Valefor.Xxdrake said: »
Night how do you think bravura will stack up against ukon now im asking you because you seem to know your *** :D
[dev1049] New Weapon Skills (yes, All Of Them)
[dev1049] New weapon skills (yes, all of them)
I don't have any solid data on the new WS, nor 99 Bravura's afterglow effect, so really can't say, but I think it'll still be a utility weapon moreso than the ultimate DPS machine for WAR.
Ruinator numbers on BST vs Robber Crab.
2024 1935 1652 1672 1695 1808 1699 1718 1586 1506
Rampage
1237 1198 1349 1209 1494 1364 953 1727 919 1911 1045
152 STR used for both.
2024 1935 1652 1672 1695 1808 1699 1718 1586 1506
Rampage
1237 1198 1349 1209 1494 1364 953 1727 919 1911 1045
152 STR used for both.
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Any news on the Blade: Shun?
Mods and %?
Really wish it had para afteraffect, that be our Jubaku Ni ;;
Mods and %?
Really wish it had para afteraffect, that be our Jubaku Ni ;;
Not much info on Katana, just says it's modded by Attack.
Bynie+1........... again?
Attack........ i just sold mars ring, fml
okote again?? :O :3
okote again?? :O :3
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Not much info on Katana, just says it's modded by Attack.
Hm, gunna build a kikoku just in case.
BST/SAM wih Scythe might be an option now lol?
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Tachi: Shoha ~ making me hate my Masamune more.
Bismarck.Eburo said: »
Tachi: Shoha ~ making me hate my Masamune more.
Why? Spamming Fudo for aftermath and then Shoha would still out DD any other GK when the ODD comes into play. TP bonus would be situational but an empy is never a waste. It's like being mad that you made Caladbolg because the new weaponskill may spike higher then torcleaver.
Because I don't really use my SAM for anything other than zerging things outside Abyssea, i.e. Voidwatch, and for example with Qilin I'm doing about 15:85 auto-attack to WS damage ratio. With Aftermath up full time of course.
I could essentially just use whatever higher base damage GK comes out for Lv99 and use Shoha only and probably see a gain in those circumstances.
I don't know though, tbh I'm just a little flustered 'cause I assumed the new WS wouldn't hit harder than Fudo.
I could essentially just use whatever higher base damage GK comes out for Lv99 and use Shoha only and probably see a gain in those circumstances.
I don't know though, tbh I'm just a little flustered 'cause I assumed the new WS wouldn't hit harder than Fudo.
Dunno it's not like you made say an Ukon and Ukkos Fury gets obliterated by a merited weaponskill for example. La Thiene Empys aren't too bad in terms of time spent. Unless you spent gil on 1500 plates I wouldn't regret it to be honest.
Fudos damage kinda blows on high defense stuff. it's good you have an option that isn't tachi kasha/gekko to fall back on. (In the same boat with torcleaver/spinning slash)
Fudos damage kinda blows on high defense stuff. it's good you have an option that isn't tachi kasha/gekko to fall back on. (In the same boat with torcleaver/spinning slash)
My Masamune is only Lv85 though, 'cause I lack motivation. :x
I did however begin a Ukonvasara. I haven't seen anything detailed about the new Great Axe WS yet.
I agree about Fudo damage btw, I've easily done 4,000 damage with Fudo to Salvage/Nyzul etc. mobs, but in Voidwatch T3+ I have yet to even break 2,000.
That's fully buffed with Red Curry Bun and this set:
I did however begin a Ukonvasara. I haven't seen anything detailed about the new Great Axe WS yet.
I agree about Fudo damage btw, I've easily done 4,000 damage with Fudo to Salvage/Nyzul etc. mobs, but in Voidwatch T3+ I have yet to even break 2,000.
That's fully buffed with Red Curry Bun and this set:
It seems decent but to be honest I only see myself using it with Mighty Strikes up. (I like using Gsword with mightystrikes though lol for shits and giggles you know?)
It seems really nice though, need alot more testing though imo.
