Young Man Raised By Lesbian Couple [video]

Coming in late but, I think the whole "absence of a father figure" is bs. It is used as an excuse for everything under the sun. It's as, if you're not raised with a father in your house, you suddenly never have experience with males, it's like they dropped off the face of the earth or something.

I was raised without a father figure and that was essentially how I felt around kids with fathers in the house. To this day I have absolutely no interest in sports and other guys look at me like I'm an *** for it (although I do have an unhealthy seek-and-destroy skill on the paintball field).

I do feel i acquired skills being raised by a single mother. I tend to be more sensitive and attuned to what a girl is thinking or feeling. I have had quite the reputation as a lady killer with only average looks/build.

@Ashman

Sounds like me and I was raised with both a father and a mother.

God forbid, a man doesn't like sports, and all of a sudden it's because he grew up without a father? I'm sure there's plenty of men, who in fact did grow up with a father, who don't like sports. It's like these two things are dependent on each other or something. If you're a male, you must like sports, and if you don't like sports, it's because you grew up without a father. C'mon, seriously?

It's a shame because the universe is so much more interesting than what's written in their little book. It seems like "theists" like to think that their religion gives their life so much meaning but the way I view it is: the fact that life is finite makes your life a lot more meaningful. I've always found heaven and concepts like that to be cop-outs, people running away from the truth and trying to make themselves feel better. If that's what helps you then fine, I'm cool with that, but I get annoyed and/or snide when people start getting preachy.

Concepts like the big-bang and the implications of that are fascinating to me, and the fact that some religious people choose to ignore all of that is something that bothers me to. The idea that life is centered around us, which many theists believe to be gospel, is outrageous to me and pisses me off slightly.

There's no basis for mutual disagreement on Biblical passages. If anyone cares to cite an example of God giving us the option of taking his message in any way other than it is written, or cares to cite a precedent for doing so, I welcome it.

If not, take it up with the Creator. You're arguing with Him, not me.


Annd again, please be sure that you're up to speed on what I'm actually saying here before you respond.

I've never gotten over the comedy of a universe created for humans that can only support humans(or atomic vibration, if you'd like to take it that far) for x-amount of time. Never mind that most of it is well endowed to destroy us prematurely at the drop of a hat.

I had a mother and father and never got into sports, was on a couple teams when I was young but was more because it was something my dad wanted to see me doing than because I actually enjoyed it. It doesn't really have to do with a lack of father its just everyone has different likes and dislikes, different strokes for different blokes and all that.

I get what you're saying now, and I pretty much agree with it.

If you're a "true believer" then the word of the bible should probably be a literally interpretation to you. Saying things like "Our lord is a peaceful and benevolent God" when the good book obviously contradicts that should be sacrilege.

But if we had everyone taking the bible literally, our world would go to Hell real quick.

So you don't care to cite an example, then? You make the assumption that my mind is made up. My mind is in a constant state of transition. You've simply yet to supply the appropriate momentum.

I'm not gonna bother reading... but how did a thread about Lesbians turn into a Religious debate? lol

Would it, though? Or would it take grand leaps for the worse, and spark a global realization in the first worlds that it simply cannot continue.

Or better still, if left to their own destructive devices, wouldn't all of the various religions kill each other for us?

Neither scenario sounds particularly displeasing to me. I'm all for a little sacrifice to get out of the modern dark ages.

Because our God is a benevolent and peaceful God, obviously... the trees give us oxygen, the animals give us food, the women give us babies, and tides go in and tides go out. You can't explain that. It was obviously made for us.

Never mind that pretty much of all the scientific community thinks that the possibility of life outside our planet is pretty much 100%. Never mind things like rouge planets, stray meteorites, time dilation, black holes, and other such things exist that probably wouldn't if a benevolent God created everything.



Those are certainly possibilities, and extraordinary things need to happen for extraordinary changes to occur. But, let's take for example, the middle east... like you said, they're probably the best example of "true theists" or people who take the word in their book as 100% fact. They're not doing so well over there... but that could just be caused by the fact that the people outside of the Middle East aren't true theists. Who knows.

Either way, we're pretty much *** if we do and *** if we don't.

I'm just waiting for the day "aliens" visit our planet (which is exteremly unlikely, I know. Considering all the factors involved with that.). Imagine the religious outrage! It would be fascinating to watch what happens, even if the aliens were peaceful... the religious people of our planet would go nuts; I can't even really imagine what would happen.

just because someone was raised with no paternal figure doesn't mean automatically dislike sports>.> i was raised with my mother (like 90% of my friends that play sports) and grandmother family only (most composed with womans) and i do like sports /play basketball, ppl like to invent a lot of cliches lol, it's kinda weird how people relate having a father for the "manly" education department. anyways there is no difference if you are raised by gay or str8 parents for me,as long they raise you with good education /with a family full of love and respecting others, it's good to see lots of open minded people on these forums/gaming community

I'm asking for you to provide evidenciary support for your assertion. I want you to make a case for me to consider. You're giving me no opportunity for dissonance.

The "don't like sports" was just an example lol. I'd feel stupid on "career day" or some kids would literally say "you don't have a daddy? THATS WEIRD".
Kids are *** evil lol. The worst part is from what I hear is things are 10x worse than when I was in school. The "no bullying" and the kids commiting suicide? Damn.

The lesbians can raise all the children for all I care. As long as they don't turn out as *** up as the shitheads my little brother goes to school with now, they can raise mine XD

Ah yes, I'm familiar with the comedy that the world was created for human beings.

Nevermind filling 75% of the surface with salt water and allowing us to exist in 0.00000000000000001% of the universe.

Genius.

But also, precisely the point.

I know there's little I can add that hasn't probably been said far better than I can say it but what the heck.

Anyone who thinks that 2 women can't successfully raise a male child is, as with any prejudice, simply ignoring the reality around them. It happens all the time. Granted the vast majority of the time it isn't a lesbian couple. Rather it's more often mom and grandma or mom and an aunt.

Are there going to be things they, as women, may not understand about being a man? Probably. But, that's no different than any other parent or set of parents out there. There are always going to be things one or both of them don't understand about the opposite sex, or sometimes even their own. How many parents out there don't learn "on-the-job?" I have no idea, but I bet it's very very few.

In what way are you a person of the Christian faith if you apply unprecedented meanings to the word of God? The faithful should rest easy knowing that they're acting precisely how God instructed them to. Its those without faith that question his message, and pervert it in a non-literal way.

Like I said, if there's a precedent to an interpretive view of Biblical text, I'm all ears. If not, you're having faith in your own views of the bible, and no longer having faith in God.

Honestly, you're right. He doesn't say we will all be gifted with these, but He wants us all to act in a way to spread these gifts as far as we can.

All I'm going to say on this topic is I have a LOT of pride in my state for allowing Gay Marriage. Hopefully this guy changed minds, although it is doubtful.

I'll be severely disappointed if it gets repealed thanks to a push from an organization not even based in Iowa. And other much smaller organizations.

o_o

I would respond with "contextually," in the same way any person is able to say things both literally and figuratively, within the context of the discussion at hand, the culture they live in, and their life as a whole, etc.

This thought comes from taking excerpts out of context, or cutting books short. If anyone has read it in it's entirety, you'd see that it talks of a way for us to act, we failed, we got a different way to act is forgiving as long as we ourselves are forgiving. Our work is done for us, all we have to do is pay it forward.