Sam Gear Lvl 99

Was wondering which TP set would be optimal for Namas spam. These are the sets I came up with using 3 different weapons.

I'm actually 4-hitting with the 2-4 hit GK which is the main reason I considered its use, though I do have to dip into 23% haste.

Unless I'm counting wrong, this set would be giving a 28.6 TP return from Namas.
Edit: I was way off on Namas TP return. :/ only 23.X%

Sam cant use garg arrows

Oh. :( So they can't. Fixed.

Looking for a bit of help. Finally got Ganesha's mala (FINALLYJEEEZ) but still overshooting stp in my tp set.




Just wondering if I made the swap to misuuchi kappa too soon? Or if I am still 5 hitting (assuming fudo for now) if I swap bushi out for unkai earring and misuuchi back for unkai back?

Thanks for any help, NNI floor 100 head and tenryu tekko+1 left to go ._.

unkai earring
zelus tiarra

wat?

That sounds like I'm loosing too much then though. Would of helped probably if I posted my Fudo set.



Thought to use Zelus tiarra I would also have to use a stp neck and usu feet?

Tyrant's ring!

There you go lol.

Muh I'll get it eventually. Not too bothered really.

Pretty sure they'd have to TP with usukane feet also if they swapped to Zelus, or something gross like tactical mantle. But they'd be sitting on 25% atleast.

Or you could just eat the 24% haste you have now, swap out bushi for unkai, and kappa for unkai cape until you get phorcys head. Go go zanshin procs.

Thank you for a proper answer ^^ Thought I could but wanted to double check. The reason I'm stuck at 24% is because no NNI head yet and salvage hates my guts. :(

I imagine the wsd on shura is first hit only like ogier's and phorcys?

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Shoha



tenyru tekko+1 2% double atk finally 1/10..
moonshade TPbonus+25 atk

Are you trying to post optimal or just showing people the sets you use?

showing not 100% optimal close tho i guess phos+1 an tenryu hakama+1 on my list of wants. just happy with my longtime progress on my sam >.>

lol, just wondering since most people don't own any tenryu +1. So I wasn't sure.

eh after going 1/10 for HQ augment on them, felt the need to show my efforts lol^^

K I'm not understanding why you have Saotome +2 in your fudo set if you're still using Rajas, you should be able to drop one or the other with your TP set.

My TP set has less STP than yours and my Fudo set is almost identical sans Justice torque, Pyrosoul, Flame pearl instead of brutal, heafoc mitts, and unkai +2 feet, and I'm solidly 5-hit.

saotome +2 for true 5hit fudo if u troll back a few pages taint did the math on it.its somewhere in sam forums.

Since when is asking a question trolling... I use the gear stated and I land on 100TP after fudo... Fudo, hit, hit, hit, hit 100TP.

lol whoa there tiger wasnt saying you were trollin >.> ment have a look back in sam forums. anyway maths been done just saying.ive tested it myself sometimes id land on 99tp using unkai+2 feet in that set up till i changed to sao+2.

Looking at the math it still seems you're over a hair, why do I see brutal in so many Fudo sets, does 5% DA beat 4 STR even on a 1hit or is it just for the STP?

well math would be
40 STP from being sam and 48 from gear, 11.1 * 1.88 = 20.8 * 4 = 83.2 tp for 4 hits and 11.1 * 1.50 (for WS gear without 5 stp from relic feet) = 16.6 , and 16.6 + 83.2 = 99.8

edit: so he's absolutely correct in being just short of a true 5 hit, that being said taking 1 dmg during TP phase or any form of regain would make up for that, or any multi attack on fudo

100.4 is still overshooting, thats why I questioned the setup initially...

I just went and tested it and I landed on 100, so I don't get it, I should be landing on 99 with 1 hit fudo, is there some value on the conserve TP on the unkai feet?

I don't know where you're getting 100.4 from, or if I didn't explain the math well enough. and yes Unkai feet have conserve TP +6

Edit: he's at 100.3 with relic feet, and if you're saying he should drop some stp to hit 100.0 he needs to drop 3 stp on fudo, and with brutal+1 raja+5 and relic feet+5 I'm not sure how he would do that, so the .3 tp overflow seems acceptable to me, as long as he has no form of regain, since he can't count of taking damage every attack round or getting a multi attack every fudo.

seems like the initial question was brutal vs 4str earring for fudo. 5da>4str, brutal isn't used for the stp. stp is only a bonus.

/facepalm

if you're talking about the last few posts, the initial question wasso I showed the math why he needs Sao. Sune-Ate +2 + raja, I only metioned brutal because X-hit was being mathed, and you math all STP.

What TP return are you getting on that Fudo? Should be 16, if it's 17 or 18 you probably got a multi-attack.

Either that or you're getting hit part way through.

100.4% isn't really overshooting, though... since if you take away any of the gear there that isn't "optimal" and is just being used for STP (basically just the feet) then you're losing too much to stay above 100%.



As to where he got 100.4...

11.1%/hit is what you get from a 437 delay GK without any STP. In the above posted sets, you have 48 STP, SAM has 40 with traits + merits. That's 88 in total

1.88 * 11.1 = 20.8% TP per hit.

20.8 (TP) * 4 (hits after weaponskill) = 83.2% not accounting for a weaponskill.

In his weaponskill set he has 15 STP. 40 traits/merits + 15 = 55.

1.55 * 11.1 = 17.2% return from Fudo.

83.2 + 17.2 = 100.4%


edit: Actually, Jass, post your sets real fast~

We're doing the same math, I get 16TP from fudo. When I did my initial setup I didn't drop the 10ths place to floor, I rounded, leaving me at 100.03 or some paltry decimal over. But, in months of spamming fudo in every high attack situation I have yet to come up short on TP unless I didn't get back into TP gear fast enough. Doing the math I am short of 5hit, but even in practice I'm still landing on 100. So, I will have to revisit my sets when I'm slightly more awake, cause something definately isn't adding up.