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The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
I guess it's feasible they could have added a 3rd resist state?
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Off the current topic, but on just normal DNC stuff, would it be worth unlocking Phyric without the dagger to go with it?
Of course. Pyrrhic is lovely outside to self skillchain darkness.
Pyrrhic has its uses, but they're becoming less and less common.
Fenrir.Yuriki said: » Of course. Pyrrhic is lovely outside to self skillchain darkness. Useless if you're a Twashtar wielder, because Rudra's does it too, and can even skillchain with itself. The usefulness of Pyrrhic lies in the Evasion Down effect, really. Bismarck.Sylow said: » Pyrrhic has its uses, but they're becoming less and less common. were you even taking pk into consideration for T6's when you added mars anyways, just curious.
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I was thinking of more of a "bridge" to Twashtar, I decided I want to get it, I just don't have the ability/time/people (Don't turn this into a lolempyrean - takes 2 weeks conversation) for those NM's just yet. Darkness is obviously awesome, but what kind of dmg does it do? Inside and out.
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » were you even taking pk into consideration for T6's when you added mars anyways, just curious. Yeah, I did. Bismarck.Sylow said: » Yeah, I did. mortontony1 said: » I was thinking of more of a "bridge" to Twashtar, I decided I want to get it, I just don't have the ability/time/people (Don't turn this into a lolempyrean - takes 2 weeks conversation) for those NM's just yet. Darkness is obviously awesome, but what kind of dmg does it do? Inside and out. Pyrrhic Kleos is slightly weaker on average than Dancing Edge and Evisceration and pales to Exenterator. There's not much that wouldn't survive PK --> Evis -> Darkness that would survive DE --> DE --> Scission. no i mean, taking into consideration of pk + agressor and your gear set for it, thats quite a lot of accuracy.
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Bismarck.Sylow said: » mortontony1 said: » I was thinking of more of a "bridge" to Twashtar, I decided I want to get it, I just don't have the ability/time/people (Don't turn this into a lolempyrean - takes 2 weeks conversation) for those NM's just yet. Darkness is obviously awesome, but what kind of dmg does it do? Inside and out. Pyrrhic Kleos is slightly weaker on average than Dancing Edge and Evisceration and pales to Exenterator. There's not much that wouldn't survive PK --> Evis -> Darkness that would survive DE --> DE --> Scission. Hmmm... well my usual SC is either Evis > Exen or Evis > DE The extra damage from Darkness would more than make up for the base damage PK is losing I'd bet? mortontony1 said: » Bismarck.Sylow said: » mortontony1 said: » I was thinking of more of a "bridge" to Twashtar, I decided I want to get it, I just don't have the ability/time/people (Don't turn this into a lolempyrean - takes 2 weeks conversation) for those NM's just yet. Darkness is obviously awesome, but what kind of dmg does it do? Inside and out. Pyrrhic Kleos is slightly weaker on average than Dancing Edge and Evisceration and pales to Exenterator. There's not much that wouldn't survive PK --> Evis -> Darkness that would survive DE --> DE --> Scission. Hmmm... well my usual SC is either Evis > Exen or Evis > DE The extra damage from Darkness would more than make up for the base damage PK is losing I'd bet? Offline
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » mortontony1 said: » Bismarck.Sylow said: » mortontony1 said: » I was thinking of more of a "bridge" to Twashtar, I decided I want to get it, I just don't have the ability/time/people (Don't turn this into a lolempyrean - takes 2 weeks conversation) for those NM's just yet. Darkness is obviously awesome, but what kind of dmg does it do? Inside and out. Pyrrhic Kleos is slightly weaker on average than Dancing Edge and Evisceration and pales to Exenterator. There's not much that wouldn't survive PK --> Evis -> Darkness that would survive DE --> DE --> Scission. Hmmm... well my usual SC is either Evis > Exen or Evis > DE The extra damage from Darkness would more than make up for the base damage PK is losing I'd bet? Ah that would explain why you would use Evis after PK, more damage. {Understood.