[dev1047] New Battle System: Legion

Well how about the more ppl you have from your LS the bigger chance loot will benefit YOUR LS? beat others lots then bid stuff among ur ppl w/ points if your LS has a point system >.>a

Hmmm indeed.

We get it. Some people don't like big linkshells for one reason or another. Others love big linkshells. Don't like em', don't join em'. Don't like the 1 event, don't do it!

Deathga w/17 friends > Deathga w/3~4 friends.

You guys should check Yathatguy's ls system, take notes and put it in practice.
I say it as a neutral, I'm not in that ls and i don't have any business with him, but that system is just that awesome.
If i ever have to go back to a linkshell to get stuff done, i hope i can find something like that or similar on my time schedule.

Ls banks lead to corruption and they aren't needed at all nowadays.
Fund the event(If needed), sell the stuff, get your money back and split the rest between the people that was there, isn't that hard.
People will know what to do to improve theirselves with their money better than any leader that wants to keep it to run events, buy cursed gears, etc.
Actually, you don't need a a bank to run events succesfully.
Let's see what this legion crap does to the game, but i hope that it doesn't bring the old system back.

Also, i had to say it, lol@ that LS that is taking away/stealing from their members even Woe drops to fund a bank, lol.

Dude, there's something you may not understand. If an alliance of 18 makes 1 million in sellables after an event, that is 55,555 per person. If YOU actually have the time to sell the stuff, then give 18 people 55,555 after EACH EVENT, more power to you. I don't want to spend my gaming life in trade windows. It is an annoyance. I certainly don't want to do it for 50k gil. My LS members would actually LAUGH at me if I chased them down to give them 50k gil a few times a week. That is why we use a bank and do payouts once every couple months or so, keeping a minimum balance for Ein (now Legion), and sky/sea pops because the people in my LS hate farming sky/sea and just want to do Kirin/AV. I don't buy Cursed Gears, no idea where you got that from.


No, it's not to directly fund a bank. It's to negate the randomness of WoE/VW and make all non-rare/ex drops lottable through DKP. If you are happy doing WoE and VW and ending up with endless logs, more power to you Arcalimo! I know people who spammed WoE/VW for weeks trying to get BLM scrolls. On one of my LS's runs, if ANYBODY in the alliance had the Scroll appear in their chest on ANY run, the BLM mainlots would have walked away with a new spell. First time we did the T4 Beetle, a melee walked away with a Brego Gloves. First time we did the T4 Book, our mages were swimming in Witful Belts. First time we cleared WoE 15 Caturae flux, unfortunately nothing dropped. But next time maybe something will. And they get to spend DKP, not pay 2,000,000 when the item is brand-new on the AH. Essentially, we made VW/WoE a shared pool event for non-rare/ex items, while still reimbursing the person who offers an item up from their chest with a percentage. Perhaps what I forgot to mention is that the LS voted to have this system, because they hate VW loot system as much as I do.

Do you understand the rationale yet, or still think I hatched a secret plan to steal drops, fund the LS bank and run away with it? Jesus, the fear-mongering....some of the people in this thread would be right at home in 16th century Salem.

Gimme a pearl D:

Go to our website then tell that marine to get his *** back in game.

so i didnt see it when i read through the last couple pages but i thought they put this in the test server already. anyone put up any info yet?

This morning the Japanese playerbase had an event on the test server where the community reps logged on the game and took everyone through Legion explaining details about how to do it and fought some monsters there.

You can read more here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20164-Test-Server-Official-Legion-Event-Tonight

Some NA Players were able to join in and tag along, here are some quotes:


List of enemies:


More importantly, the NA team is interested in doing it as well. If you would like for the NA team to have an event as well please log in on the official forums and request it!

01-27-2012 12:47 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	Heya This was an activity setup by our Japanese Community Team counterparts to show off the Legion content with some guidance as well as give players an opportunity to experience Legion in a large party setting. We are also looking into doing this for our English speaking players in the near future, so if you are really interested in participating please let us know
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If the time will be feasible for me, I'll be there.

The event was at 3-5 AM CST, which would be.... 6-9 PM JST...right?

I would assume that would be the time during PST hours, or 9-12 PM EST.

I would think they would lower it for EST coast though to have a middle ground so it isn't so late for them.

I am so going....

