[dev1049] New Weapon Skills (yes, All Of Them)
[dev1049] New weapon skills (yes, all of them)
well the update is now mid-dec, so we can all play them LIVE and find out ^^
Since somepony asked in page 12, I tried Last Stand(5/5) naked on Teriggan mob and compared it to Slug to see the base difference. Last stand wins by quite a lot, it's going to be the best physical gun ws now, so it will have its fair use when WF isn't too reliable.
Also it has fusion property and it can do light sc.
Also tried a few times in aby with a bit of random atma(gnarled horn, sea daughter and griffon's claw)on La Theine gigas and it went from 1.8k~2.4k dmg.
Also it has fusion property and it can do light sc.
Also tried a few times in aby with a bit of random atma(gnarled horn, sea daughter and griffon's claw)on La Theine gigas and it went from 1.8k~2.4k dmg.
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Since somepony asked in page 12, I tried Last Stand(5/5) naked on Teriggan mob and compared it to Slug to see the base difference. Last stand wins by quite a lot, it's going to be the best physical gun ws now, so it will have its fair use when WF isn't too reliable.
Also it has fusion property and it can do light sc.
Also tried a few times in aby with a bit of random atma(gnarled horn, sea daughter and griffon's claw)on La Theine gigas and it went from 1.8k~2.4k dmg.
Also it has fusion property and it can do light sc.
Also tried a few times in aby with a bit of random atma(gnarled horn, sea daughter and griffon's claw)on La Theine gigas and it went from 1.8k~2.4k dmg.
Coronach will always be the "best" physical gun weapon skill. If you're talking about best damage, then Last Stand destroys pretty much every RNG weapon skill. I tested it on Pil with RCB + VS + tonic + bravers and was doing 2.2k consistently. My gear wasn't the best either. I'm missing AGI rings and one AGI earring.
Additional notes:
-The weaponskill looks AMAZING. Dunno why they decided to show apex arrow instead in their preview vid.
-Does use 2 ammunition, but recycle can proc.
-Should be an amazing zerg weapon skill when you don't have to worry about hate.
Test was with annihilator + dark adaman bullets and the most AGI I could find.
Bismarck.Helel said: »
The weaponskill looks AMAZING.
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Im begining to believe that SE really wants us to use our JA together. Like Souleater drains way less from ur hp than it used to but still outputs amazing damage.
Anything Scythe does, GS now does staggeringly better. Single hit? Torcleaver. Multihit+Souleater? Resolution.
Resolution is STR mod. Go ahead and speculate about INT mod applications, Entropy is still yet another joke Guillotine clone.
Well since the Scythe is still a 4-Hit WS SE probably can make a difference in the actual dmg im going to go use INT gear and MM to see how much the difference is in damage.
Question. Has anyone seen if there is possibly a 2nd mod on any of the WS? Kinda thinking that maybe Entropy may just be the Aspir version of Catastrophe :o
Wish I could test these without having to pay money to SE :(
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »
Wish I could test these without having to pay money to SE :(
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
Kinda scared as to what the question may be D:
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »
Wish I could test these without having to pay money to SE :(
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
Kinda scared as to what the question may be D:
lol it's stupid.
I'm just curious how it works (I really didn't read up on it) do you import a character of yours or can you say ... give it gear with a command or something and make the character all pimped out to test stuff?
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »
Wish I could test these without having to pay money to SE :(
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
I got a question about the test server maybe someone can PM me that can answer my silly questions.
Kinda scared as to what the question may be D:
lol it's stupid.
I'm just curious how it works (I really didn't read up on it) do you import a character of yours or can you say ... give it gear with a command or something and make the character all pimped out to test stuff?
It copies one of your active characters and you can modify it's level and skill the way you want; also you can aquire freely all gear that can be stored with storage slips.
Oh well hmmm.
Wish this guy would pay me :| I might just pay for 1 month to screw around on the test server lol.
Probably the only thing I would do :p
Wish this guy would pay me :| I might just pay for 1 month to screw around on the test server lol.
Probably the only thing I would do :p
You do import ur char but idk if that actually removes him from your original server lol i've been on the test server lately havent actually played on my server in a week XD
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
You do import ur char but idk if that actually removes him from your original server lol i've been on the test server lately havent actually played on my server in a week XD
it does not, it just makes a copy of your data so that you can play with on the test server.
Are there any results from the Dagger WS in and out of Abyssea yet?
sorry im late to the party,
im fairly happy they put blu on club but why the hell are both blu ws's mnd ._.
well my im happy for my bst atleast,
im fairly happy they put blu on club but why the hell are both blu ws's mnd ._.
well my im happy for my bst atleast,
Anyone test new H2H WS vs. VictorySmite yet?
Happy there are no crit weaponskills. those made for some terrible imbalance.
Mithra = too many flips, they dont even look good doing them
Elvaan tossing the bow in the air is awesome, probably makes the bow my favorite ws.
