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Ramuh.Urial
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 31,068
By Ramuh.Urial 2011-12-03 15:37:43
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. FAN BOY!
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,901
By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 15:42:30
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance.
Ramuh.Urial
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 31,068
By Ramuh.Urial 2011-12-03 15:45:06
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance.
As far as power goes you can't top the 6990 unless you get an ASUS MARS II(lol $1500 card) but I personally can't get past the turbine of a fan. If I were building again I'd probably get the MSI GTX 580 3gb Lightning Extreme.
Ramuh.Yarly
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 802
By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-12-03 15:53:17
time to use aftermarket coolers that cost almost as much as the card itself!
Ramuh.Urial
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 31,068
By Ramuh.Urial 2011-12-03 15:54:54
time to use aftermarket coolers that cost almost as much as the card itself! Brilliant!
Edit: For old times sake.
Orly?
By oncura 2011-12-03 16:05:28
I'm actually lookin at 590 now given the price of these cards, lookin at alot of reviews and such and alot stuff comes rly close and most ppl seem to pick 1 out of how much noise they make. but im leaning to the 6990 or the 590 now mostly, even tho with getting that and a new power source im droppin another 300-400$ onto my price.
Edit: I dont think 2-3 cards in 1 CPU linked is in my near future.
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 16:05:43
As far as power goes you can't top the 6990 unless you get an ASUS MARS II(lol $1500 card) but I personally can't get past the turbine of a fan. 580 in sli out do 6990, im pretty sure 3 560 Ti do aswell. Especially from how 2 benchmark already. Im sure 6990 will make a strong fight on dx11 games, but anything 10 and under the Tri setup is going to crush a 6990 considering sli-setup already was able to contend with Dx 10 games and 9.
Just saw the Mars II, not bad but for the cost..... thats 3 580s with way more power than that card is doing.
That being said the 6990 on its own is still one hell of a card by itself.
By oncura 2011-12-03 16:13:52
As far as power goes you can't top the 6990 unless you get an ASUS MARS II(lol $1500 card) but I personally can't get past the turbine of a fan. 580 in sli out do 6990, im pretty sure 3 560 Ti do aswell. Especially from how 2 benchmark already. Im sure 6990 will make a strong fight on dx11 games, but anything 10 and under the Tri setup is going to crush a 6990 considering sli-setup already was able to contend with Dx 10 games and 9.
Just saw the Mars II, not bad but for the cost..... thats 3 580s with way more power than that card is doing.
That being said the 6990 on its own is still one hell of a card by itself. maybe i shud just start playin my cod on PC > PS3 lol..i just wanna run ffxi at its maximum state..which begs me to think y i want to get such a powerful card but, no1 has even told me how these cards run for 14
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 16:22:20
You could run FFXI with cards 2005 cards at max state. Graphically I dont think FFXI requires much.
Powerful setups are really only used for high resolutions. Its really what games are you going to play, what is your perferred fps. Most say 60 is the sweet spot.
By oncura 2011-12-03 16:28:21
You could run FFXI with cards 2005 cards at max state. Graphically I dont think FFXI requires much.
Powerful setups are really only used for high resolutions. Its really what games are you going to play, what is your perferred fps. Most say 60 is the sweet spot.
im running 11 at max right now with 4gb ram, ms500 amd turion dual core cpu and a radeon 4250 HD..11 isnt the question, tis 14. I cant even find a decent vid or post about it rly, cept this 1 where a guy running 3 580's..thats a little extreme
Intel.com's "find a cpu" thing keeps tellin me to get the i7 just cuz i clicked 3d gaming lol.
Bismarck.Dreadnot
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5,113
By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-12-03 16:52:33
I can post some screenshots of 14 from when i was playing it on max settings. I don't have any videos of it anymore.
By oncura 2011-12-03 16:56:47
Bismarck.Dreadnot said: »I can post some screenshots of 14 from when i was playing it on max settings. I don't have any videos of it anymore.
sure anything helps. what were u using?