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
WAR/SAM(Discipline+Coercion Lv10) VW T1 Jeuno Batalia Downs (Cherufe) He used Granite Skin and Boiling Blood after the first WS. For ALL WS(including Ukko's) I used a Attack>STR>VIT set (main notable pieces that wouldn't be in an Ukko's set were Twilight Helm(+2 would've been better but I wanted to maximize Attack, VIT, and STR instead of DA chance), Ares body, Heafoc Mitts, and Hecatomb Leggings +1 w/ STR+3 (and other non relevant to GA stats)) All WS were performed with Stalwarts and Braver's, 103+118 STR, over 999 Attack, and around 26% total DA.
First: Upheaval 300%: 1974
Second: Mighty Strikes 300% Upheaval: 4944
Third: Mighty Strikes 100% Ukko's Furry: 2222 (probably a miss, but Save TP and heavy Regain skewed my TP return so I couldn't tell)
Fourth: Mighty Strikes 100% Upheaval: 3339 Then I died :< Edit: I think Ukko's will still win for more relevant NMs, because of crits. This WS however might push Bravura over Ukonvasara though.
First: Upheaval 300%: 1974
Second: Mighty Strikes 300% Upheaval: 4944
Third: Mighty Strikes 100% Ukko's Furry: 2222 (probably a miss, but Save TP and heavy Regain skewed my TP return so I couldn't tell)
Fourth: Mighty Strikes 100% Upheaval: 3339 Then I died :< Edit: I think Ukko's will still win for more relevant NMs, because of crits. This WS however might push Bravura over Ukonvasara though.
It seems really nice though, need alot more testing though imo.
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Bismarck.Eburo said: »
Tachi: Shoha ~ making me hate my Masamune more.
Why? Spamming Fudo for aftermath and then Shoha would still out DD any other GK when the ODD comes into play. TP bonus would be situational but an empy is never a waste. It's like being mad that you made Caladbolg because the new weaponskill may spike higher then torcleaver.
Mythic gkt is now best and its going to be close between masa and amano from the limited info we have so far masa isnt beating amano by far or even if at all.
I haven't really read into the Kogarasumaru myself, but what puts it at the top?
Aren't most mythics jumping to the top now?
Some are yes, but Kogara is now beastly lol. I saw a 95 Kogarasumaru user last night, doin Qilin. I was thinking to myself, "Oh man..that guy is one lucky *** now". As much as I like Rana, its fairly weak compared to Fudo and even Gekko/Kasha.
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Untouchablevoid said: »
Quote:
H2H: Shijin Spiral Five-Hit WS, Additional Effect: Plague. TP mods chance of Plague.
Dagger: Exenterator Four-Hit WS, Additional Effect: Accuracy Down. Duration of effect varies with TP.
Sword: Requiescat Five-Hit WS, Non-elemental damage. TP mods Attack (Not sure what it means by this)
Great Sword: Resolution Five-Hit WS, Damage varies with TP.
Axe: Ruinator Four-Hit WS, Accuracy varies with TP. Great Axe: Upheaval Four-Hit WS, Damage varies with TP.
Scythe: Entropy Four-Hit WS, restores MP based on damage dealt. Damage varies with TP.
Polearm: Stardiver Four-Hit WS, lowers enemy critical hit evasion. Damage varies with TP.
Katana: Blade: Shun Five-Hit WS. TP mods Attack (Same characters as sword)
Great Katana: Tachi: Shoha Two-Hit WS. Damage varies with TP.
Club: Realmrazer Seven-Hit WS. Accuracy varies with TP.
Staff: Shattersoul Four-Hit WS. Lowers enemy magic defense. Chance of effect varies with TP.
Bow: Apex Arrow Triple Damage that ignores defense. Amount ignored varies with TP.
Marksmanship: Last Stand 1-2 Hits, based on ammo remaining. Damage varies with TP.
EDIT: In a Perusal of the JP wiki I've found out the descriptions for the new Sword and Katana WS TP mods have only ever been used before for Iron Tempest and Sturmwind in the JP version. It's exactly what it says on the tin: your attack is modded instead of your F.T.P. In the English version of the game, this distinction is not made and it simply says "Damage varies with TP" for those two weapon skills. It seems that they're taking into consideration that PLD and NIN may have hard times against enemies with high defense and thus made TP mod attack this time instead of F.T.P.
