Fupafighters said: »
Fupafighters said: »
Lol I guess bravura falls into apoc category, apoc < ragnarok for raw dmg.
Pretty much
[Dev] Voidwatch: Response To Feedback
[Dev] Voidwatch: Response to Feedback
Guess I'm lucky i did VW tier 1 back when it came out lol...still at over 250 stones and have been spamming for a month now >.< Maybe we should avoid doing these tier 3 jeuno and just go for metals lol?
I'm just glad that it's extremely easy to keep up a stock of voiddust with allied notes if you don't hate campaign, have been out of stones from npc forever due to the sheer amount of spam I do. Really wish they would have added more timer reduction KIs by now.
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
I'm just glad that it's extremely easy to keep up a stock of voiddust with allied notes if you don't hate campaign, have been out of stones from npc forever due to the sheer amount of spam I do. Really wish they would have added more timer reduction KIs by now.
Fupafighters said: »
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
I'm just glad that it's extremely easy to keep up a stock of voiddust with allied notes if you don't hate campaign, have been out of stones from npc forever due to the sheer amount of spam I do. Really wish they would have added more timer reduction KIs by now.
That frequency will still not be able to keep up with how often you do Voidwatch, it effectively saves you about 75 - 145k/day which is basically saying you need 1 riftdross or riftcinder or heavy metal per Voidwatch NM you are fighting to break even(not that the rift items sell, other then sands.)
It's a flawed system and it needs to be looked at with how frequent people are doing it, to make it more ready available, and not depending on spam buying items with points that are a *** to get back, and requires so much time that it's almost not worth committing to doing campaign on a daily basis.
Lakshmi.Prinnysmash said: »
People doubting the 0/200+ on single NMs have clearly never done the same NM for 10 hours straight. Cause my friends and I did at least 200 Pil over a week. Of the 6 of us, no one got a Harness, only random people we invited. So yeah... VW is rewarding I swear.
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
Want to go back to the 2004 old lot system for the "accomplishment" feeling of 24-72hrs camping/1 year for 1 single item, (dalmy ,armada haub .etc)
YET they expect to get a toci in a 3 days with 100 pils runs
Why is the stuff the dev team wanna fix never the stuff people are complaining need fixing? /sigh.
Looks like I wont be coming back to 11 for a little longer if the dev team are gonna be retardeded. On the bright side I'm enjoying Eve Online :) afk shower.
Looks like I wont be coming back to 11 for a little longer if the dev team are gonna be retardeded. On the bright side I'm enjoying Eve Online :) afk shower.
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I also want to emphasize on how they are blatantly lying about voidwatch having equal drop distribution. Especially with the Zilart T3s, the HQ weapons are so much lower of a drop rate than any of the glowy bodies.
Tier 6 bodies are much more common than Tier 3 bodies, too.
I think the T6 bodies are more of a NQ weapon drop rate equivalent, but they still seem to drop rare/ex items at a much more common rate than previous NMs. Especially ig-alima/rex anyways. Shiny weapons off of them seem as rare as ever.
I love that cats face lol.
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The sooner they let you hold 12 stones at one time, the sooner people stop complaining about VW drops.
I'll stop complaining once they give you infinite pops and remove the whole stone dealie.
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3/5 ppl in my ls have Toci, I guess we are lucky. 1st person have toci + Heka, 2nd person got everything from pil, then myself have full fil drop, Meka, Ace, and HQ dagger ^^, I think we hit the jackpot.
Only done about 12 pils and I've obtained dilarams twice, chakram twice and a bunch of fruit and veg :x
Brolli said: »
sorry but i don't expect to get a toci harness by just doing ,100 pils runs in just 2 or 3 days , don't expect a toci just right away, anyone getting items sooner than that it just luck,
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
People want a fair reward for a fair amount of difficulty and time invested. Difficulty through (mass) repetition does not make it difficult.
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off the topic those that talking ***about others complaining on the empy path now, I bet they'll be like the empy path crowd when level 99 upgrade requirement stay at 1000 items. 1000th ADL kill will say hi in 2015.
Brolli said: »
Lakshmi.Prinnysmash said: »
People doubting the 0/200+ on single NMs have clearly never done the same NM for 10 hours straight. Cause my friends and I did at least 200 Pil over a week. Of the 6 of us, no one got a Harness, only random people we invited. So yeah... VW is rewarding I swear.
