[dev1065] Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Weapon Upgrades
[dev1065] Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Weapon Upgrades
You know some dumbfuck will actually put their linkshell and themselves through making one of these afterglow weapons. This has got to be the worst reward:effort in the history of anything.
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Tanaka said:
Relic/Mythic/Empy-player-base said:
Siren.Kalilla said: »
01-17-2012 07:25 PM
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| Hello Insaniac! I forwarded your question to the dev. team and they informed me that there are no plans in making the stats and the weapon skill damage different between the two stages of the weapons. The difference between the two will be the afterglow and the visual effect. I hope that helps clear some confusion!  | |||
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LOL...
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makes me sad ; ; i want a blue-glowing ranger! but 500 PW... >_>
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Just gonna leave this here, since if it wasn't coming already (which it was), it is now in earnest.
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Afterglow trials wouldn't be so terrible if it required kills instead of drops.
You could easily set up a PW LS that did nothing but farm zeni and kill PW. Everyone in LS would benefit by getting their Stage 2 uber glowing graphics. That's not going to happen.
SE doesn't realize they can no longer seperate newbs from vets. If they make it possible for vets to attain something, newbs will follow. U
But making it items based just shows SE didn't think this through.
At the very least, make the items bazarable or even sellable on the AH, like heavy metal.
You could easily set up a PW LS that did nothing but farm zeni and kill PW. Everyone in LS would benefit by getting their Stage 2 uber glowing graphics. That's not going to happen.
SE doesn't realize they can no longer seperate newbs from vets. If they make it possible for vets to attain something, newbs will follow. U
But making it items based just shows SE didn't think this through.
At the very least, make the items bazarable or even sellable on the AH, like heavy metal.
Blazed1979 said: »
Afterglow trials wouldn't be so terrible if it required kills instead of drops.
You could easily set up a PW LS that did nothing but farm zeni and kill PW. Everyone in LS would benefit by getting their Stage 2 uber glowing graphics. That's not going to happen.
SE doesn't realize they can no longer seperate newbs from vets. If they make it possible for vets to attain something, newbs will follow. U
But making it items based just shows SE didn't think this through.
At the very least, make the items bazarable or even sellable on the AH, like heavy metal.
You could easily set up a PW LS that did nothing but farm zeni and kill PW. Everyone in LS would benefit by getting their Stage 2 uber glowing graphics. That's not going to happen.
SE doesn't realize they can no longer seperate newbs from vets. If they make it possible for vets to attain something, newbs will follow. U
But making it items based just shows SE didn't think this through.
At the very least, make the items bazarable or even sellable on the AH, like heavy metal.
Phoenix.Darkzeru said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
Afterglow trials wouldn't be so terrible if it required kills instead of drops. You could easily set up a PW LS that did nothing but farm zeni and kill PW. Everyone in LS would benefit by getting their Stage 2 uber glowing graphics. That's not going to happen. SE doesn't realize they can no longer seperate newbs from vets. If they make it possible for vets to attain something, newbs will follow. U But making it items based just shows SE didn't think this through. At the very least, make the items bazarable or even sellable on the AH, like heavy metal.
The point is changing the trial to kills would allow multiple people to benefit everytime it was killed, the way it is right now is the mob drops 1 item that can be used by 1 person.
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01-19-2012 07:53 PM
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| I’d like to share the developers’ thoughts and plan for these new trials and upgrades. When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this. On the other hand, as some of you have already mentioned, the second stage of these weapon enhancements is left for those players who wish to go above and beyond—the “completionists” so to speak. This is why there will be no difference in weapon skill damage or other stats and only an AoE benefit as well as a special effect will be given for completing this upgrade. | |||
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What I don't understand is...
Why waste time, money, and manpower on something so silly and useless. I would have rather that been spent on a different project.
Some people will put their entire ls through the horrific grind to get that stage done.
To almost everyone else, it's just stupid.
To almost everyone else, it's just stupid.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
01-19-2012 07:53 PM
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| I’d like to share the developers’ thoughts and plan for these new trials and upgrades. When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this. On the other hand, as some of you have already mentioned, the second stage of these weapon enhancements is left for those players who wish to go above and beyond—the “completionists” so to speak. This is why there will be no difference in weapon skill damage or other stats and only an AoE benefit as well as a special effect will be given for completing this upgrade. | |||
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What I don't understand is...