} now. Thank you ^^ Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » no i mean, taking into consideration of pk + agressor and your gear set for it, thats quite a lot of accuracy. Well, Hit rate is: Hit Rate (%) = 75 + floor( (Accuracy - Evasion)÷2 ) - 2×(dLVL) So if they're about Level 109-110 as I'd expect them to be, we have a 20% hit rate disadvantage to start with. 40 of our accuracy "disappears" to make up for that. Aggressor is nice, but it only adds Acc+25. mortontony1 said: » Ah that would explain why you would use Evis after PK, more damage. {Understood.} now. Thank you ^^ so basically you got a decent weapon skill-> better weapon skill with 10 more accuracy -> darkness Offline
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » mortontony1 said: » Ah that would explain why you would use Evis after PK, more damage. {Understood.} now. Thank you ^^ so basically you got a decent weapon skill-> better weapon skill with 10 more accuracy -> darkness I've been told Flourish 3's were totally useless, but what about Climactic Flourishing for PK? Would that be worthwhile? Edit: Nevermind, I thought it forced crits on non-crit WSs. My bad. mortontony1 said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » mortontony1 said: » Ah that would explain why you would use Evis after PK, more damage. {Understood.} now. Thank you ^^ so basically you got a decent weapon skill-> better weapon skill with 10 more accuracy -> darkness I've been told Flourish 3's were totally useless, but what about Climactic Flourishing for PK? Would that be worthwhile? Edit: Nevermind, I thought it forced crits on non-crit WSs. My bad. It does, but it won't show a significant increase in damage. It works so well for Rudra because the fTP on the first hit is so high. mortontony1 said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » mortontony1 said: » Ah that would explain why you would use Evis after PK, more damage. {Understood.} now. Thank you ^^ so basically you got a decent weapon skill-> better weapon skill with 10 more accuracy -> darkness I've been told Flourish 3's were totally useless, but what about Climactic Flourishing for PK? Would that be worthwhile? Edit: Nevermind, I thought it forced crits on non-crit WSs. My bad. Offline
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Alright, thank you both for all your help, I really appreciate it ^^
I've grown to really like Building Flourish. 25% attack boost is freaking amazing vs. high defense targets.
Although admittedly, it does feel a little bit dirty promoting it. It's kind of like telling someone about that really kinky porno you like.
Asymptotic told me that he merits Building Flourish instead of Reverse. True fax. Secret is out.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Asymptotic told me that he merits Building Flourish instead of Reverse. True fax. Secret is out. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Asymptotic told me that he merits Building Flourish instead of Reverse. True fax. Secret is out. If all I did were VW, I would merit Building instead of Reverse. Well, I'm almost done betraying DNC testing in favor of THF. Maybe I'll even log in to the real servers tonight!
so uhh i took some time out of my days to level a bard alt
soooooooooooooooo what are some good tp setups for when i recieve march x2 and haste (spell) edit: downloaded .net framework and ffxicalc last night and from what i see all thats required to cap haste (assuming march x2, haste (spell) and haste samba) or the new thokcha in offhand or whatever, im still 1~2% short of the true delay cap so i dont know if i should fill in with charis necklace or suppa or what edit #2: i hate double posting so yeah anyways how does Oneiros ring fare against Rajas? I know you gotta get your mp merits and whatnot Oneiros Ring Rare [Finger] All Races Accuracy+3 Latent effect: "Triple Attack"+2% LV 88 WAR MNK THF BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG COR PUP DNC Edit #3: Some itemsets i made for this outside aby was unsure of oneiros, aesir, and brutal, I haven't done an incredible amount of voidwatch on dnc, i've been on sam or whm so I'm new to this type of setup inside aby ran into some problems here, not sure if I would go with the athos gear or swap it out for soemthing else, I dont know how athos legs and etoile +2 legs would par against eachother inside aby |
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