The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age
The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
I see. I will bear that in mind. I probably would not take it to 99. Too bad Dancer can't use Mandau as then I could justify making one.
From what I've been told, Aluh Jambiyah in your main hand is about the same damage as a 90 Twashtar unless you are able to take full advantage of the aftermath. 95/99 Twashtar is definitely better though.
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
That's okay, I appreciate the feedback. Byrth is a reliable source, but hearing it from others as well cements my conclusion! I think if I went to the effort to 99 an Empyrean I would 99 one of the Empyreans that kicks serious arse rather than a Twashtar.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I would not bother with Twash unless you are taking it to 99, but it is a good dagger.
Slycer's translation disagrees with you, Sylow. He has 1H ratio going to 2.25.
Slycer's translation disagrees with you, Sylow. He has 1H ratio going to 2.25.
We don't disagree, it's just when I said "ours" I meant "players."
pchan said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
How much str/attack is generally needed to cap in dynamis on DC dnc/thf, assuming RCB? I read alot and never found this answer :/
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
1k +
Attack to cap (2.25 ratio) on Nightmare mobs by Def Down:
W / Dia II and Box step (level 0, 1, 2 etc.): 878, 835, 817, 799, 781, 764
W/ Box Step (0,1,2 etc.): 978, 930, 910, 891, 872, 852
Bolded box step 2 since you can pretty much at least have this up always.
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And just because I can, with the current ratio cap (2.0):
Dia II and Box Step: {780.444, 742.222, 726.222, 710.222, 694.222, 679.111}
Box Step: {869.333, 826.667, 808.889, 792., 775.111, 757.333}
I just multiplied by 2.0/2.25 and didn't bother rounding.
Dia II and Box Step: {780.444, 742.222, 726.222, 710.222, 694.222, 679.111}
Box Step: {869.333, 826.667, 808.889, 792., 775.111, 757.333}
I just multiplied by 2.0/2.25 and didn't bother rounding.
The 2.25 Ratio is a pretty substantial boost to our DPS in high buff situations. That's a 20% damage increase in places like Legion, assuming we can get enough attack to take advantage of it.
Motenten's sheet has me at 584 attack in my March TP build.
276 Attack from 4x Minuet +5
+35% Attack from 11 Chaos with a DRK
+25% Attack from Berserk
153 Attack from RCB
I see us topping out around 1530 Attack, which would cap Ratio on a 680 defense monster. Motenten has Ig-Alima at 750 defense in the spreadsheet, which is probably approximately Paramount Gallu's stats as well. With 22% Defense down (Light Shot/Dia II + Presto Box Step) we could cap on a theoretical 872 defense monster as long as Berserk is up. When Berserk is down with these debuffs, we barely cap on an Ig-Alima-ish monster.
Motenten's sheet has me at 584 attack in my March TP build.
276 Attack from 4x Minuet +5
+35% Attack from 11 Chaos with a DRK
+25% Attack from Berserk
153 Attack from RCB
I see us topping out around 1530 Attack, which would cap Ratio on a 680 defense monster. Motenten has Ig-Alima at 750 defense in the spreadsheet, which is probably approximately Paramount Gallu's stats as well. With 22% Defense down (Light Shot/Dia II + Presto Box Step) we could cap on a theoretical 872 defense monster as long as Berserk is up. When Berserk is down with these debuffs, we barely cap on an Ig-Alima-ish monster.
lol DNC. No really, this ajustement is only good to MNKs. This is balance.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
pchan said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
How much str/attack is generally needed to cap in dynamis on DC dnc/thf, assuming RCB? I read alot and never found this answer :/
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
1k +
Attack to cap (2.25 ratio) on Nightmare mobs by Def Down:
W / Dia II and Box step (level 0, 1, 2 etc.): 878, 835, 817, 799, 781, 764
W/ Box Step (0,1,2 etc.): 978, 930, 910, 891, 872, 852
Bolded box step 2 since you can pretty much at least have this up always.
