Sam Gear Lvl 99

So just out of curiousity, what would change in a scenario where you have some regain effects, like Monarch+Coercion in VW or Embrava elsewhere? Would it basically be an "Always AM-up set" or would it even change at all (such as all these sets are being tested in an "Embrava Up" scenario)?

Looks fine to me.

I have a question of my own though if anyone knows.
I'm using this set now.

How much better are the Tenryu Tekko +1 compared to Usk. Gote +1?
(I'm saving up for the Hakama first before I consider the Tekko)

yes but why? Usu gote+1 have more DA and I think more acc, no? It doesn't make sense tenryu would come out better for tp. I don't think the STR bonus is gonna beat DA and more acc, is it?

It also has a tiny bit more haste.

And I knew someone was gonna say something about the Phos +1 comment. >:o

If the set bonus is truly 3% haste per added piece as I've heard, then he's at 26% and doesn't need the 1 extra on tenryu+1.

It's 5% for 3 pieces.

Yeah but isn't he at like 25%? Isn't that good enough?

I'm assuming the 3 pieces are 5% for now. So assuming Tenryu gives you the true 26% and the Usu gives the 25% I was wondering how the extra 1 DA stacks versus the fractional haste. I'd assume tenryu wins, but for the price of free I'm willing to hold onto 80M for a while and focus on the tenryu hakama first.

Tenryu have nice attack also.

10 attack (and 9 STR) isn't making or breaking ***during the TP phase -_-

Paulu's set would be better with capped magic haste + Hasso (only need 25% gear haste to cap delay reduction under those conditions), capped attack and capped fSTR. Any other time Tenryu Tekko +1 would be the better hands.

Didnt say it does, i just added what you missed and i do it again they have 8 STR! xD

Noting irrelevant stats (hence why i even missed the STR) is kind of stupid, just saying. It has AGI TOO! I FORGOT THAT ***YO!

We trying to find the best damage setup so we need all datas that enhance it, AGI doesnt.

And att or STR in that small of a quantity isn't going to outweigh DA or haste... wtf is your point? Irrelevant stats are rirrelevant...

Haste? It's already ahead. Attack and STR useless? I'm sure you have a ton of math to back that one up.

You guys are overestimating how much dmg is 1 da on a job that now has ton of DA / zanhasso, and really understimating att/fstr boost on tp phase when it's not capped.

Sam best set depends a lot more on the level/stat of the target you're fighting than before, there is no "best" set anymore.

att and STR over DA? do you have math to back THAT up? This is TP phase we're talking about, not WS.

dont forget DA has deminishing effect as you stack more,so that 1% DA isnt a full 1% just something to consider allso^^

It doesn't. It's effect is only diminished when you have Mythic aftermath up, and even then DA is technically 2 attacks while (I think) Mythic AM scales to 1.8 attacks, so DA still does something, just not nearly as much.

1 DA vs 10 attack & 8 STR on a job (Ccl already said it) that's getting a good 16% (64%) pseudo-DA from zan-hasso if you're doing ***right. SAM's also quite attack starved when Berk's down and you really don't TP in all that much STR, so on anything that matters your fSTR definitely isn't capped.

I can give you math if you need it, but attack and STR are definitely not useless in a TP set.

Might want to talk to Austar about that. I think it's a pretty common misconception it's "deminishing" returns on DA.

please stop

Tenryu +1 come out ahead purely because of the str and att over usu.

Feel free to take 2 minutes with DPS spreadsheets to check for yourself, but stop saying important stats are irrelevant. This just leads to more people assuming the same, and regurgitating the same misinformation.

Edit: Also, for those interested in the idea of diminishing returns on DA, it comes from the fact 1 double attack will have a smaller increase on your dps the higher your DA is before adding it. If you have no qa/ta, 1 da will always add on average 1 attack per 100 swings.

If you do 1 damage per swing, in 100 swings with no DA you will do 100 damage. If you add 1DA, that damage goes up to 101, a 1%(101/100) increase from 100.

If however you had 50 da your damage would be 150 in 100 swings. adding 1 da at that point increases your damage to 151, is only a .67%(151/150) damage increase.

In both of these situations, you have added 1 damage, but in the 2nd it is a lower % increase to your total damage. Because of this, other stats might pull ahead.

thanks sawtelle, thats the general point i was trying to make^^
when considering the 1% DA increase on usu over tenryu+1
an it associated stats.

Isn't the jump from 25% > 26% haste only like .6% as well though because of the way it's calculated?
(Disclaimer: I agree the STR/Attack pull Tenryu ahead regardless)

More like ~.4 apparently.

So Ogy legs for kaiten, is that only in uncapped acc/att situations or any time you don't have tenryu+1 legs?

just wondering how the new caudata belt stacks up against beir+1 for fudo? ^^