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 Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-17 10:55:14
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No moves I think, they said the frog was gonna be just a pointless thing put in there for fun.
 
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-11-17 10:57:01
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
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Diabolos: Pavor Nocturnus (Lv. 98)
Lures an enemy into an eternal nightmare.
this made me lol though. "An eternal nightmare..... " eternal is what, 5 seconds you think? I think 6 is pushing it for a SE "eternity"
ftfy ;)
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By Fenrir.Hyar 2011-11-17 10:57:18
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
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Diabolos: Pavor Nocturnus (Lv. 98)
Lures an enemy into an eternal nightmare.
this made me lol though. "An eternal nightmare..... " eternal is what, 5 seconds you think? I think 6 is pushing it for a SE "eternity"

If you're not using it on EP or TW mobs you're doing it wrong.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-17 10:58:12
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Could it be some form of sleep that lasts through hits? Like Dream flower from Nightmare mandies.
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-11-17 11:04:43
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nice that they actualy listed moves for blu for once.
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By lilsanchez 2011-11-17 11:46:42
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Sigh again SCH doesnt get any form of WHM ability loving. F U, S E. Other then that not too bad!

SCH Cure V can i has it?

SE: Hell naw, you can continue to suffer!!
Maybe later...
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By Ragnarok.Ghishlain 2011-11-17 11:53:14
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Cura III for WHM! <3
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-11-17 11:58:31
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
I hope that DRK will get something besides a spell released in 2003.


nup.
You kidding?! That's the best part of this update. I've been wanting Thunder III on DRK ever since I started playing. Now I can magic burst for 80 damage and it'll only cost me about 25% of my max MP!

I'm sure they'll add a JA for DRK too.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-17 12:09:52
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Woohoo blu spells!
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By Fenrir.Hyar 2011-11-17 12:26:51
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
Phoenix.Urteil said: »
I hope that DRK will get something besides a spell released in 2003.


nup.
You kidding?! That's the best part of this update. I've been wanting Thunder III on DRK ever since I started playing. Now I can magic burst for 80 damage and it'll only cost me about 25% of my max MP!

I'm sure they'll add a JA for DRK too.

You forgot about getting MaB atmas, can increase that damage to 200 with a magic burst!
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-11-17 12:43:50
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And I went.
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2011-11-17 12:53:53
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Ragnarok.Ghishlain said: »
Cura III for WHM! <3
Cura III is going to be amazing shame must WHMs dont know how to use it >.>
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-17 12:58:25
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Because WHM is having MP efficiency issues, right?

The cura line is useless.
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By Fenrir.Loraley 2011-11-17 13:01:39
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I'm glad they adjusted the enmity gain on cure IV and such a while back, but I really, really wish my RDM or SCH could Cure V. I used to actually have options when someone wanted a healing job. Now it's just WHM.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-11-17 13:01:59
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Because WHM is having MP efficiency issues, right?

The cura line is useless.

Eh, if you're standing in range for whatever reason and get blasted by low-medium damage, Cura II is by far the best spell you can use to cure. It's not as much about the MP cost as it really is about the lower cast time, imo.

Cura II has a cast time of 3 seconds, as opposed to 4.75 seconds Curaga II and 5 seconds Curaga III.

Not a staggering difference really, but it's still there.
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-11-17 13:04:50
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Erm, im good @whm,but since you gonna be really top,can you teach me how to use the cura line spells plz? ^^
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-17 13:05:24
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Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Because WHM is having MP efficiency issues, right?

The cura line is useless.

Eh, if you're standing in range for whatever reason and get blasted by low-medium damage, Cura II is by far the best spell you can use to cure. It's not as much about the MP cost as it really is about the lower cast time.

Cura II has a cast time of 3 seconds, as opposed to 4.75 seconds Curaga II and 5 seconds Curaga III.

Not a staggering difference really, but it's still there.

If those precious seconds are the justification for using cura, you're putting your entire party's safety in jeopardy by standing in range.

Cura is useless.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-17 13:10:48
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i honestly dont know why they havent increased elemental for drk... i mean idk why they keep adding for it when its so useless. either make it do dmg on par with rdm or drop it. our mp pool sucks and so does our elemental.

srsly SE just give us a JA that makes our next ele spell autocrit. then "maybe" we would think about casting it. otherwise its just to proc.
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2011-11-17 13:13:40
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Because WHM is having MP efficiency issues, right?

