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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-01-31 23:39:40
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Yeah, because you know, telling them that something they are trying to put into the game isnt fun and we much rather have something that is fun,is just totally wrong right?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-31 23:42:07
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I do like how they deleted a 600+ post discussion about how their system sucks balls with no warning or explanation despite nearly unanimous popular opinion within said thread from their customers.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-01-31 23:52:42
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Yeah, that right there is pretty much the signal "we will do what we want, and you can just deal with it"
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By Sylph.Knala 2012-01-31 23:56:08
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99 trial for mythic should be loads easier after they implement this zeni update they said was in the works, if your not familiar they are thinking of increasing zeni yield per plate 10x

that and HOPEFULLY nyzul 2.0 with added alex drops will actually create a stable supply of alexandrite i still dont get why they never lowered the over all cost for mythics, they require a much larger quantity of currency with no refund at the end, droped from an event which is done rarely at best and at a rate which is much lower then ancient currency.

If they are that worried about alienating those peeps who did the trial at a higher currency cost they could offer a 1 week grace period after implementation where a mythic holder can visit a magian moogle for a partial rebate or something.

I realize that's unrealistic just due to the fact that would create a flood in alex supply anyways i'ma hang it up for the night.
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-02-01 00:11:35
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
If you don't like it, you can quit the game, or just play the game and enjoy doing new content with friends? Peace.

I really do get tried of hearing that, most of us have put in alot of yrs and money in this game and arent going to just quit cause se likes to do stupid ***.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 00:15:58
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Well, if you are going to quit, at least recoup some of that money, is all ill say.
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By Sylph.Knala 2012-02-01 00:16:27
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Besides why do we have to quit because their proctologists suck? we are the customers and at least the consensus on the official forums is change it, i have a strong urge to quote spankwustler in response to the "deal with it" "then quit" "stop qq'n" responces.
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By Carbuncle.Seankp 2012-02-01 01:12:21
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They deleted my "Thread deleted?" thread and banned me.

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You have been banned for the following reason:
Your posted message is unrelated to objectives of the thread. Your login to the forum is temporarily suspended. Please try and log in at a later time. Also, please see the forum guideline again to use the forums properly and comfortably.

Date the ban will be lifted: 02-01-2012, 04:00 AM

How can my message be unrelated to objectives of the thread when the only post in the thread by me was the one opening the thread itself... so stupid.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-01 01:14:59
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I find it amusing that they deleted (all?) of their own posts on the subject just to make it appear that people weren't pissed about it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-01 01:15:24
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Um... what

Second worst forum moderation that I've ever seen. They didn't even fabricate a reason that makes sense.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:17:08
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Just pathetic at this point. Why have an official forum?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-01 01:21:47
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Someone should go ask what the empyrean/relic/mythic 99 trial requirements are.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-01 01:23:02
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I wish they'd delete the coruscanti thread, then at least we'd know they'd seen it.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:23:22
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And then promptly get banned, lol.
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By Odin.Graywind 2012-02-01 01:26:18
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There are people that are ok with things the way they are, there are people that have accepted the way the thing ultimately ended up, there are people that are extremely upset with how everything has played out. Simply put "you cannot please all the people all the time, you can please some of the people some of the time."


Edit: this was posted later in the thread than I would have liked, oh well..
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By Carbuncle.Seankp 2012-02-01 01:26:19
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Here is a pic of the ban.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-02-01 01:28:40
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Odin.Graywind said: »
There are people that are ok with things the way they are, there are people that have accepted the way the thing ultimately ended up, there are people that are extremely upset with how everything has played out. Simply put "you cannot please all the people all the time, you can please some of the people some of the time."