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
Want to go back to the 2004 old lot system for the "accomplishment" feeling of 24-72hrs camping/1 year for 1 single item, (dalmy ,armada haub .etc)
YET they expect to get a toci in a 3 days with 100 pils runs
The more I read about this event, the less I want to participate in it. I understand MMOs are designed to be a time sink and all but there's got to be a line between an acceptable amount of time spent for the expected reward and a totally ridiculous amount of time epxected.
The statements from the Dev Team feel a lot like them telling us "you aren't doing this content the way we think you should so we'll be adjusting things to try and bring your play more in line with what we originally wanted."
Not even going to bother with commentary on Relic vs. Empyrean weapons, I guess. There's no real point.
The statements from the Dev Team feel a lot like them telling us "you aren't doing this content the way we think you should so we'll be adjusting things to try and bring your play more in line with what we originally wanted."
Not even going to bother with commentary on Relic vs. Empyrean weapons, I guess. There's no real point.
Odin.Almont said: »
The statements from the Dev Team feel a lot like them telling us "you aren't doing this content the way we think you should so we'll be adjusting things to try and bring your play more in line with what we originally wanted."
Believe it or not, this statement is the reason BLU exists. I say this because, if you will notice, BLU is what they originally intended RM to be. The hybrid Fighter/Caster class with a "jack-of-all-trades" vibe to it. They started to create the concept of BLU when folks started playing RDM more like BLM with nuke/DOT/kite fights.
More on-topic:
Think back to before the level cap was raised past 75. How much fun would people have had, or even how often would people have spent so long farming pops in Sky zones if Abjurations, Kirin's Osode, Seiryu's Kote, and Byakko's Haidate had drop rates that were as abysmal as the rates for T3 bodies and HQ weapons? Remember, at the time, these items were seen as "the pinnacle" in-game.
The same can be said of Ground Kings. Each pop would yield something of value to someone. Whether it was a body Abjuration, a lower tier Abjuration, or even just a Black Belt quest item. There was something
to be had. The main beef everyone has with Logwatch is that there is no built in factor like that. Just logs... Lots and lots and LOTS of logs.
Just some food for thought...
I doubt that's the reason they added BLU, but it's neither here nor there and I don't want to derail the thread.
Step 1: 0/300+ on Kaggen and/or Qilin.
Step 2: Sell hundreds of Heavy Metal for millions.
Step 3: Complain about it.
It takes a while to get what you want, but there's little sense in arguing when the game keeps feeding you money and the chance to buy the gear you want, if only in a knock-off form until you can get lucky enough to get the real thing.
Also, keeping track of the number of an NM you do is only going to make it appear to drag out for longer. Something something Leaping Lizzy 0/150+.
With the idea of re-doing previous endgame like Dynamis and giving new purpose to relics and mythics, you could very well be earning money toward a relic or a mythic. But when you go and do a VWNM with the sole purpose of getting that item and not getting it, you set yourself up for disappointment. Psychology, etc.
Actually, I think it's more of a throwback to how it used to be before Abyssea. You rarely got gear. Even if you worked hard, things like DKP stood as a problem and shat in the faces of people who couldn't be on every day and sometimes even then, you weren't rewarded. But when you got something, O how victorious it was. And that's how Voidwatch is. Coming out of Abyssea, however--where it's possible to put in a few hours of work and get something to show for it--it looks horrendous! D: Oh, how dreadful, the drop rates. The difference being with Voidwatch and pre-Abyssea events is that you can vie for gear/money without the solid support of an entire linkshell.
And before I'm labeled as someone who hasn't had the harsh luck that Voidwatch seems to put out, I'm down to my last 10 stones and the only major rare/ex items I have to show for it is Ace's Mail, Anhur Robe (which I don't play mage jobs at all anymore), and maybe Ogier's Breeches if you consider that a rare drop--which I don't. Oh, and the tens of millions I've made from drops. That's certainly not good enough of an incentive to keep going, though. /sarcasm
Finally, compare +2 sets from Abyssea with the bodies from Voidwatch. The Empyrean +2 sets are EVERYWHERE. It doesn't feel special at all. But the Voidwatch bodies, awww yeah.
Step 2: Sell hundreds of Heavy Metal for millions.
Step 3: Complain about it.