-I've been thinking of getting the 580 or 590 and sometime around march when taxes come in goin to a dual card set up to. either way need the best bang in a single card atm i supposse jic i dont get a dual card
Bismarck.Dreadnot
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5,113
By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-12-03 17:08:21
Proc: i7 960 @ 3.4ghz (slightly overclocked)
Card: GTX 590
Mobo: EVGA x58 Classified 3 (Slightly out dated)
Ram: 12gig Corsair Vengeance DDR3 2000mhz
Game runs an average of 70fps out in the world (1920 x 1080 Res). Cities like Limsa are poorly coded and I can drop into the 40's there. The Halloween event really hurt a lot of PC's when the decoration lights came on.
Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 75
By Fenrir.Pirinolon 2011-12-03 18:34:33
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance.
GTX 560 Ti only supports 2-way sli, for tri-sli, have to look into gtx 570or higher, even so 2 GTX 560 Ti in SLI outperforms a single GTX 580 by a good chunk, u can find some benchmartks at Tom's hardware site
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Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 75
By Fenrir.Pirinolon 2011-12-03 18:36:23
Sadly even with a brand new custom built killer pc, FFXI will look still the same, u will see the diff on new games not ffxi
Ramuh.Yarly
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 802
By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-12-03 19:22:45
time to use aftermarket coolers that cost almost as much as the card itself! Brilliant!
Edit: For old times sake.
Orly?
<me>
oh shiz wrong game
By Dre 2011-12-03 19:47:08
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance.
You can't tri sli 560ti unless you get the new 448 core ones that just came out. They cost around $300 each so might aswell get 570s at that point.
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By oncura 2011-12-03 22:47:05
honestly at this point i think I've got my final build down lol. i mean i may upgrade a part or 2 by time i order it but what i got seems as clear cut as i can make it ^^
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I'll be usin this motherboard if it comes in stock or i need to site order it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188092 - and the monitor will be upped to a bravia or vizio 26"ish HDTV prolly
Edit: Not to say i wont take any ideas, or criticism e.t.c if i missed anything e.t.c. glad i listened about not going to cyberpowerpc.com this is a far better set up for a little less i believe,, then wat i had ^^
Bismarck.Dreadnot
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5,113
By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-12-03 22:54:20
The only real change I would do is bump up the ram to 6gigs. (Or 8 if it's sold in sets of 4)
By oncura 2011-12-03 23:00:04
Bismarck.Dreadnot said: »The only real change I would do is bump up the ram to 6gigs. (Or 8 if it's sold in sets of 4)
yeh i wanted to but, alot ppl seem to be against going over 16gb ram or higher mhz, keep seeing it everywhere, that at this time its rly not worth the price in the performance difference, even unoticable
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,901
By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 23:06:44
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance. GTX 560 Ti only supports 2-way sli, for tri-sli, have to look into gtx 570or higher, even so 2 GTX 560 Ti in SLI outperforms a single GTX 580 by a good chunk, u can find some benchmartks at Tom's hardware site Yea, I just spent some time reading where I had first read it, Im going to assume the person had his cards wrong or just sprouting bull. Thanks for the heads up. I shouldnt be shocked, its marketing strat on for the companies forcing people to buy the mid to high end cards to get those arrangements.
About the sli cards, Tom also has the micro-stutter article which if people like getting sli/CF setups should read. So while you might get a boost in frames, youll also get choppy play here and there.
Anyhow thanks for the correction~
By oncura 2011-12-03 23:16:06
6990 > 580 for sure so if they cost the same, pick the 6990. For the cost of a 6990, Id rather go Tri-sli GTX 560Ti. Plenty of power and minimal micro stutter problems(only precautions would be the amount of power drained and cooling needed). That and a specific board to accomodate the cards properly and not decrease performance. GTX 560 Ti only supports 2-way sli, for tri-sli, have to look into gtx 570or higher, even so 2 GTX 560 Ti in SLI outperforms a single GTX 580 by a good chunk, u can find some benchmartks at Tom's hardware site Yea, I just spent some time reading where I had first read it, Im going to assume the person had his cards wrong or just sprouting bull. Thanks for the heads up. I shouldnt be shocked, its marketing strat on for the companies forcing people to buy the mid to high end cards to get those arrangements.
