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 Ragnarok.Dremir
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By Ragnarok.Dremir 2012-07-04 06:23:42
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Sorry if write only here, i'm from ragnarok and just endend masa 99 :D now i'm going to buff other equip, that's my calculation to mantain 4 hit + ws and masamune, touching 24% haste
(i didn't write the equip name but i guess you perfectly now what pieces i'm speaking)

TRAIT 40 40 HASTE
equip: tp ws
HEAD 8 0 6
BODY 10 0 0
BACK 3 0 0
STRAP 0 0 0
NECK 3 0 0
GLOVES 0 0 4
WAIST 0 0 7
EAR1 1 1 0
EAR2 1 1 0
RING1 5 5 0
RING2 4 0 0
FEET 5 0 3
AMMO 3 0 0
LEGS 7 7 4
90 54 24
82,8 ---> total tp at hit, so 90x4 + 54 in ws /5 hit.

How can i boost my sam now and capp haste? only think i can do i guess is find a phos +1 to get +8 haste on belt without loosing anything else, any advice?
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By Odin.Zelphes 2012-07-10 23:40:15
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This set will be better than what you currently using if you're sitting@24% haste and 5-hit.

For Shoha, you need to WS in Rose Strap/Rajas at minimum to keep 5-hit.

But you can optimize this TP set with this:


Obvious upgrades are Phos+1 (caps haste), Tenryu Tekko+1 (augments).
But both of those are very expensive, and rare in aquisition.

You're only 0.4% haste off melee cap using these sets.
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By Phoenix.Cythriell 2012-07-11 10:46:43
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What's the consensus on Beir +1 vs WS Belt vs Windbuffett?
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-07-11 10:51:40
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Not even second best.
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By Phoenix.Cythriell 2012-07-11 11:48:41
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I meant how do all 3 compare rather than how good is Beir +1 but it seems you've answered that in PM, ty!
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By Phoenix.Cythriell 2012-07-19 04:05:19
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Am I covered between waist and neck if I use WF/Mala when capped accuracy and WS items when uncapped accuracy?
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By Ragnarok.Chronictreets 2012-08-06 12:24:38
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Quick question for a new post 75 sam. I currently have no WS body piece post 75 (lolosode) and honestly the likely hood of me getting phorcy's is higher than me getting ace's mail or twilight. So I was wondering what would be a decent body piece for ws during the interim between now and me getting phorcys?

Would it be avant mail +1 for the dblattk? Or am I missing something else
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-08-06 12:26:49
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Avant Mail +1 is perfectly fine in most/all situations until you land a Phorcys.
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By Sylph.Sukasaroth 2012-08-06 12:27:21
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Pretty much yeah. Avant til Phorcys
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By Asura.Res 2012-08-12 06:09:52
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Cerberus.Sacredshot said: »
Picked up a pair of antias gloves last night, wondering how to implement them, if they're even viable; check it out.



Is this ideal until a pair of Tekko +1 w/ augs is picked up?

Unless you're somehow capping gear haste with those gloves i'd ride it out with brego til tenryu+1 personally
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2012-08-12 06:16:06
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Your link is broke but if its Antias Mitts you're talking about then no, not for Shoha.

In a TP set they could be nice.
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By Cerberus.Sacredshot 2012-08-12 06:31:12
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Picked up a pair of antias gloves last night, wondering how to implement them, if they're even viable; check it out.

TP:



Is this ideal until a pair of Tekko +1 w/ augs is picked up?

Shoha:



Missing Neo Body and Hands.

Edit: Post fixed from earlier.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2012-08-12 06:40:35
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idk the math on the Zanshin but they are definitely viable in a TP set.

At this point you're comparing less than 1% haste so I'd think they're a win.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-08-13 13:00:17
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WOuld a 99 masa beat a stardiver sam? Even on fodder? This is basically deciding if I make 99 masa or another empy 99.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-13 13:04:56
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Sac!

Test the zanshin rate. MNK Staff no DA,TA,QA gear, blind pots?

Without knowing the zanshin rate its hard to determine if they are viable or not. Chances are Brego/Tekko are better.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-08-13 13:59:47
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Sylph.Siccmade said: »
idk the math on the Zanshin but they are definitely viable in a TP set.

At this point you're comparing less than 1% haste so I'd think they're a win.

probably not tbh.

depends what buffs and stuff you have on.

and how much zanshin they give.
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if its 5% zanshin on gloves (going to assume for now) that would be a 1.25% zanhasso rate increase.

so 1.25% zanhasso rate vs .6 haste. with haste being exponential, and zanshin showing diminishing returns even more so than say DA because it procs last.

QA->TA->DA->Zanshasso (not to mention the cap on zanhasso procs is only 25%)

with this alone not even having to math out exact numbers, you can pretty much questimate that if the gloves are not over 5% zanshin, they are probably not worth it in most situations
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By Quetzalcoatl.Selim 2012-08-20 13:14:29
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Hello, looking to improve my sam gear to make it in neo nyzul. Was wondering if someone can provide me with some pointers. Thank you in advance.

WS


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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-08-20 16:59:00
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Probably Ogier's Breeches or Avant Cuisses +1 for ws. Maybe Avant Gauntlets +1 if acc is an issue on ws. I'm sure someone will say elemental belt over Windbuffet as well and I thought Unkai Sugemino was consensus for back slot for tp and ws. I did fine with a similar set when I had to fill in for one of our regular dd's. I excluded Nyzul gear for obvious reasons.

Edit - To go along with Kyte, Ganesha's Mala if your accuracy is capped as well.
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-08-20 17:00:08
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Windbuffet beats elemental if your accuracy is capped.
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By Fenrir.Kommisar 2012-08-26 17:19:00
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Shura Zunari Kabuto +1 with 4 str 3 WS dmg augment vs Mekira-Oto +1, which is better?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-26 17:29:55
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Mekira-oto +1, but keep the kabuto for kaiten.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-08-26 17:38:50
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Mekira-oto +1, but keep the kabuto for kaiten.

If there was no STR aug on the Kabuto, would the WSDMG and potetial attack still be enough to beat out Mekira+1?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-26 17:39:55
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If there was no STR, it would be worse... so no?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-08-26 17:42:15
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On his, he got an augment of 4 str with the 3% WSDMG if I'm reading that correctly. So I wasn't talking about the STR on the piece itself, just the random stat aug from synergy.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-26 17:43:30
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I'm so confused by what you're asking me. Just regular Kabuto with attack and WS DMG? and shoha/kaiten?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-08-26 17:44:51
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Yeah, for Kaiten only. I can't expect to get 4 str and 3% WSDMG on my shura head :x
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-26 17:46:17
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Capped attack kabuto should be better. I assume you wouldn't use kaiten unless your attack is capped if you have shoha.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-08-26 17:47:48
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Same would apply to Fudo as well, ya?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-26 17:48:55
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Yeah. Mekira on days for fudo or uncapped attack, shura if capped and offdays. I don't know off the top of my head for on/off days on kaiten, but I assume yes since it's similar to fudo.
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