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Apex arrow
Blows =/. Mad disappointment because I expected it to do damage rather than just look cool. Anyone done any testing that might make this WS useful because even with aftermath up, JR and even sidewinder pwn it up.
Why are you still using a bow on RNG?
Is it really that bad? Was gonna do it for SAM Quint Spear (mainly on fodder mobs in Dynamis), but saying it's weaker than Sidewinder is making me have second thoughts. Guess I'll stick to Shoha/Fudo.
Fenrir.Parak
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Hrm, have you maxed it out?
Sylph.Burrett
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are u 5/5 on it? i did nin ws 1/5 & it was doing 300-500 dmg by time i was 5/5 i was doing 3-6k ws
Bismarck.Helel said: » Why are you still using a bow on RNG? Gandiva son. And wow, no I was only 3/5 on it. Ill try 5/5 before I talk down on it. I wasnt aware the difference was that vast. Fenrir.Parak
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Yeah there is serious damage differences because of the mod %
Anyone know what element it is yet? I haven't been able to find it anywhere.
Bismarck.Helel said: » Why are you still using a bow on RNG? Really though? lol Bismarck.Helel said: » Why are you still using a bow on RNG? Sylph.Burrett said: » are u 5/5 on it? i did nin ws 1/5 & it was doing 300-500 dmg by time i was 5/5 i was doing 3-6k ws I don't know, just playing around in abby with a weak bow and weak arrows was doing 2300-2800 apex arrows 1/5. Seems pretty good to me.
If the "Ignores Defense" effect on this is fairly potent, this may end up being the Voidwatch WS of choice for rangers without a Relic. Obviously it is somewhat trumped by Coronach or Namas Arrow's enmity benefits, but it is easier to get 115 merits than 17000 coins.
Crits aren't as useful for ranged attacks (increase by a flat 25%) as for melee attacks (increases by a minimum of 50% up to 200% on stronger mobs), so Jishnu's being able to crit does not provide the same bonus against HNMs as, say, Ukko's Fury. In low cRatio situations, ignoring enough defense would trump the fTP advantage of Last Stand. Well Ranger has Dead Aim now, which is 45% crit dmg bonus @ 99, for a total of 70% damage increase on crits. Don't know if it applies to weaponskills though. I agree about apex though. Plus its harder to wiff that jishnu's is.
Dead aim doesn't apply to WS
Playing with this at lvl 3 in Abyssea during a pt, I missed about 30% of the time. Brings me back to the good old sidewinder days of not knowing if you would hit or not.
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: » This bothers me. When I started RNG back many many many moons ago, I did so with the archery in my head and it is still there. I never enjoyed shooting guns and very rarely use Xbow. Though I am more inclined to Xbow then Guns. So now we have a thread in the RNG forums, asking people to give there experiences with an Archery weaponskill and what do we get, "Use a gun or gtfo" attitude. So if you have nothing to say about the WS or any useful advice about improving the WS through gear or other means, just don't comment. But then this is the internet, if you don't have a pointless or mean thing to say, then you hardly have reason to be on here. What I'm currently using and playing with is this and /WAR:
I'm not OVERLY sure on the legs, as with the ease archery has of WSing from the sweet spot I have a suspicion that af3+2 legs will win out. Otherwise I'm confident. Was pulling around 6k average on colibri in misareaux last night, one 7.6k, a couple of 5ks. Atma were StoutArm/GH/SeaDaughter. I know lolabysseatesting but it's a static non-crit WS so the difference wont be as vast as with a crit WS. Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
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Doesn't seem like too bad a WS, honestly. Only used it a few times since I got it. My WS set for it is far from optimal:
Pretty much just a converted SW set until I have time to gather more gear. But it was doing about 1400-1800 On Qilin the other night w/ Pot a Feu, VW buffs, and berserk. 2200 + when I had Flashy Shot up. Tonight was averaging 1700-2100k on the Jeuno Tier 5 wivre with /sam, 2700+ w/ Flashy Shot up. Kinda feels like a SW w/o the Acc penalty. Phoenix.Kirana
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Just curious, has anyone figured out the max range on this? I know sidewinder had gimped range compared to other ranged WS liked arching arrow.
Only problem I have been having with trying to max AGI is the lost of Racc. This WS seems to have low Acc, similar to Sidewinder.
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good morning and merry christmas.
Last night i finally got around to unlocking apex arrow. I was able to get it 3/5 and decided to see what the dmg on it would look like. it was a very small test in the boyahda tree on the high lvl puks and crawlers. I had a friend come help me so i could stay @ perfect distance. At first i set out with a full agi set 92+48 agi, 95+35 str and +26 rng att Anwig has +15 ws acc +2% ws dmg average was 1300, high was about 1500+ with 300% tp. But there wasent much diffrence between 100, 200 and 300 tp. Then after a few ws my friend said i should try adding more rng att so i put on scout socks and the dmg went from low 1300's to mid/high 1300's. So i decided to put on a full rng att set up. 92+12 agi and 95+25 str. +85 rng att. this set gave me a little higher numbers. Between 1400-1500 per ws and the high hitting 1700. Im going to try again once im 5/5 and ill post again. But i was really hoping one of the math guru's try and see if pumping up rng att instead of agi would be better in the long run. Remember that as you get more merits into it, AGI helps it more.
Atm you only have 60% AGI mod, with 5/5 you get 100% AGI mod. Offline
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yea hopefully ill have the merits sometime this week to really test it. I wanted to see the 3/5 ws though just to get a base. ATM though its about 700ish dmg away from jishnu's
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Just wanted to say... 17*5= 85 not 100.
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