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Advice on girls, yes another one
By isttahl 2011-12-07 11:34:48
Hey OP,
I read through your original message and some of the responses that people have left you. First, I'd like to say that I do agree with the ones who think maybe you are trying to hard. Your situation reminds me of my brother honestly. He wants so much to be with someone and is constantly trying to find that special someone. Honestly, the harder you try to find someone the more likely you are to miss the right person I think.
Just let it come to you, don't try so hard. Instead of worrying so much about finding someone, work more on yourself and how you present yourself. Don't be afraid of who you are. So what if you are a nerd. There's nothing wrong with that. The right person will not only accept it, but embrace that about you. Trust me on that one.
If you are not a confident person, then fake it as was mentioned to you. To do that be confident in the things you know or do. If your meeting woman on the internet more then in person it should be a little easier to fake.
Again, because this is the most important thing, just be yourself. Don't over think situations. Remember this is a busy time of year. When you get to that 3rd back and fourth or so message, try to be bold. You need to say or do something original to set yourself apart. Remember your probably looking at a 3 to 1 ration of men to woman on dating sites. She's probably getting constant messages to weed through. Just like applying for a job, when you produce your resume you have to do something to set yourself apart. (This comes directly from my gf, one of the many things she has taught me.) If they are close enough to you ask them out for coffee or something. See if they would prefer texting or even some sore of messenger service.
Good luck and be patient. When you least expect it, is probably when you will find her and it is so worth the wait.
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-12-07 11:36:07
So what's the quickest way to get into a girls pants?
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By Siren.Mosin 2011-12-07 11:36:25
LOL at the saying "hi!" to the air XD Been there my friend >.>; Srsly though, don't think about it, jus get yourself a little swagger, wink at girls if u catch them staring at u, most importantly, jus get out there an amongst them. You will increase you chances tenfold by socialising. Oh an never ask a girl for her number straight up, disguise it in a one liner or a joke or something, but usually if shes interested she will give you it without having to even do that.
this is great advice. internet = bad, face-to-face = good
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-07 11:37:10
So what's the quickest way to get into a girls pants? Being a gynaecologist.
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By Hades.Cheyne 2011-12-07 11:37:39
It seems all the girls where I live are all taken and the ones who aren't either don't want a relationship or some kind of other reason. Maybe I'll try dating in like 5 years when I'm 26 or so. :<
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-12-07 11:37:45
Bahamut.Raenryong said: »so let them do the talking and you do the listening. You are very close to friendzone...and once you're in there...!
Should avoid it as long as you keep your responses (generally) flirtatious!
I was more referring to girls you have just met. Obv gotta make progress from there in due course.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-12-07 11:39:24
I'm flirtatious with girls I've just met :( well, within reason. Not like heavily flirtatious but definitely playful.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-12-07 11:40:23
zomg 7777!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-12-07 11:40:39
Now you can never post again.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-07 11:42:06
Bahamut.Raenryong said: »I'm flirtatious with girls I've just met :( well, within reason. Not like heavily flirtatious but definitely playful. And you have to be flirtatious if you have that kind of interest. Sure you have a high chance of rejection, but circumnavigating your aim only sets you up for the almighty FZ. Gotta show that you have that kind of interest :<
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-12-07 11:43:59
Yeah, I have no clue about dating sites. Due to the ratio of men to women, they probably quickly gloss over the guys they're not interested in. Not to mention the likely caliber of people who actually use those sites...(you excluded, of course)
If you're desperate for companionship, make some new friends. Whatever you do, don't target your new friends as potential dates. Your new friends will help introduce you to their set of friends. Those friends of your friends already have a certain level of trust in you, and it's a lot easier to get past that obstacle.
If you're a jerk, you can be held accountable through your mutual friend. Not to mention, there's now someone who she can talk to about you - and the more she talks about you, the more interested she is in you.
By Sagi 2011-12-07 11:44:14
Meh girls are trixters anyway! >.>
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2011-12-07 11:45:55
Also, to clarify, being a nerd is pretty much the only thing I'm proud of! :D
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2011-12-07 11:46:49
What a load of malarkey!!! Forget that crap! "Be yourself, but if you're shy then fake self confidence." LOL
Women! Don't listen them, they are full of it!
Here is what really drives women wild. But do not click the spoiler if you are a women. Your brain will recoil in horror and you will be ruined forever... I repeat this is for MEN ONLY fourty five years of research crammed in to....
The Most Ultimate Secret in the Universe Stop caring about what women want/need/feel/think and they will be all over you like flies on ***.