It takes a while to get what you want, but there's little sense in arguing when the game keeps feeding you money and the chance to buy the gear you want, if only in a knock-off form until you can get lucky enough to get the real thing.
Also, keeping track of the number of an NM you do is only going to make it appear to drag out for longer. Something something Leaping Lizzy 0/150+.
With the idea of re-doing previous endgame like Dynamis and giving new purpose to relics and mythics, you could very well be earning money toward a relic or a mythic. But when you go and do a VWNM with the sole purpose of getting that item and not getting it, you set yourself up for disappointment. Psychology, etc.
Actually, I think it's more of a throwback to how it used to be before Abyssea. You rarely got gear. Even if you worked hard, things like DKP stood as a problem and shat in the faces of people who couldn't be on every day and sometimes even then, you weren't rewarded. But when you got something, O how victorious it was. And that's how Voidwatch is. Coming out of Abyssea, however--where it's possible to put in a few hours of work and get something to show for it--it looks horrendous! D: Oh, how dreadful, the drop rates. The difference being with Voidwatch and pre-Abyssea events is that you can vie for gear/money without the solid support of an entire linkshell.
And before I'm labeled as someone who hasn't had the harsh luck that Voidwatch seems to put out, I'm down to my last 10 stones and the only major rare/ex items I have to show for it is Ace's Mail, Anhur Robe (which I don't play mage jobs at all anymore), and maybe Ogier's Breeches if you consider that a rare drop--which I don't. Oh, and the tens of millions I've made from drops. That's certainly not good enough of an incentive to keep going, though. /sarcasm
Finally, compare +2 sets from Abyssea with the bodies from Voidwatch. The Empyrean +2 sets are EVERYWHERE. It doesn't feel special at all. But the Voidwatch bodies, awww yeah.
Fenrir.Maaroh said: »
Brolli said: »
sorry but i don't expect to get a toci harness by just doing ,100 pils runs in just 2 or 3 days , don't expect a toci just right away, anyone getting items sooner than that it just luck,
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
People want a fair reward for a fair amount of difficulty and time invested. Difficulty through (mass) repetition does not make it difficult.
I don't know about carby, but it seems like every gimp on levi has a mekira and a hekas, except for anyone I know.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
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Brolli said: »
Fenrir.Maaroh said: »
Brolli said: »
sorry but i don't expect to get a toci harness by just doing ,100 pils runs in just 2 or 3 days , don't expect a toci just right away, anyone getting items sooner than that it just luck,
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
It's just ironic how people
About the game being very easy now/how easy is to get items/soloing stuff.
People want a fair reward for a fair amount of difficulty and time invested. Difficulty through (mass) repetition does not make it difficult.
with a finite amount of stones yeah... once they're gone inc. -20-30k more a run on top of wasted potential in cells.
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
I don't know about carby, but it seems like every gimp on levi has a mekira and a hekas, except for anyone I know.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
Maybe you need to gimp out a little before you get your Mekira. D: For srs, random number generator chooses who it wants.
If you could kill Pil in 15 minutes average, 100 Pils would take 25 hours. But people leave, unweaken, re-stone, chest takes time to depop, etc. So lets say you have 30 minutes of delay every four. Now we're up to 37.5 hours.
Why should 3x 12.5 hour days of spamming Pil not reward you with a decent WS body on average?
Why should 3x 12.5 hour days of spamming Pil not reward you with a decent WS body on average?
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
I don't know about carby, but it seems like every gimp on levi has a mekira and a hekas, except for anyone I know.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
Maybe you need to gimp out a little before you get your Mekira. D: For srs, random number generator chooses who it wants.
No ***, random number generator.
I bet I can make more gil faster than you make gil from heavy metal plates too.
i did akvan 13+ times the last 2 days and half, very comfy. I don't think i deserve one yet till i put real effort and time on it, just saying
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
I don't know about carby, but it seems like every gimp on levi has a mekira and a hekas, except for anyone I know.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
And heavy metal plates is hardly a good way of making gil for a relic or mythic...I've gotten 4 total and I'm 600 alexandrite away from 30,000 :<
VW is still ***.
Maybe you need to gimp out a little before you get your Mekira. D: For srs, random number generator chooses who it wants.
No ***, random number generator.
I bet I can make more gil faster than you make gil from heavy metal plates too.
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