Edit: this was posted later in the thread than I would have liked, oh well..

sure you can't please them all, but wouldn't you want to please the most?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:30:41
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SE's goal is the piss off as many people as possible for some reason.
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By Odin.Graywind 2012-02-01 01:33:26
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Are you certain it's most though? just because you have a spam of rage and hate doesn't mean that it's the majority thought. From my experience you rarely see people make a legitimate "I liked this product because of this, this, this, and this" post on things, because it would cause them to go out of their way and make a rating, people are more prone to post something to complain about it for some reason than to say it's good. I have no idea where the thread that got deleted ended up, because part way through reading it was when it got deleted, so I'm not even sure what was there.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:36:16
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I don't like to assume that just because a person doesn't speak up, means that they are happy.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-02-01 01:37:56
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Odin.Graywind said: »
Are you certain it's most though? just because you have a spam of rage and hate doesn't mean that it's the majority thought. From my experience you rarely see people make a legitimate "I liked this product because of this, this, this, and this" post on things, because it would cause them to go out of their way and make a rating, people are more prone to post something to complain about it for some reason than to say it's good. I have no idea where the thread that got deleted ended up, because part way through reading it was when it got deleted, so I'm not even sure what was there.

Was 95% complaints, but unless something amazing happened within the last 10 hours, there was nothing over the top. There was absolutely no reason to delete it.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-02-01 01:38:03
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Odin.Graywind said: »
Are you certain it's most though? just because you have a spam of rage and hate doesn't mean that it's the majority thought. From my experience you rarely see people make a legitimate "I liked this product because of this, this, this, and this" post on things, because it would cause them to go out of their way and make a rating, people are more prone to post something to complain about it for some reason than to say it's good. I have no idea where the thread that got deleted ended up, because part way through reading it was when it got deleted, so I'm not even sure what was there.

600 post thread, general consensus was that trial should be changed / altered in someway.

incredible amount of information and reasoning of why it should be changed.

there was a bit of QQ and hate inbetween the people actually trying to talk about it though.

while i'm not sure that 90% of the people dislike the idea, either way the information was there. and i'm pretty sure if that thread kept growing like it was, most of the playerbase would find out about that information eventually. (probably why it was nuked before it was too late)

edit- for spelling errors..i need to sleep -.-;
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By Carbuncle.Seankp 2012-02-01 01:39:06
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@Zinato on official forums. I don't mind you quoting me. It's cool ^^

Just fix your formatting so it divides up your post and mine :P

And... you might get banned for quoting me lol D:
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By Odin.Graywind 2012-02-01 01:48:09
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
I don't like to assume that just because a person doesn't speak up, means that they are happy.

Fair enough, but one could also say that the individual may not be unhappy enough to take the time to say anything about it either, complacent would be a better word probably.

Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
600 post thread, general consensus was that trial should be changed / altered in someway.

incredible amount of information and reasoning of why it should be changed.

there was a bit of QQ and hate inbetween the people actually trying to talk about it though.

while i'm not sure that 90% of the people dislike the idea, either way the information was there. and i'm pretty sure if that thread kept growing like it was, most of the playerbase would find out about that information eventually. (probably why it was nuked before it was too late)

edit- for spelling errors..i need to sleep -.-;
I know it's a method to keep people "in the dark" and the suspension of the one who just wanted to know why seems backhanded and defiantly can create fuel for more rage no doubt, they did handle it poorly to say the least..

Does anyone know what the "final" posted number for the trials was, the last thing I saw was 20 for relic 5 for mythic and 30 for emp I believe?
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-02-01 01:50:17
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5 relic
3? mythic
60 emp
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:51:17
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That is what was said in the thread that was deleted. But, with it gone, we can't really say thats official.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-01 01:52:38
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It is as official as any other set of numbers we have been given.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-02-01 01:53:02
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
That is what was said in the thread that was deleted. But, with it gone, we can't really say thats official.

its still on the official post on the jp forums, all camate ever did/does for us is translate whats said from the devs to the jp forums :/

it's still there if you wanna run it through google translate.

edit- reposting here for people to see:

JP version:

Google Translate vers-
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-01 01:54:06
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Was more of a joke.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-02-01 01:56:04
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If 5 turns out to be the real number, that's a hell of a lot more reasonable then 20, I'm game.
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