Sam Gear Lvl 99
Sam gear lvl 99
Is the WS dmg+3 Shura+1 head viable for kaiten as well as Fudo Aus? And are the gorgets/belts really best? You have them in your MAX set, but not the other one, and they aren't exactly hard to come by.
Odin.Zelphes said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Shoha is a 2hit WS and the WS sets stack DA/QA. Very safe to assume atleast 2 hits are landing.
I'm well aware of Shoha being a native 2-hit WS. I made a mistake by calculating 2nd hit as +1 STP instead of 1.5 STP.
My sets are based on 2 hits landing aswell so I agree with you there.
I still think that the downgrades in shoha set using duplus instead of rose strap in situations with no regain, is not worth it.
I'll check spreadsheets myself when I get back from holiday.
Duplus grip setup is better, especially if you have Tenryu legs. (didn't use Tenryu legs due to how rare they are)
Duplus grip setup:
Loses 2str,35att but gains 1 DA
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Is the WS dmg+3 Shura+1 head viable for kaiten as well as Fudo Aus? And are the gorgets/belts really best? You have them in your MAX set, but not the other one, and they aren't exactly hard to come by.
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Oh ok. I thought it really meant Max output in all situations, though I guess capped attack would let you use a hell of a lot less attack+ stuff that is present in the regular set. Makes sense. Derp moment lol pardon me.
This is the best Koga AM3 TP set I can come up with at the moment if anyone's interested:
Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2
Tenryu Somen +1: Haste+7
Tenryu Tekko +1: DA+2
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Is the WS dmg+3 Shura+1 head viable for kaiten as well as Fudo Aus? And are the gorgets/belts really best? You have them in your MAX set, but not the other one, and they aren't exactly hard to come by.
Yes to Shura+1. Mekira oto+1 when recieving latent.
Well, I think my TP set is pretty good... 5-hit, 26% haste, a bit of TA and some added Zanshin for those Ikishoten merits.
parlindamion said: »
Well, I think my TP set is pretty good...
Explain lol
Less acc, less attack, less zanshin, less hits per round.
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Yeah, both are very close, but Tenryu +1 slightly edges out Usu +1(assuming the set bonus makes up the remaining haste to cap). Hierarchy would be: Tenryu +1 > Usukane +1 > Phorycs for the head slot.
Thats kind of a half-assed explaination, not even sure what you mean... Are you saying I need more attack and DA? I'll agree that my setup needs more attack for higher end stuff, but with Hasso up, the zanshin proc rate is pretty decent. I mean, I realize I could replace Katana strap for rose and Tactical for atheling to just conform lol but idk... Just seems like I'd be trying to turn my SAM into my WAR
Yeah bro, stick it to the man! Don't use superior stats so the gap between you and other jobs is even higher.
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Cerberus.Agreian said: »
Thats kind of a half-assed explaination, not even sure what you mean... Are you saying I need more attack and DA? I'll agree that my setup needs more attack for higher end stuff, but with Hasso up, the zanshin proc rate is pretty decent. I mean, I realize I could replace Katana strap for rose and Tactical for atheling to just conform lol but idk... Just seems like I'd be trying to turn my SAM into my WAR
lol thats not what I mean but sure, I 'll take it. I didn't come here to get trolled but for insight. Maybe even give some. Anyway, I guess the way I was taught to gear goes X-hit > Haste cap > all else. Also, I'm not sure how many know about it, but zanshin is like the samurai DA now... Except with Ikishoten, you get extra TP. Personally, right after a WS, when I get a zanshin proc (Which is a fairly good rate) I go from 16% TP to 85% or so.
Ignoring the fact that you're getting less zanshin than you would in a standard tp set, and losing out on a lot of valuable stats. Katana strap doesn't even give you a whole % of zanshin-DA.
Actually, I've been looking for testing done on the Katana strap... If you can show me proof, I'd be grateful and gladly change it up. Also, what do you mean by "Standard TP set?" If you mean Unkai Domaru +2, Zelus, and Bullwhip etc. I've seen those setups and not really fond of them. Alot of them I see aren't even real 5-hit setups without Amana AM.
Now something different, is there any situation that /drg would be superior to /war for koga users? Basically slightly faster AM3 building, more hassozanshin, and a slightly altered TP set, in exchange for 10% DA. Only under superbuffed situations or fodder obviously.
Zelus? Bullwhip? You're a couple months behind o.o
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Cerberus.Agreian said: »
Actually, I've been looking for testing done on the Katana strap... If you can show me proof, I'd be grateful and gladly change it up. Also, what do you mean by "Standard TP set?" If you mean Unkai Domaru +2, Zelus, and Bullwhip etc. I've seen those setups and not really fond of them. Alot of them I see aren't even real 5-hit setups without Amana AM.
Thanks ^^ But it says the zanshin on the Katana strap is 3%. The difference between Atheling/Rose and Tactical/Katana would then be 35 attack and 2 STP no? Idk... Show me how you would do it or what would be your perfect set?
parlindamion said: »
Show me how you would do it or what would be your perfect set?
This was the best tp set you could have your hands on pre-salv update, although you would need phos+1 to cap haste, can swap out tenryu for brego given the fact they're hard to come by.
Porthos SAMs need to die in a fire, just sayin'
Usu boots and zelus tiara if no phorcys head. Hassozanshin rate is 1/4 of your zanshin rate, so katana strap gives .75.
Thats a pretty badass set but, you'd need 17.6% TP on WS for a true 5-hit. Can I also see whats in your WS set prease? ^^;
Cerberus.Agreian said: »
Thats a pretty badass set but, you'd need 17.6% TP on WS for a true 5-hit. Can I also see whats in your WS set prease? ^^;
Seriously, just go back a few pages & read to catch up. Well youre pretty far behind so id say go back quite a bit. Most of the questions regarding fixing your TP set is already there as well as a lot of ws sets to help set a solid 5-hit.
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