The horrible truth is you can attract more women by not caring and stuffing your undies with a couple tissues (in the front noob) than all the self help advice in the world. They are simple sexual creatures just like men, everyting else is a load.
Just relax it's your overenthusiasm that's getting in the way of the natural process, the sweaty palms, the bulgy eyes, the veins popping out on your forhead, the heavy breathing and inability to complete sentances NOT A GOOD LOOK MY FRIEND. The key is too relax and be yourself, if a women finds you physically attractive they will make up all the other stuff themselves. How many times do you see some silly girl talking about their boyfriends like he is prince charming and you say to yourself "I know that guy, he is *** idiot, he isn't any of those things she is saying!"
Do you think that guy has the mental capacity to trick her into thinking all that stuff is true about him? NO! She made it all up on her own, he just managed to keep his mouth shut for a couple minutes (probably when he was eating) and she painted that whole picture of him in her mind.
Bottom line, she liked the way the meat looked hanging in the case. Everything else is smoke, mirrors and ***. Those stories about how great he is she tells others is her kidding herself. She knows deep down he is a douche... a lie repeated often enough, to enough people becomes enough time for the physical attraction to run it's course.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2011-12-07 11:48:16
Honestly the almighty friend zone is right where I end up with 95% of girls I talk to. So many girls I'm "friends" with give the impression that if I even try to date them, I'm a bad person, because I'm "the one" guy who's not allowed to do that.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-12-07 11:48:53
What a load of malarkey!!! Forget that crap! "Be yourself, but if you're shy then fake self confidence." LOL
Women! Don't listen them, they are full of it!
Here is what really drives women wild. But do not click the spoiler if you are a women. Your brain will recoil in horror and you will be ruined forever... I repeat this is for MEN ONLY fourty five years of research crammed in to....
The Most Ultimate Secret in the Universe Stop caring about what women want/need/feel/think and they will be all over you like flies on ***.
The horrible truth is you can attract more women by not caring and stuffing your undies with a couple tissues (in the front noob) than all the self help advice in the world. They are simple sexual creatures just like men, everyting else is a load.
Just relax it's your overenthusiasm that's getting in the way of the natural process, the sweaty palms, the bulgy eyes, the veins popping out on your forhead, the heavy breathing and inability to complete sentances NOT A GOOD LOOK MY FRIEND. The key is too relax and be yourself, if a women finds you physically attractive they will make up all the other stuff themselves. How many times do you see some silly girl talking about their boyfriends like he is prince charming and you say to yourself "I know that guy, he is *** idiot, he isn't any of those things she is saying!"
Do you think that guy has the mental capacity to trick her into thinking all that stuff is true about him? NO! She made it all up on her own, he just managed to keep his mouth shut for a couple minutes (probably when he was eating) and she painted that whole picture of him in her mind.
Bottom line, she liked the way the meat looked hanging in the case. Everything else is smoke, mirrors and ***. Those stories about how great he is she tells others is her kidding herself. She knows deep down he is a douche... a lie repeated often enough, to enough people becomes enough time for the physical attraction to run it's course.
I frickin love your analogies XD
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-12-07 11:51:54
OH F**K I JUST RUINED MY 7777.
Stupid distractions >.>
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-12-07 11:52:48
OH F**K I JUST RUINED MY 7777.
Stupid distractions >.> And posting it in the wrong thread. xO
Be yourself, yadayadayada. Bye.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-12-07 11:59:46
Honestly the almighty friend zone is right where I end up with 95% of girls I talk to.
I hear you man; it's especially harder in my case. I have mild autism and I end up believing that tries to get in my way of establishing relationships with the opposite sex sometimes. So I think I'm doomed despite having 3 1-month Long relationships online D:
I just need some inspiration that I havent seen yet.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-07 12:02:53
I usually don't like pulling out Nini's book of male types, however in this case it applies well...don't be a Beta when flirting!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-12-07 12:06:37
I usually don't like pulling out Nini's book of male types, however in this case it applies well...don't be a Beta when flirting!
Don't be a beta when flirting with someone that could get an alpha*
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-12-07 12:11:50
I suggest you look up the term.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Moonsshadow 2011-12-07 12:17:39
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2011-12-07 12:18:53
Stable and good looking. :O I can deal with dumb.
/notasshallowasthatsounds
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-12-07 12:19:11
@Moonshadow People are lucky to even get 2 of the 3.
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2011-12-07 12:29:18
What a load of malarkey!!! Forget that crap! "Be yourself, but if you're shy then fake self confidence." LOL
Women! Don't listen them, they are full of it!