Mithra = too many flips, they dont even look good doing them
Elvaan tossing the bow in the air is awesome, probably makes the bow my favorite ws.
Victory Smite is stronger with revy fists, can only think it goes even better with Vere.
You jelly?
Shiva.Keyera said: »
Mithra = too many flips, they dont even look good doing them
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Anyone testing these new ws in abyssea is doing it wrongs, abyssea is over and why would you even think these would stack up against crit hit ws in abyssea ?
The mnk ws matches vs outisde abyssea aswell by the way.
The mnk ws matches vs outisde abyssea aswell by the way.
Lots of testing still being done, but this is the last summary I could find.
From BG:
From BG:
Quote:
GAX : A better KJ ? Not as good as Ukko?
H2H : Nothing on VS but better than the rest, also guessing not as good as Pummel?
Scythe: Cata like
GS: Slightly behind torch
Sword: Better than CDC outside abyssea?
Dagger: Best WS unbuff (aka no SATA)
Club: Best ws
GK: Best ws
Axe: Best ws
Katana: Slightly behind hi better than jin
Archery& Marksmanship: Not sure on these 2, anyone willing to give some clue?
Staff: Best ws
Polearm: Very close to drakes? Or at least a very strong 2nd ?
H2H : Nothing on VS but better than the rest, also guessing not as good as Pummel?
Scythe: Cata like
GS: Slightly behind torch
Sword: Better than CDC outside abyssea?
Dagger: Best WS unbuff (aka no SATA)
Club: Best ws
GK: Best ws
Axe: Best ws
Katana: Slightly behind hi better than jin
Archery& Marksmanship: Not sure on these 2, anyone willing to give some clue?
Staff: Best ws
Polearm: Very close to drakes? Or at least a very strong 2nd ?
I think sword is very dependent on what job is using it
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Lots of testing still being done, but this is the last summary I could find.
From BG:
From BG:
Quote:
GAX : A better KJ ? Not as good as Ukko?
H2H : Nothing on VS but better than the rest, also guessing not as good as Pummel?
Scythe: Cata like
GS: Slightly behind torch
Sword: Better than CDC outside abyssea?
Dagger: Best WS unbuff (aka no SATA)
Club: Best ws
GK: Best ws
Axe: Best ws
Katana: Slightly behind hi better than jin
Archery& Marksmanship: Not sure on these 2, anyone willing to give some clue?
Staff: Best ws
Polearm: Very close to drakes? Or at least a very strong 2nd ?
H2H : Nothing on VS but better than the rest, also guessing not as good as Pummel?
Scythe: Cata like
GS: Slightly behind torch
Sword: Better than CDC outside abyssea?
Dagger: Best WS unbuff (aka no SATA)
Club: Best ws
GK: Best ws
Axe: Best ws
Katana: Slightly behind hi better than jin
Archery& Marksmanship: Not sure on these 2, anyone willing to give some clue?
Staff: Best ws
Polearm: Very close to drakes? Or at least a very strong 2nd ?
Posted by someone who has most of the information wrong.
outside abyssea
Sword ws is better than cdc
Gkt ws best
H2h ws - Similar
Great axe - From the limited testing seen it appeared to be similar
Pleased to hear about the polearm WS :> Stardiver (decreases criteva) + Drakes (crit-based WS) = some extra DMG from I think someone said Gravitation SC. Sounds pretty cool to me :>
Some of that is derived from very speculative analysis, because only a few people have been formally testing these as opposed to HERP DERP ABYSSEA DAMAGE IN FULL AF3 etc. I'd hoped to have all the ones I care about and then some nailed down by now but it took forever to get the test client installed yesterday and once I finally finished it still didn't work, so I'm having to download and install everything again. Voidwatch tonight so I won't have anything til tomorrow night probably, assuming more people don't bring good data forward in the meantime.
Sword and Katana weaponskill viability will in part depend on the strength of their attack bonuses. Sword will have niche applications regardless though in that it's non-elemental damage and thus I believe it should ignore a lot of normal physical damage resistances (ex performs well on elementals).
Byrth has fully tested Last Stand, and at 5/5 merits it's Marksmanship's highest damage weaponskill with ease.
Sword and Katana weaponskill viability will in part depend on the strength of their attack bonuses. Sword will have niche applications regardless though in that it's non-elemental damage and thus I believe it should ignore a lot of normal physical damage resistances (ex performs well on elementals).
Byrth has fully tested Last Stand, and at 5/5 merits it's Marksmanship's highest damage weaponskill with ease.
Valefor.Fujita said: »
H2h ws - Similar
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Valefor.Fujita said: »
H2h ws - Similar
Talking about this test posted here
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17519-New-Monk-Weapon-skills
Official forums, there's your problem.
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ah, the words I wanted to hear
So you will be able to try each and every one of them out! Hope you are looking forward to it!
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