01-31-2012 02:25 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	Based on feedback received from players that participated on the test server meet-up the other day, the development team is planning some adjustments to the Legion system. While a number of ideas are being looked into, I’d like to let you know about the battle related changes first. *We will make some announcements about aspects other than battle in the future, so please wait a bit for those. Adjustments to special ability AoE Planning to reduce the effect range for AoE special abilities. Working currently to have this changed reflected in this week’s test server update. Changes to make it possible to try again after a wipe We will be performing two adjustments, which will create an area that will be safe from monsters as well as reducing monsters’ detection range. *There will be no changes to link range. These adjustments are planned to be implemented during next week’s test server update. Please try out these changes once the test server is updated and let us know your thoughts!
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Update on topic today:

Update on topic today:

Q: My Valoredge automaton receives 300-400 damage from normal attacks, so this content is extremely difficult for me.
A: Thank you for providing us detailed statistics. We will use this as reference when evaluating potential adjustments. By the way, what was your enemy?

lol


Q: I feel like it is very difficult to lot on items during the battle, since we are very busy during battle and some players may be dead.
A: We are looking into allowing players to cast raise on defeated players as soon as every monster that has appeared is defeated.

......?

So many players having problems using the treasure pool... just... *sigh*...

I don't even know what to say to that. It's not that difficult to open a menu and click enter twice to lot something and check after each boss is defeated...

Maybe if you killed 30 things within 30 minutes... but they are having problems with just 6?

I don't know what to say...

^ ...what?

I normally don't gripe on people with bad English but, I genuinely cannot decipher what you're saying sir.


YEA KAL TALKIN' ABOUT YOU, YOU'VE BUTCHERED OUR LANGUAGE >:C

.....what?

And for the record, i think this guy's complaint says legion has the same loot system as VW, and it for sure, does not..

Aaand it's gone. Now it looks like "what" to kal D: poor kal

That's some hardcore Engrish leetspeak lol...also gross generalization.

Took a nap, and now it so looks like I've missed something.

/confused >.>;

My only problems with what is proposed (I haven't tried this content or anything) is that lotting will likely end up a lot like dynamis of old such that run after run you might not even see the item you're looking for and when it does finally show up you have competition from not only the 3 or 4 other people on the applicable job, but from virtually every other player since most players have a lot of jobs leveled (and some people are just loot ***). I thought they were preemptively remedying this with the legion points since they said that you could save up for an item that repeatedly eluded you, but then they took that back and said it will be an entirely different set of items that you buy (not terrible necessarily, but a let down for the unlucky among us).

Feedback from the feedback event:

02-16-2012 01:31 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	To everyone that made it out to our Legion test server event, thanks so much! It was a lot of fun We definitely hope to do it again soon, so if you missed out on last week’s event, try and come out for a future test server event! We passed off all the feedback that you submitted and below are some comments from the development team in regards to some points we have seen mentioned. BGM While it might be a bit difficult to get a totally brand-new BGM in right away, it might be possible to have something similar to Moblin Maze Mongers where you can select your BGM from a list of tracks upon entry. We will be proactively looking into this. Safe spot We are currently adjusting the pathing range and detection range, so there will be a safe spot; however, in cases where you use the entire battlefield to fight, it may be difficult to get positioned properly. You’ll be able to recognize the spot where the monsters won’t come by looking at their behavior when their name turns yellow after a wipe. Time interval after defeating a wave of monsters We’ve read some comments asking to quickly spawn the next set of monsters since time is of the essence. It’s definitely possible to adjust the time; however, this will ultimately reduce the time where you can recast buffs and recover MP, so this really depends on how many requests there are for this. As a side note, we do not have any plans of fully restoring HP/MP when the first wave is defeated. Legion Points There were some comments saying that 10 points for one kill is too low. The points that you receive are not a static value. The point values actually go up as you kill more enemies, starting with 10 points for 1 kill, 20 points for 2 kills, and 30 points for 3 kills. Clearing the first wave of monsters you would get 60 points and by defeating the second wave you would get a total 210 points. As a guideline we are planning so that if you are able to defeat one wave of monsters in each of the four halls as well as the fifth hall and do this twice, you will have enough points to exchange them for an item. As the development team works on adjusting the system and we prep for the next test server event, please continue to submit your feedback
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02-21-2012 02:15 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	Howdy! I wanted to let you all know about some plans for Legion in regards to loot. In addition to the items you can see on the test server currently, we are planning to add materials for new synthesis recipes (*) that will be added. (Synthesis materials that were dropping were not very desirable and they have been removed.) 　　 One more thing, in regards to various equipment stats. There are items that we have been revamping a little bit. I don’t want to get anyone’s hopes up for game breaking stats, so please consider these slightly reworked items, but nothing that will make them into a completely different item.　 　 *I will be letting you all know some information related to synthesis soon.
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