Here is what really drives women wild. But do not click the spoiler if you are a women. Your brain will recoil in horror and you will be ruined forever... I repeat this is for MEN ONLY fourty five years of research crammed in to....
The Most Ultimate Secret in the Universe Stop caring about what women want/need/feel/think and they will be all over you like flies on ***.
The horrible truth is you can attract more women by not caring and stuffing your undies with a couple tissues (in the front noob) than all the self help advice in the world. They are simple sexual creatures just like men, everyting else is a load.
Just relax it's your overenthusiasm that's getting in the way of the natural process, the sweaty palms, the bulgy eyes, the veins popping out on your forhead, the heavy breathing and inability to complete sentances NOT A GOOD LOOK MY FRIEND. The key is too relax and be yourself, if a women finds you physically attractive they will make up all the other stuff themselves. How many times do you see some silly girl talking about their boyfriends like he is prince charming and you say to yourself "I know that guy, he is *** idiot, he isn't any of those things she is saying!"
Do you think that guy has the mental capacity to trick her into thinking all that stuff is true about him? NO! She made it all up on her own, he just managed to keep his mouth shut for a couple minutes (probably when he was eating) and she painted that whole picture of him in her mind.
Bottom line, she liked the way the meat looked hanging in the case. Everything else is smoke, mirrors and ***. Those stories about how great he is she tells others is her kidding herself. She knows deep down he is a douche... a lie repeated often enough, to enough people becomes enough time for the physical attraction to run it's course.
Talk about getting it down pat, LOL
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-07 12:33:41
Damn thread, now all my ads are about dating sites!
By Rivers 2011-12-07 12:33:48
Also, to clarify, being a nerd is pretty much the only thing I'm proud of! :D
It's an awesome thing to be proud of, you made it sound like you had to warn girls though, and you didn't seem prideful. I could've have just interpreted it wrong though.
You should take a trip to your local book store and comc shop a couple times a week. They're amazing places to meet people and take a first date. Watch what they look at, you can instantly tell so much about a person. Even more than you'd find out through online messages.
Also don't push a relationship, it's fine to push a friendship to a degree, but let the rest evoke naturally. They day I met my girlfriend she just broke up with the last bf and was going through a real tough time at home. I liked her a lot but I knew if I pushed anything I would lose it. Patience is a virtue.
So, I was having a conversation with a female friend of mine last night about... well I honestly don't remember how it came up. Anyway, I have a habit of talking to girls once, or in class or just in any general setting and then if the next time, they don't give any indication of saying anything back I give up and move on.
For a more literal example I will go with an online situation. On a dating site like okcupid, I always give a well thought out message that leaves room for a response. Usually they respond a few times, each time the message gets longer and by about the 3rd message between us it tends to be really long. After that point, averaging 3 messages, no matter how well they go, or any indication that they dislike me (one girl literally said "have you ever met someone and after something they said, just wanted to blurt out 'marry me?'" (yes, it was odd)) they just don't respond, ever. Anyway, I always go "meh" and don't worry about it, never making an attempt to speak to them again.
Now, this situation comes along a lot. I am honestly not particularly attractive and make a point to let everyone know I am a nerd since it's literally everything I do in someway (I know that's the last thing you wanna say to a girl, but it felt relevant to the whole question). Every single time, I make a point of never making a point to greet people or go out of my way to speak to them, unless they do themselves because I believe that not taking the hint and talking to them again is the best way to make them think I am creepy. I don't talk a lot in public, but I think some people find it strange how much I talk with just them, so I am always worried people will think I'm creepy. In the end, all that really matters is the basic question based on the dating site example for ease of wording but it goes for everything, not just that specifically:
If the girl doesn't message you back, is it okay to message them again? Or is it considered creepy?
My friend is convinced it's okay to message them back, but she is a female and cute at that, I am pretty sure she has no idea what rejection is (I've known her a very long time so I know she doesn't)
I am convinced that the best way to make them decide I'm a worse creeper than the guy who runs around to every girls page and says "lets fuck", since that guy isn't paying them any special interest, where if a guy who actually took the time to give a shit, gives a shit, he may be really into them and clearly I can't take a hint.
I keep over explaining things, is it a hint to stop talking to them if they don't respond? It honestly seems pretty obvious that it is a strong hint, but my friend is convinced other wise.
Anyway, I'll restate the main question in the tl;dr:
tl;dr:
If a girl doesn't message you back on something like an online dating site, after several correspondences, does that mean you should give up and move on?
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