Why waste time, money, and manpower on something so silly and useless. I would have rather that been spent on a different project.
because your not a completionist... nuff said. don't judge ppl who when they get their pretty colors say "Oh nice (Insert weapon here) too bad you can't see in dark tunnels like me and my superior flashlight weapon"
Also note that while under the affect of *Pretty colors* you will not be able to become invisible or sneak around. Thus everything aggros you
now that last part is fine for me. because im so leet that i actually aggro mobs. they dont aggro me.
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It's ridiculously stupid no matter which way it's turned. The trials are pointless and serve nothing other than to annoy entire groups of people that will inevitably be sheep and help one person finish their weapon over the next 2-4 years.
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This is just wrong.
Mainly because, in freaking 2012, games like this entertain a wider audience of people:
Mainly because, in freaking 2012, games like this entertain a wider audience of people:
Anyone who tries to force their shell to do 500 pw for them deserves to be abandoned.
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I had 3 ideas in my head in anticipation of the Lv.99 weapons.
1) You would need 2 out of the 3 Relic/Mythic/Empy weapons in order to get the Lv.99 Own-Face-ga weapon. The Magian trial would combine them into something awesome. (Insert S-E troll face here.)
2) They would actually change the weaponskill. Since all of the Relic WSs are 1 hit, I was hoping they'd add some awesome looking flourish that includes extra hits to up the damage.
3) Lv.99 would require something from each stage of the weapon's progress. So for a Relic you would need one of the weapons you traded in Stage 2, an Attestation, a Fragment, and then something new. Just in case I already have Attestations for my Great Katana and Scythe, and the Fragment for Great Katana in my Storage.
1) You would need 2 out of the 3 Relic/Mythic/Empy weapons in order to get the Lv.99 Own-Face-ga weapon. The Magian trial would combine them into something awesome. (Insert S-E troll face here.)
2) They would actually change the weaponskill. Since all of the Relic WSs are 1 hit, I was hoping they'd add some awesome looking flourish that includes extra hits to up the damage.
3) Lv.99 would require something from each stage of the weapon's progress. So for a Relic you would need one of the weapons you traded in Stage 2, an Attestation, a Fragment, and then something new. Just in case I already have Attestations for my Great Katana and Scythe, and the Fragment for Great Katana in my Storage.
Actually, it'd probably be something as simple as Straight DL kills, but something to bring the relics creation aspect back would be an interesting trial.
I think it's going to be exactly the same as what was originally planned, just lower numbers.
99 NQ trials according to JP test server are:
20 Umbral marrow for Relics(20 ADL drops)
10 Mulcibar's Scoria for Mythics(PW drops)
60 Riftdross/Riftcinder for Empyreans
Because 20 Arch dynamis lord drops are completable by an average player, yeah ok SE. *** you.
20 Umbral marrow for Relics(20 ADL drops)
10 Mulcibar's Scoria for Mythics(PW drops)
60 Riftdross/Riftcinder for Empyreans
Because 20 Arch dynamis lord drops are completable by an average player, yeah ok SE. *** you.
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
99 NQ trials according to JP test server are:
20 Umbral marrow for Relics(20 ADL drops)
10 Mulcibar's Scoria for Mythics(PW drops)
60 Riftdross/Riftcinder for Empyreans
Because 20 Arch dynamis lord drops are completable by an average player, yeah ok SE. *** you.
20 Umbral marrow for Relics(20 ADL drops)
10 Mulcibar's Scoria for Mythics(PW drops)
60 Riftdross/Riftcinder for Empyreans
Because 20 Arch dynamis lord drops are completable by an average player, yeah ok SE. *** you.
yea i saw this, told my ls...theymad lol.
i like the suggestion one guy said, that it should be kills not items. that way getting people together to kill ADL would be a lot more realistic rather than getting 18 people together for 1 person. lol.
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Seriously, do they want to encourage people to loot *** drops or something? I'd rather 100 kills than 20 drops easily.
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Well the game is based on timers so ofcourse they'd pick the longest method.
Don't you know how it works drama? When they show you the big, black, razor blade covered ***, you are supposed to respond; "Yes SE, how far must I shove it?"
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Because 20 Arch dynamis lord drops are completable by an average player, yeah ok SE. *** you.
Agreed. My rage commences. What a steaming load.
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Josiahkf said: »
this is the only way they can keep the item sellable/bazaarable and people time sink more into farming to pay inflated prices at their leisure For some reason, who knows why they slowly decided all trials need to be rolanberryized. woe first and empy with heavy metal and now relic trials too bleh
"Game balance" means "make it so all the old Japanese players with maxed gil can buy everything they want at will." Didn't you know that?
IF I did not read correctly , the items listed above are for the 95-99? then what is it for the afterglow?
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