About the sli cards, Tom also has the micro-stutter article which if people like getting sli/CF setups should read. So while you might get a boost in frames, youll also get choppy play here and there.
Anyhow thanks for the correction~
I tried not to pay attention to that post to much since i dont plan on going with 3 cards, i set a budget on the GPU @ 700$..preferably 6..soo 3 cards beats that neways, so got a month to read make up my mind see if 1 6990, 580 or 590 beats a 2 card set up equaling same price
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,901
By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 23:17:06
Either of those 3 cards will do you just fine, 2 of them will give you head room for more to come.
By oncura 2011-12-04 00:22:07
Anyone got opinion on an HDTV vs. a monitor? been finding some nice HDTV's around the price of the size monitor i want (24-27"). However when i look around for ppl's opinions they only talk about the 32-40"+ lcd tv's..not the smaller LCD-LED backlit ones.
Ramuh.Urial
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 31,068
By Ramuh.Urial 2011-12-04 00:47:06
Anyone got opinion on an HDTV vs. a monitor? been finding some nice HDTV's around the price of the size monitor i want (24-27"). However when i look around for ppl's opinions they only talk about the 32-40"+ lcd tv's..not the smaller LCD-LED backlit ones. Monitors have much better resolutions.
You can find 24-27" monitors and 1920x1200 beats the crap outta 1920x1080
For reference my monitor is like 3 years old and it's a 24 inch 1920x1200 and has a better resolution than an HDTV and even then 3 years ago it was only like $250.
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Diabolos.Raelia
Serveur: Diabolos
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,707
By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-04 00:53:50
Local business plug: Price the same system over at http://www.pugetsystems.com
Not sure if cheaper, but I will vouch that they will have better build quality than anyone and dead quiet hard-speed fans (instead of software controlled BS or undervolted). Seattle people take their boxen seriously. Most importantly there will be NO crapware on the machine when you get it. They change the desktop background to a Puget Systems one and that's it.
Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 75
By Fenrir.Pirinolon 2011-12-04 01:01:04
Anyone got opinion on an HDTV vs. a monitor? been finding some nice HDTV's around the price of the size monitor i want (24-27"). However when i look around for ppl's opinions they only talk about the 32-40"+ lcd tv's..not the smaller LCD-LED backlit ones.
yeah i've seen many arguments on that topic "monitor vs hdtv"
i havent owned two screens of the same size to do a realistic comparison. i've had a 1280x1024 19" lcd monitor and now i'm using a 1920x1080 32" lcd hdtv, and i'm totally satisfied, i dont have a dedicated sound card so i use the TV's built-in speakers and i'm happy with the HD video audio from the GTX 570 HDMI output.
By oncura 2011-12-04 01:09:13
Anyone got opinion on an HDTV vs. a monitor? been finding some nice HDTV's around the price of the size monitor i want (24-27"). However when i look around for ppl's opinions they only talk about the 32-40"+ lcd tv's..not the smaller LCD-LED backlit ones.
yeah i've seen many arguments on that topic "monitor vs hdtv"
i havent owned two screens of the same size to do a realistic comparison. i've had a 1280x1024 19" lcd monitor and now i'm using a 1920x1080 32" lcd hdtv, and i'm totally satisfied, i dont have a dedicated sound card so i use the TV's built-in speakers and i'm happy with the HD video audio from the GTX 570 HDMI output.
I'm thinkin maybe both..my plan is pick 1 now and get 1 later for a dual monitor, maybe in march when i get a second card. guess ill go with the SAMSUNG S27A350H ToC Rose Black 27" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor, unless we got a suggestion anywhere? i hear samsung the best but i only use bravia or vizio tv's so i cant even say i know there HDTV's quality.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9,001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-12-04 10:59:46
vizio are crap in comparison to samsung
By Raborn 2011-12-04 16:49:17
For gaming look for the highest refresh rate AKA Mhz,
Cheap TV's LCD/LED do around 60Mhz while the pricier ones do 120Mhz.
Plasma HD's tend to have far higher refresh rates (700Mhz and beyond).
I do not know what refresh rates are on the new monitors (Don't use those since I can just use my TV's (I'm a cheapass!)).
But also look for true HD 1080p+ for picture quality.
