Tachi: Shoha
Tachi: Shoha
Ogier's legs, second pyrosoul, and ganesha's mala if you don't need accuracy. Other than that I think so.
Thank you very much. I have those things so I'm happy to make the switch.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Ogier's legs, second pyrosoul, and ganesha's mala if you don't need accuracy. Other than that I think so.
Avant+1 coming out ahead for shoha. Ogier legs WSdmg boost only effects the first hit.
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I don't have any parses or sc to prove taints point on that one but from the testing I've done on various t3s especially uptala since he don't wanna gimme his body piece avant still pulls ahead by roughly 100-300 damage over ogier with my setup mind u it ain't the best yet but it works for what I have while I complete my setup.
Is the Prosilio belt any good for Shoha?
Now I'm confused... Last thread I was reading was saying to make Masamune for the additional affect and to merit Shoha 5/5. That would be the "best" setup bar Amano. But now I read that the store tp+ one is better? Can anyone actually confirm which one is better from their experiences? Thanks! I just don't want to start my friend down the wrong trials... lol
Siren.Robthunder said: »
Now I'm confused... Last thread I was reading was saying to make Masamune for the additional affect and to merit Shoha 5/5. That would be the "best" setup bar Amano. But now I read that the store tp+ one is better? Can anyone actually confirm which one is better from their experiences? Thanks! I just don't want to start my friend down the wrong trials... lol
"...but the TP bonus GK beats out everything except maybe Amano." You said this, so I thought you meant including Masamune as well. Maybe I missed something? And what is Kanto? Sorry, I'm posting for my friend, he doesn't have an account. And I've never posted before...
Siren.Robthunder said: »
"...but the TP bonus GK beats out everything except maybe Amano." You said this, so I thought you meant including Masamune as well. Maybe I missed something? And what is Kanto? Sorry, I'm posting for my friend, he doesn't have an account. And I've never posted before...
Kantonotachi, tp bonus great katana, and I can personally tell you that an 85 masamune is utter garbage compared to it, not sure about 90 masamune but I would imagine the masa still loses.
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Robthunder said: »
"...but the TP bonus GK beats out everything except maybe Amano." You said this, so I thought you meant including Masamune as well. Maybe I missed something? And what is Kanto? Sorry, I'm posting for my friend, he doesn't have an account. And I've never posted before...
Kantonotachi, tp bonus great katana, and I can personally tell you that an 85 masamune is utter garbage compared to it, not sure about 90 masamune but I would imagine the masa still loses.
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Robthunder said: »
"...but the TP bonus GK beats out everything except maybe Amano." You said this, so I thought you meant including Masamune as well. Maybe I missed something? And what is Kanto? Sorry, I'm posting for my friend, he doesn't have an account. And I've never posted before...
Kantonotachi, tp bonus great katana, and I can personally tell you that an 85 masamune is utter garbage compared to it, not sure about 90 masamune but I would imagine the masa still loses.
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And you have to take into account, people with 85 masa, are usually the idiots that use twilight fulltime and don't understand the job or what a 5 hit is.
And this is for Shoha only? Or all weaponskills? I mean back at 75 cap I knew Hagun was the best but, I didn't know if the damage rating now would make the store tp+100 GK up to par with the rest of the "end game" GKs. (ie. Masamune, Amanomurakumo). And we would most likely be leaving Masamune at 90, at least for a long time, so it basically comes down to lvl 90 masamune vs. lvl 99 Keintanotachi. And I'm gathering 5/5 Shoha is as good as it gets, WS wise?
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Robthunder said: »
"...but the TP bonus GK beats out everything except maybe Amano." You said this, so I thought you meant including Masamune as well. Maybe I missed something? And what is Kanto? Sorry, I'm posting for my friend, he doesn't have an account. And I've never posted before...
Kantonotachi, tp bonus great katana, and I can personally tell you that an 85 masamune is utter garbage compared to it, not sure about 90 masamune but I would imagine the masa still loses.
yea im not sure about the 90 masamune, I built amano before taking my masamune to 90, although i probably still will at some point, but 100% it still beats 85 masamune, actually should clarify, in a zerg situation, vw, ADL, any old 75 content nm, pw/av/sky gods/jailers etc, the kantonotachi wins, until my amano was 95 i still used the tp bonus, its that good, and so easy to make, and yes i use , instead of . Longest run on sentence ever.
Shoha = win. Fudo is nice for skillchains, but everyone I know including myself hates fudo. I have missed more fudo's than all other sam ws combined in the years I have the job.
You know if you cap attack, shoha is garbage compared to fudo right lol? Example 1. Low man stuff.
And if your white damage is more relevant, AM on 85Masa usually wins vs Kanto, I believe.
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
You know if you cap attack, shoha is garbage compared to fudo right lol? Example 1. Low man stuff.
ill post parse results tomorrow after ADL, 90 masa using fudo vs kanto shoha. shoha is never garbage 5/5, fudo is not even comparable.
.... Lol. Shoha is appealing because of the attack boost. Give sam that much of an attack boost via chaos roll and songs, and watch fudo once.
What about Masa using Shoha instead of Fudo ? Or does the dmg bonus only apply to Fudo and not other weaponskills?
Siren.Robthunder said: »
What about Masa using Shoha instead of Fudo ? Or does the dmg bonus only apply to Fudo and not other weaponskills?
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
.... Lol. Shoha is appealing because of the attack boost. Give sam that much of an attack boost via chaos roll and songs, and watch fudo once.
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
.... Lol. Shoha is appealing because of the attack boost. Give sam that much of an attack boost via chaos roll and songs, and watch fudo once.
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.
fudo
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.90....how would an 85 weapon ever compare to a 99 weapon? >.>
you claim fudo is so amazing, and im 99% sure 90 masamune using fudo will still lose miserably to kanto, also 85 masamune has more base dmg/+10str over kanto, so what is your point?
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
.... Lol. Shoha is appealing because of the attack boost. Give sam that much of an attack boost via chaos roll and songs, and watch fudo once.
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.
you claim fudo is so amazing, and im 99% sure 90 masamune using fudo will still lose miserably to kanto, also 85 masamune has more base dmg/+10str over kanto, so what is your point?
Smurfite said: »
fudo
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.90....how would an 85 weapon ever compare to a 99 weapon? >.>
you claim fudo is so amazing, and im 99% sure 90 masamune using fudo will still lose miserably to kanto, also 85 masamune has more base dmg/+10str over kanto, so what is your point?
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Smurfite said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
.... Lol. Shoha is appealing because of the attack boost. Give sam that much of an attack boost via chaos roll and songs, and watch fudo once.
4 minuets and 4 rolls, kanto still wins. I make fudo out to sound a lot worse than it actually is, but its no where near what shoha can do. Unless you are talking 4 songs/4 rolls fudo VS shoha with just subjob buffs, wouldnt be surprised to see shoha win, against a 85 masamune fudo anyway.
you claim fudo is so amazing, and im 99% sure 90 masamune using fudo will still lose miserably to kanto, also 85 masamune has more base dmg/+10str over kanto, so what is your point?
Im calling it superior to a 90 masamune, you are saying you cant compare an 85 weapon, that has higher base damage, and 10 str, to a 99 weapon, TP bonus + shoha will beat fudo everytime, and i never stated anything about a 95 masamune, I know that will beat out shoha with kanto, not in ws damage but in DOT. Cause as stated before, shoha > fudo.
Lol...
Come talk to me when you actually know something about the weapons you are talking about, and the weaponskills, its plain to see you have no clue, enjoy wiffing fudo, and doing less damage than shoha when you actually do land your ws.
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