Dagger: Exenterator Four-Hit WS, Additional Effect: Accuracy Down. Duration of effect varies with TP.
Sword: Requiescat Five-Hit WS, Non-elemental damage. TP mods Attack (Not sure what it means by this)
Great Sword: Resolution Five-Hit WS, Damage varies with TP.
Axe: Ruinator Four-Hit WS, Accuracy varies with TP. Great Axe: Upheaval Four-Hit WS, Damage varies with TP.
Scythe: Entropy Four-Hit WS, restores MP based on damage dealt. Damage varies with TP.
Polearm: Stardiver Four-Hit WS, lowers enemy critical hit evasion. Damage varies with TP.
Katana: Blade: Shun Five-Hit WS. TP mods Attack (Same characters as sword)
Great Katana: Tachi: Shoha Two-Hit WS. Damage varies with TP.
Club: Realmrazer Seven-Hit WS. Accuracy varies with TP.
Staff: Shattersoul Four-Hit WS. Lowers enemy magic defense. Chance of effect varies with TP.
Bow: Apex Arrow Triple Damage that ignores defense. Amount ignored varies with TP.
Marksmanship: Last Stand 1-2 Hits, based on ammo remaining. Damage varies with TP.
EDIT: In a Perusal of the JP wiki I've found out the descriptions for the new Sword and Katana WS TP mods have only ever been used before for Iron Tempest and Sturmwind in the JP version. It's exactly what it says on the tin: your attack is modded instead of your F.T.P. In the English version of the game, this distinction is not made and it simply says "Damage varies with TP" for those two weapon skills. It seems that they're taking into consideration that PLD and NIN may have hard times against enemies with high defense and thus made TP mod attack this time instead of F.T.P.
This is the part I'm most curious about. I'm assuming that gets stronger the fewer bullets you have left.
It's a miss-translation. (ish)
It's supposed to say, "ammunition permitting". The same description on Jishnu's Radiance.
If you want to test unlimited shot/1ammo, then test it with that. (I don't see why it wouldn't work, except that you would obviously only hit 1 of the 2 hits.)
Also to note, the TP effect on the staff WS is duration, not chance of effect.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
OA2-3
Rana would basically turn into Penta Thrust for a Great Katana? Enhanced WSDMG, the weaponskill itself being able to 4-5 Hit. You ride the aftermath spamming Shoha (could do 3-4 hits often with aftermath up) with a 5 hit build. Hopefully you can reach 100TP in just two attack rounds with Oa2-3 going off. It has potential really.
I'm at school atm so no FFXIcalc.
Kogarasumaru
(Great Katana) All Races
DMG: 120 Delay: 450
Enhances "Third Eye" Ability IV
"Tachi: Rana"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice or thrice
Lv. 95 SAM
Not possible to 4 hit it yet or even ghetto 4 hit it. But a 5 hit is really easy to make.Looks great for spam though
Ramuh.Austar said: »
On a different note I take back the whole reskin of gekko for the new GK, it clearly is not(pic animation was misleading and I failed at jumping to conclusions of predicting SE) and so much better an animation than I could hope for. I really love that animation. If these ws are to be our last gained(speculating, SE hasnt said anything mind you)I can say it looks worthy of being a last gained sam WS. Did I meantion I like this animation??
And its damage is, on early testing, better than Fudo.... it makes me happy that I started my Amano recently ^^
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
On a different note I take back the whole reskin of gekko for the new GK, it clearly is not(pic animation was misleading and I failed at jumping to conclusions of predicting SE) and so much better an animation than I could hope for. I really love that animation. If these ws are to be our last gained(speculating, SE hasnt said anything mind you)I can say it looks worthy of being a last gained sam WS. Did I meantion I like this animation??
Penta thrust was great for low defense/ high attack situations. Like you know Tomoe in certain Einherjar chambers. Now Samurai really doesn't have to switch weapons or use Fudo for those said situations. Multihit WS spam is what I meant I guess. Rana should be on par with penta now but without the skill difference.
So you will be able to try each and every one of them out! Hope you are looking forward to it!
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