The cura line is useless.

Eh, if you're standing in range for whatever reason and get blasted by low-medium damage, Cura II is by far the best spell you can use to cure. It's not as much about the MP cost as it really is about the lower cast time.

Cura II has a cast time of 3 seconds, as opposed to 4.75 seconds Curaga II and 5 seconds Curaga III.

Not a staggering difference really, but it's still there.

If those precious seconds are the justification for using cura, you're putting your entire party's safety in jeopardy by standing in range.

Cura is useless.

If they add new wings to einherjar cura will be even more useful than it already is.
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
i honestly dont know why they havent increased elemental for drk... i mean idk why they keep adding for it when its so useless. either make it do dmg on par with rdm or drop it. our mp pool sucks and so does our elemental.

srsly SE just give us a JA that makes our next ele spell autocrit. then "maybe" we would think about casting it. otherwise its just to proc.
i think the answer for that was scarlet delirium but nuking on drk isn't viable really..
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-17 13:15:40
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Or you could use curaga, the spell that doesn't require you put yourself in harm's way to do what you were already capable of doing. Hey, now it even comes in an enmity-light model, to circumvent another thing that wasn't an issue beforehand.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-11-17 13:18:09
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Because WHM is having MP efficiency issues, right?

The cura line is useless.

Eh, if you're standing in range for whatever reason and get blasted by low-medium damage, Cura II is by far the best spell you can use to cure. It's not as much about the MP cost as it really is about the lower cast time.

Cura II has a cast time of 3 seconds, as opposed to 4.75 seconds Curaga II and 5 seconds Curaga III.

Not a staggering difference really, but it's still there.

If those precious seconds are the justification for using cura, you're putting your entire party's safety in jeopardy by standing in range.

Cura is useless.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's completely useless as just very, very situational.

I never said I stand in range just to use it. I've had a few times where a mob's moved into my range as whm and damaged the party. In those cases, Cura isn't bad. Otherwise, yeah I'll agree that Cura is worthless.
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2011-11-17 13:18:22
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Or you could use curaga, the spell that doesn't require you put yourself in harm's way to do what you were already capable of doing. Hey, now it even comes in an enmity-light model, to circumvent another thing that wasn't an issue beforehand.
In situations like Einherjar you usually in range for esuna so cura comes in handy.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-17 13:20:28
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Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Or you could use curaga, the spell that doesn't require you put yourself in harm's way to do what you were already capable of doing. Hey, now it even comes in an enmity-light model, to circumvent another thing that wasn't an issue beforehand.
In situations like Einherjar you usually in range for esuna so cura comes in handy.

Cite a situation where you would use cura, and I'll tell you exactly why its a bad idea.
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By Fenrir.Motenten 2011-11-17 13:23:24
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
If those precious seconds are the justification for using cura, you're putting your entire party's safety in jeopardy by standing in range.

Cura is useless.

Eh, whm is one of the safest jobs to have in range of AOEs (primarily magical). As long as the mob doesn't have some annoying paralyze/silence aura/AOE or whatever, then staying out of range is mostly just for convenience.

Even with that, though, Cura is still mostly useless due to the enormous recast time (~10 seconds for curagas, 40 seconds for curas).
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By Leviathan.Frotaut 2011-11-17 13:24:12
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Am i the only pld that was hoping to see cure V for pld? not for nothing but we've had the same tier healing since 75 lil love , would help with hate management and wow i could actually heal myself again.
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2011-11-17 13:25:47
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Leviathan.Frotaut said: »
Am i the only pld that was hoping to see cure V for pld? not for nothing but we've had the same tier healing since 75 lil love , would help with hate management and wow i could actually heal myself again.

You'd want a cure that has the enmity of a tier III cure for "Hate Management?"
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-11-17 13:27:08
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Leviathan.Frotaut said: »
Am i the only pld that was hoping to see cure V for pld? not for nothing but we've had the same tier healing since 75 lil love , would help with hate management and wow i could actually heal myself again.

Doesn't a full Cure V generate less enmity than a full Cure IV? lol.
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