Cool story bro, call me when you can dia2 and box step every single mob in the game.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
The 2.25 Ratio is a pretty substantial boost to our DPS in high buff situations. That's a 20% damage increase in places like Legion, assuming we can get enough attack to take advantage of it.
Motenten's sheet has me at 584 attack in my March TP build.
276 Attack from 4x Minuet +5
+35% Attack from 11 Chaos with a DRK
+25% Attack from Berserk
153 Attack from RCB
I see us topping out around 1530 Attack, which would cap Ratio on a 680 defense monster. Motenten has Ig-Alima at 750 defense in the spreadsheet, which is probably approximately Paramount Gallu's stats as well. With 22% Defense down (Light Shot/Dia II + Presto Box Step) we could cap on a theoretical 872 defense monster as long as Berserk is up. When Berserk is down with these debuffs, we barely cap on an Ig-Alima-ish monster.
Motenten's sheet has me at 584 attack in my March TP build.
276 Attack from 4x Minuet +5
+35% Attack from 11 Chaos with a DRK
+25% Attack from Berserk
153 Attack from RCB
I see us topping out around 1530 Attack, which would cap Ratio on a 680 defense monster. Motenten has Ig-Alima at 750 defense in the spreadsheet, which is probably approximately Paramount Gallu's stats as well. With 22% Defense down (Light Shot/Dia II + Presto Box Step) we could cap on a theoretical 872 defense monster as long as Berserk is up. When Berserk is down with these debuffs, we barely cap on an Ig-Alima-ish monster.
pchan said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
pchan said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
How much str/attack is generally needed to cap in dynamis on DC dnc/thf, assuming RCB? I read alot and never found this answer :/
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
Just checked, 562 base attack in tp set.
1k +
Attack to cap (2.25 ratio) on Nightmare mobs by Def Down:
W / Dia II and Box step (level 0, 1, 2 etc.): 878, 835, 817, 799, 781, 764
W/ Box Step (0,1,2 etc.): 978, 930, 910, 891, 872, 852
Bolded box step 2 since you can pretty much at least have this up always.
Cool story bro, call me when you can dia2 and box step every single mob in the game.
I presto --> Box step (LV2 to start) everything I engage. Getting FMs is part of the job bro.
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Pchan why are you in a dancer forum? I find that twash 90 wins mainly because with a decent set, you can proc around 30% often and just rudra unstacked to kill it. Then you have some aftermath for next mob....which should already be on you if you're doing it right.
Sylph.Peldin said: »
From what I've been told, Aluh Jambiyah in your main hand is about the same damage as a 90 Twashtar unless you are able to take full advantage of the aftermath. 95/99 Twashtar is definitely better though.
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
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Ty sylow. I guess I can't really improve my tp set until I get skadi+1. :/
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Pchan why are you in a dancer forum? I find that twash 90 wins mainly because with a decent set, you can proc around 30% often and just rudra unstacked to kill it. Then you have some aftermath for next mob....which should already be on you if you're doing it right.
Sylph.Peldin said: »
From what I've been told, Aluh Jambiyah in your main hand is about the same damage as a 90 Twashtar unless you are able to take full advantage of the aftermath. 95/99 Twashtar is definitely better though.
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
I mostly made this because pchan seemed confused or misinformed about the frequency at which Dancers use Box Step.
But perhaps someone else was confused too.
Terpsichore users will step less frequently (generally only with Presto up, so half as often). If something is super evasive you can use quick step but it's not needed very often.
But perhaps someone else was confused too.
Terpsichore users will step less frequently (generally only with Presto up, so half as often). If something is super evasive you can use quick step but it's not needed very often.
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pchan said: »
No really, this ajustement is only good to MNKs. This is balance.
ahahahaha I didnt even notice this.
[shut the *** up pchan.gif censored due to profanity]
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Looking at the update items:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/January_2013_Version_Update_Changes
.... I only see two minor (potential) upgrades to minor roles.