I use a 720p and occasionally transfer it to a 1080p and the difference is noticeable.
If I remember right the human eye can only see at a 45Mhz rate, but for some games due to fps stabilization and lag you may want to punch higher Mhz for the better rates.
(And if you are going to blow the money on the PC why use something that can't even bring out its capabilities.)
(Also when buying make sure you can convert or have the proper connections from your grahpic card to your desired output device)
(In my case it was having to buy a mini HDMI to standard HDMI cable).
So i had this posted elsewhere to run FFXIV but in my building at Cyberpowerpc.com i decided i want to go beyond FFXIV. Not because i play anything else but because i have the money to for once in my life due to an injury settlement. So for next 2 years im house stricken and I want a beast of a machine. My price range will go anywhere up to 2000$-3000$ (preferably 200-2500$)in the spoiler below ill put what i think (with my lack of knowledge) and I'm hoping for some changes or perhaps a better build for the buck. Building a PC part-by-part isn't for me even tho it costs less, I have no knowledge of building a PC these days especially when i figure the card i chose in my build requires liquid cooling. So any advice/help from someone who knows their PC's would be immensly helpful.
This is the AMD machine:
Price 2915$ - also considering dropping th card to a ATI Radeon 6970 to save a few hundred bucks. Case: * Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower Gaming Case with 4 Hot Swappable HDD Cage & (4) 230MM Fans
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) (500-1,200 RPM T.B. Silence Black Color with Red LED Twister Bearing 8-14 dBA)
Noise Reduction Technology: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
Power Supply Gasket
Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts
CPU: AMD FX-8150 3.60 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
Cooling Fan: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: High-Performance Non Conductive Coolant powered by Koolance (Clear Color)
Motherboard: [3-Way CrossFireX/SLI] Asus Crosshair V Formula AMD 990FX Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ UEFI Bios, ROG Connect & 7.1 SupremeFX X-FI 2 Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen2 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6990 4GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card
Video Card 2: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 1,000 Watts - Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
Hard Drive: 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 300GB Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor 10,000RPM SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache WD3000GLFS (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System
Optical Drive: LG UH12LS28K 12X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive
Sound: * Asus Xonar D1 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Sound Card
LCD Monitor: * 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 Asus VH242H LCD w/ Built-in Speaker, DVI, & HDMI
Speakers: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: USB Bluetooth 2.0 Adapter
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium(64-bit Edition
This is the Intel machine:
final price here was like 3200$ and im sure it cud be tweaked to be cheaper, some components made no sence to me just sounded nice so, a whack at it be good Case: * Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower Gaming Case with 4 Hot Swappable HDD Cage & (4) 230MM Fans
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) (500-1,200 RPM T.B. Silence Black Color with Red LED Twister Bearing 8-14 dBA)
Noise Reduction Technology: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
Power Supply Gasket
Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2700K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Ultimate OC (Ultimate Overclock 30% or more)
Cooling Fan: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: High-Performance Non Conductive Coolant powered by Koolance
Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3 Intel Z68 ATX Mainboard w/ Lucid Virtu, Intel SRT, UEFI F-Stream, & 7.1 THX TruStudio Audio, Dual GbLan, 2x HDMI, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68: 60 GB ADATA S511 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 550MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6990 4GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card
Power Supply Upgrade: 1,000 Watts - Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
Hard Drive: 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 300GB Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor 10,000RPM SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache WD3000GLFS (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System
Optical Drive: LG UH12LS28K 12X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive
Sound: * Asus Xonar D1 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Sound Card
LCD Monitor: 22" Widescreen 1680x1050 Asus VW224U LCD Display
Speakers: 600Watts PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Bluetooth: USB Bluetooth 2.0 Adapter
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Any thoughts/comments about either machine is nice, I have not a clue about cards and CPU's nemore. Only what i've read being that AMD 6990 is most powerful card on the market at the moment, and the CPU race goes either way between the 2 chosen (AMD FX 8core/Intel i7 2700). I also thot about using dual medium end cards but not sure how that would stack vs 1 high end card. Sorry for long post cuz i r moron. But perhaps it could be fun for someone to help me out ^^.
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