting the infringing contents and users that would be considered repeat offenders.

I agree with both of you to an extent.

As a person who creates websites, I should not have to fear that the government will go after me when I make tools that users can misuse.

If a kid gets hit by a car, we don't sue Toyota.

When someone is using a pickaxe and breaks their foot, we don't sue Black and Decker.
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By Artemicion 2012-01-19 18:05:31
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Psycho Slip said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
Who said it's okay for either? I'm glad it happened because I hate Megavideo, that doesn't mean I think it's okay. I'm just tired of seeing them linked, if they're gone, then there won't be any more links to them to inconvenience me.

That said, Krizz made a good point when he pointed out the part he stopped feeling sorry for them.
Instead everyone is going to link you to VideoZer instead lol
They already do that, and VideoBB, Megavideo going down is just one less url I have to read and say "lolnope" to..

I'm confused. What exactly is inconveniencing you in relation to Mega Upload?
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-19 18:05:47
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Zeyphr said: »
What i don't get is why they decided to shut down Megaupload now. It wasn't exactly a secretive site, it was right in your face.. If they were so serious about stopping Piracy, they would of shut down almost every site without a word of thought. Just don't make much sense to me..
I don't think the timing is an accident.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-19 18:06:19
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?
They blatantly distributed files illegally. They intentionally attempted to hide it by doing things such as purposely not listing illegal files in their top 100. They broke the law. They were well aware what they were doing was illegal. They deserve no sympathy.

While the above is true, I think they deserve some fairness as well.
Instilling the guillotine to cut off the site as a whole seems to be an overkill solution, as does arresting the owners and administration rather than collectively targeting the infringing contents and users that would be considered repeat offenders.
If they made an honest attempt to take care of the problem, that would be different. They purposely excluded a clause in their policy concerning repeat offenders. Guess what? That is part of the Safe Harbor provision.
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By Artemicion 2012-01-19 18:06:38
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Zeyphr said: »
What i don't get is why they decided to shut down Megaupload now. It wasn't exactly a secretive site, it was right in your face.. If they were so serious about stopping Piracy, they would of shut down almost every site without a word of thought. Just don't make much sense to me..

Probably because they had a case to build and they had enough evidence to act upon it. Meanwhile more prolific sites like youtube and whatnot have been at court with companies like Viacom and WMG for years, and have more or less faced a deadlock.

Though it's absolutely no coincidence they decide to do it the moment after the SOPA/PIPA protests.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-19 18:07:43
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Maybe this is an example of what SOPA and PIPA would be like if they passed :P...

I'm not saying that this is what that is lol, I'm just saying it as an example.
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Artemicion said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'm confused why you consider it okay for the Government to shut down Megaupload and not for Anonymous to shut down websites in response?

The Federal Government has no more legal rights in this matter than a guy on his laptop. You can argue that "they aren't helping the situation" but they shouldn't have to be in that situation to begin with. You should be asking yourself what the Government is doing wrong and not what a group of citizens is doing wrong to the Government.

You shouldn't have to be afraid of your Government violating your Constitution and violating your rights and you damn well should not be afraid of the consequences of standing up to said Government in response to those things.
Who said it's okay for either? I'm glad it happened because I hate Megavideo, that doesn't mean I think it's okay. I'm just tired of seeing them linked, if they're gone, then there won't be any more links to them to inconvenience me.

That said, Krizz made a good point when he pointed out the part he stopped feeling sorry for them.
Instead everyone is going to link you to VideoZer instead lol
They already do that, and VideoBB, Megavideo going down is just one less url I have to read and say "lolnope" to..

I'm confused. What exactly is inconveniencing you in relation to Mega Upload?
Megavideo is part of Megaupload, Megaupload goes down, so does Megavideo. A good chunk of the links posted in the site I go to for links to TV/Movies end up posting links to Megavideo.

Now I don't have to scroll through half a forum page looking for links that aren't Megavideo.
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