Caudata belt may be better than Wanion once in a while for Pyrrhic Kleos: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Caudata_Belt
Erlene's Notebook may be better than Charis feather for Aeolian Edge: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Erlene%27s_Notebook
Beyond that, all of it sucks and I'm honestly more excited for this katana than the entirety of Dancer upgrades (and I don't even play Ninja): http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Uguisu
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/January_2013_Version_Update_Changes
.... I only see two minor (potential) upgrades to minor roles.
Caudata belt may be better than Wanion once in a while for Pyrrhic Kleos: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Caudata_Belt
Erlene's Notebook may be better than Charis feather for Aeolian Edge: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Erlene%27s_Notebook
Beyond that, all of it sucks and I'm honestly more excited for this katana than the entirety of Dancer upgrades (and I don't even play Ninja): http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Uguisu
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Looking at the update items: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/January_2013_Version_Update_Changes .... I only see two minor (potential) upgrades to minor roles. Caudata belt may be better than Wanion once in a while for Pyrrhic Kleos: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Caudata_Belt Erlene's Notebook may be better than Charis feather for Aeolian Edge: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Erlene%27s_Notebook Beyond that, all of it sucks and I'm honestly more excited for this katana than the entirety of Dancer upgrades (and I don't even play Ninja): http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Uguisu
pretty sure they just randomly threw that into the rank 3 bonanza to distract us
Sylph.Peldin said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Pchan why are you in a dancer forum? I find that twash 90 wins mainly because with a decent set, you can proc around 30% often and just rudra unstacked to kill it. Then you have some aftermath for next mob....which should already be on you if you're doing it right.
Sylph.Peldin said: »
From what I've been told, Aluh Jambiyah in your main hand is about the same damage as a 90 Twashtar unless you are able to take full advantage of the aftermath. 95/99 Twashtar is definitely better though.
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
For the events that Dancer does, it just seems Twashtar isn't really worth the effort unless you plan to take it past 90.
*edit* apparently I type too slow
Confession:
I've started subbing NIN when I do Salvage II. It just makes everything so easy.
43.75% magic Haste, 25% melee Haste, a pinch of Fast Cast = 13 second Utsu: Ni recast, which is about how long the monsters take to swing through three shadows with Elegy on.
Khim goes from a constant stream of Cure IV/V to doing like five C5s the entire fight mostly for Cureskin. It doesn't even take that much longer. I finished tri-boxing Arrapago II in 70-80 minutes twice tonight, including a break on the second run to go make hot chocolate. I don't bother with Utsu against anything short of the bosses, but wow does it ever make it all easy.
I've started subbing NIN when I do Salvage II. It just makes everything so easy.
43.75% magic Haste, 25% melee Haste, a pinch of Fast Cast = 13 second Utsu: Ni recast, which is about how long the monsters take to swing through three shadows with Elegy on.
Khim goes from a constant stream of Cure IV/V to doing like five C5s the entire fight mostly for Cureskin. It doesn't even take that much longer. I finished tri-boxing Arrapago II in 70-80 minutes twice tonight, including a break on the second run to go make hot chocolate. I don't bother with Utsu against anything short of the bosses, but wow does it ever make it all easy.
I see you have a saio now, is it part of just your ws set or do you use it for tp'ing as well?
He got the Saio from the Gobbie thing. >:( Charis +2 is what's being used in the ideal TP set (Thaumas with marches? Idk, I know nothing about DNC except that it lets me do 8k light SCs). Saio for Exenterator and PK.
Congrats agaaaaaain~!
Go forth and acquire OA2-3 AM3!
Go forth and acquire OA2-3 AM3!
Congrats!~
Must have been best Salvage run ever! :o
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
including a break on the second run to go make hot chocolate
Valefor.Sapphire said: »
I see you have a saio now, is it part of just your ws set or do you use it for tp'ing as well?
I'm using the sets (or close variations of the sets) on page 83-84.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Congrats agaaaaaain~!
Go forth and acquire OA2-3 AM3!
Go forth and acquire OA2-3 AM3!
I'm probably going to be a little slow on this; classes / work have been a little obnoxious lately.
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