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 Lakshmi.Zeosilot
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By Lakshmi.Zeosilot 2012-06-08 17:54:44
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Simplified: In the case of WS's like Tachi: Shoha. Pyrosoul Ring (which has 1 strength more than Strigoi Ring) will typically win.

The comment about Strigoi Ring having only 2.25 more attack was because 1 Strength = 0.75 attack (for a 2 handed weapon) so (3-0.75 = 2.25). I thought it was fairly simple math :/
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-08 17:55:40
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wut.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2012-06-08 17:57:49
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
wut.

second this.

I have no idea what Zeo posted XD
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-08 18:01:59
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Rellikk said: »
All I see are pyrosouls in these ws builds. Did I waste my time farming a strigoi!? D:
Uncapped attack on fudo, various polearm WSs, and depending on how your WSC rounding for shoha, could be equal to a pyrosoul for that.
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By Rellikk 2012-06-08 18:04:24
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Rellikk said: »
All I see are pyrosouls in these ws builds. Did I waste my time farming a strigoi!? D:
Uncapped attack on fudo, various polearm WSs, and depending on how your WSC rounding for shoha, could be equal to a pyrosoul for that.

k! Needed that
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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-06-09 01:20:30
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Noob to SAM here but would that 4 hit build Zeo posted be better for DOT than a 5hit Masa even though Fudo is double damage? Probably stupid question but curious.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-09 01:23:47
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Fudo is ***unless you have capped attack. Stick with Shoha.
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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-06-09 01:26:32
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So without capped attack, Kikugosaku using Shoha is better than Masa with Fudo?
Never expected that
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-09 01:29:08
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Masa with Shoha is better than Masa with Fudo*

Provided we aren't talking something silly like a lv85 masamune.
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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-06-09 01:31:16
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Oh so unless you're not willing to build a Masa, then that Kiku setup is way to go I take it?

Masa 90+ using Shoha takes the cake then?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-09 01:54:47
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Depends. TP Bonus GKT is an amazing weapon too. I don't know enough about any Kiku builds to offer judgment.
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By Gimpness 2012-06-09 02:04:51
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Rellikk said: »
I'm the gimpest SAM ever.


that ^






or BLM4lyfe.


(actually, with koga I think you can take out kappa for af3 if its still winning, but I'm too lazy to double check)


edit: oh, and rajas and brutal have to be on the left. (when I finish up your SAM xml I'm making it so if you have them otherwise it won't work.)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 02:23:24
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current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.
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By Smurfite 2012-06-09 02:59:28
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Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.

how much fishbotting did it take to buy that phos +1?
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By Cerberus.Pukushu 2012-06-09 03:11:45
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Smurfite said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.

how much fishbotting did it take to buy that phos +1?

passive aggressive much?

dunno evil, but its 2012 and fishbotting isnt the only way to make gil quickly now days.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-06-09 03:16:46
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Smurfite said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.

how much fishbotting did it take to buy that phos +1?

A better question is why are you using porthos brynie, portus collar and ogier's hands?

Unless you don't have the +2 body and ganesha mala (*** that mala, nightmare) that's a big chunk of QA and hasso/zanshin to give up =/
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-06-09 03:25:22
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Gimpness said: »
Rellikk said: »
I'm the gimpest SAM ever.


that ^

Would probably need a AM3 up/down sets, and then separate shoha and rana sets. Could also drop some of the stp needed in that set as it's a 450 GK so could maybe swap in some hasso/zanshin pieces or atheling or something.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 09:09:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.


Use this set instead


Brego is fine until Tekko+1
Same with Portus or Rancor if you dont' have Mala
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 14:41:16
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piss broke and poor people be mad as ***cuz i got my phos +1 for 45M
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 14:50:16
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Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
piss broke and poor people be mad as ***cuz i got my phos +1 for 45M

While I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Phos+1 for 45mil its hardly needed.

With capped magic haste (embrava/marches+haste) you don't need Phos+1 to hit the delay cap NQPhos or Bullwhip gets you there.

Its also worth stating the gear set I posted with a 7% belt will out do your set on anything but trash mobs.

Porthos is a Jeuno body, leave it there.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 14:54:38
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.


Use this set instead


Brego is fine until Tekko+1
Same with Portus or Rancor if you dont' have Mala

i could be using af2 body and brego i have both tp sets, but reason i don't use it , is because i don't do legion often, but whenever i start doing it again ill use brego and af, till kote +1 that is, and dont confuse 99 amano with +40 acc to the 0 + acc masa.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 15:04:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »


current tp set , true 5 hit , 4 hit after ws and 60 acc .
missing Gmala on neck , i full-time sam +2 legs for the hasso 2.5% increase.


Use this set instead


Brego is fine until Tekko+1
Same with Portus or Rancor if you dont' have Mala

i could be using af2 body and brego i have both tp sets, but reason i don't use it , is because i don't do legion often, but whenever i start doing it again ill use brego and af, till kote +1 that is, and dont confuse 99 amano with +40 acc to the 0 + acc masa.



I used Amano99 for my comparisons. What does legion have to do with using proper sets?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 15:07:44
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get an amano to 99 then compare it to masa, you keep playing with that calculator too much, you forget that amano shits on masa. you will know the day you get one.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 15:08:33
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Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
get an amano to 99 then compare it to masa, you keep playing with that calculator too much, you forget that amano shits on masa. you will know the day you get one.


wtf are you talking about. I used Amano99 for comparing the sets. LOL

Why would anyone use different weapons when comparing gear sets?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-09 15:09:39
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I love relic syndrome.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 15:12:50
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
I love relic syndrome.


The best part is he posting a fodder gear set when Amanos only edge over Masamune is on harder content.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 15:28:25
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the best part is you got no amano 99, yet u base all the so called "TESTING" with your little calculator on other people with amano,consider yourself lucky you in cerb if not i would rip your sam a new *** on anything,rip so much that it would send your sam back to the middle ages where shinsokus and haguns lived.


fodder that.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-09 15:29:39
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Someone sure is buttdevastated.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-06-09 15:30:02
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That was actually amusing.
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