Sam Gear Lvl 99
Sam gear lvl 99
Any idea what the math is on the TP return for Shoha?
Any hit beyond the first adds 1 TP.
Awesome. Thanks, Austar.
Siren.Hellscream said: »
Lakshmi.Zeosilot said: »
Been working on my SAM for the last few weeks (partially with the use of this thread/forum) and this is what I'm sporting at the moment.
I have a 5 hit, 25% Haste, 71 Atk and 32 Acc.
Could switch to Ryuga Sune-Ate if the Acc us too low but I'm not certain that it's necessary. Also, I presume Hasty Pinion is not worth using despite the fact that I'd still have a 5 hit?
Any general suggestions/improvements?
Honestly, it's so easy to 5-hit with kanto that there are a lot of gear combinations you can use and keep 25-26% haste. Your set looks good to me. I was using this set I think... (I still don't have any phorcys or mala, working on it):
NOTE: Can't remember what earring/neck I was using so I put bushi/justice as placeholders lol.
What's the word on Unkai Domaru +2 & Ace's Leggings vs Ace's Mail & Ryuga Sune-Ate?
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What's the word on Unkai Domaru +2 & Ace's Leggings vs Ace's Mail & Ryuga Sune-Ate?
The word on TP'ing in Ace's Mail is "don't".
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Does STP effect the second hit of a multi hit WS like Shoha?
Source
It should be easy enough for someone to test.
Wiki said:
Additional hits from multi-hit weapon skills or double/triple attacks are also affected by Store TP with the same method.
For example, any additional hit with Store TP II will be (1 TP/hit) * (1 + (15 / 100)), or 1.1 TP/hit (when appropriately rounded down).
For example, any additional hit with Store TP II will be (1 TP/hit) * (1 + (15 / 100)), or 1.1 TP/hit (when appropriately rounded down).
It should be easy enough for someone to test.
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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What's the word on Unkai Domaru +2 & Ace's Leggings vs Ace's Mail & Ryuga Sune-Ate?
The word on TP'ing in Ace's Mail is "don't".
It's not ideal, but with the way mobs spam TP moves, is the subtle blow -15 really that big a deal? You can swap out ace's for ogier's as another example if you like.
It's the loss of zanshin, not the subtle blow.
Thanks again Austar lol
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No, I meant so far as, as a yard stick for gauging damage you deal. It's not a particularly difficult VWNM
Spent a little time with FFXI calc and item sets today trying to come up with theoretical best cases (non voidwatch amano).
TP
WS
For the TP phase the benefits are 5-Hit (20.8% TP per hit), 25% haste (27.5% with hasso), 60% zanshin, 2% quadruple attack and 3% double attack.
When switching to WS the benefits are STR+44, attack+119, 3% WS damage and TP bonus+25 (16.9 TP for the single hit WS).
This equals out to 100.1% TP in the end... but something feels off or that an improvement could be made. Please note that I am aware that shoha adds another 1% for the second hit and that this set is reliant on using kaiten at this time.
Does anyone have any viable replacements or suggestions for 99 amano or does this fit the bill?
TP
WS
For the TP phase the benefits are 5-Hit (20.8% TP per hit), 25% haste (27.5% with hasso), 60% zanshin, 2% quadruple attack and 3% double attack.
When switching to WS the benefits are STR+44, attack+119, 3% WS damage and TP bonus+25 (16.9 TP for the single hit WS).
This equals out to 100.1% TP in the end... but something feels off or that an improvement could be made. Please note that I am aware that shoha adds another 1% for the second hit and that this set is reliant on using kaiten at this time.
Does anyone have any viable replacements or suggestions for 99 amano or does this fit the bill?
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Asura.Fondue said: »
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Thank you I knew there was something missing from my thought process... long day.
Asura.Fondue said: »
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?
Prosilio Belt, keep justiciar's, and centaurus earring unless attack is capped. Then you can use ele belt/neck and vulcan's. And strigoi ring.
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?No, because kaiten is a single hit WS.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Fondue said: »
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?
should you only be using kaiten when pdif will be capped?
and even then anytime you have more than close to 100tp use shoha?
If you're WSing with ~200 or so with capped attack Shoha would be better.
Edit: Not counting moonshade, so 225 counting moonshade.
Edit: Not counting moonshade, so 225 counting moonshade.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Prosilio Belt, keep justiciar's, and centaurus earring unless attack is capped. Then you can use ele belt/neck and vulcan's. And strigoi ring.
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?No, because kaiten is a single hit WS.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Fondue said: »
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?
It's only single hit if you don't double/triple/quad attack with it, in which case you do not get the accuracy bonus and will need accuracy somewhat.
javelinx said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Prosilio Belt, keep justiciar's, and centaurus earring unless attack is capped. Then you can use ele belt/neck and vulcan's. And strigoi ring.
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?No, because kaiten is a single hit WS.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Fondue said: »
kaiten aftermath lets you drop all stp in ws set can use dual pyrosoul/thew
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
ele neck/dilarams also vulcans or 10attack earring tp does nothing for kaiten
Not goin with quad stuff for kaiten? And is dilaram's 1 attack over AF3+2 really better than the bonus acc (on higher end stuff obviously) and the conserve tp bonus procs?
It's only single hit if you don't double/triple/quad attack with it, in which case you do not get the accuracy bonus and will need accuracy somewhat.
The point being that it's stupid to drop 15 acc (-8 dex obviously) and some conserve tp for 1 att, conserve tp being the bigger factor there than the acc in most cases.
...oh ok then...not, even with a single hit ws that heavily relies on att, 1 att is going to be so miniscule of an addition on anything (even with just self buffs/food /war you're talking like .1-.2% of your total attack), where the acc helps with da/ta/qa proc hit's, which mean considerably more damage, and the conserve tp might help put you closer to a 4 hit scenario if it proc's.
If you need acc with amano, you're probably eating pizza anyways, meaning you're capped. And the conserve TP won't get you closer to a 4 hit at all, since you need more than 20 per hit during melee phase, and that's the max a conserve TP proc will get you.
closer*, factor in getting hit, etc, and if pizza is capping you on da/ta/qa hit on worthwhile stuff then I'd like the see the parse lol, because the Alicorn in legion is no joke.
You would NEED a 20 TP conserve tp and get hit to lower you a hit. And the odds of that happening are .05*.13 = .65% chance of happening with ele. belt and unkai sun-ate.
so reading is hard...it can help you get there, not saying it's going to give you 20 tp, but if it gives you 5 or 10, it's closer than none...not the point really, but considerably more effective that 1 att lol, if it's a .65% chance, (which is pretty rich since that math does not make sense (13% chance x median possible store tp (10)would be more accurate)), since the att is only going to put you .1%~ towards capping pdif on anything, 10 att, or hell even 5 attack, and maybe, on acc capped mobs, I would agree....but if you're capped acc, and you're using kaiten...you're probably not using it on anything worthwhile anyway, and that means your pdif is probably capped without the .1%...
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