PETA Seriously... Going After Mario..

Pretty poor argument, IMO. It goes both ways.

"GIRAFFE KILLS MILLIONS!"


Came across this on FB.
GRAPHIC CONTENT! WARNING! WARNING!

An example of why fur is bad.

In my mind it's all about balance. Granted I wouldn't call our current condition balanced since we're facing a severe overpopulation issue with more and more scarcity in resources vital to even survive.
But there's a reason there aren't many animals roaming the streets in their natural feral nature.
It's because we've populated most of the world and have an organized infrastructure that doesn't permit "natural" animals to live in. Granted it tends to be a convenient oasis for some animals that would otherwise live in the wild; but after all, it was us that built over their home.

However, opening the zoo gates and blowing ***up and pointing the finger to fictitious accounts of false animal abuse isn't the practical solution. If anything it would result in the unnecessary death of those they wished to liberate in the first place.

Peta has probably hurt the animal rights movement more than they've ever helped it. When you're trying to show your view on something, you'll get a much better reaction from people presenting your facts in a calm, mature, intelligent manner. Peta however, uses scare tactics and comes off in such a brash manner that most sane people just immediately dismiss them. Are they making some good points in their craziness somewhere? Probably, but most people are too disgusted by them to see that far.

And they hand out things like this to school children (as young as 6yrs old). As a parent, if I found out someone had given one of my children something like that, there would be no quelling my rage.

I have and will continue to support my local SPCA before blinking twice at peta, and seriously urge anyone who wants to support animals to do the same. At least here in canada, the spca does some amazing work, and rely almost soley on donations from the public to keep running.

Some facts about peta

Edit: Didn't realize the name of the comic link, lol. Not trying to start a war on vegitarians, that's just where I happened to find those pictures.

I don't hate the idea of PETA I hate the ideas PETA has >.>

This is the only animal rescue organization I have ever donated to (multiple times) and even brought an abandoned litter of kittens to one time. Why? Not just because they are local to me, but they have a strict 'No Kill' Policy.

Organizations like these are the ones people should support.

Unfortunately, in some cases, it is more humane, and more fair to the animal to put them down. I've seen some of these places with strict no kill policies let poor dogs and cats suffer through debilitating, painful, and ultimately terminal illnesses. In those (rare) cases, I'm for putting the animal down. That extra month of life is nothing but.

I disagree 110%. People think Peta's actions are harsh, but they just show you what is going on behind clothes doors. Having seen most of their videos, pamphlets, and presentations, I find them very educational. It is so easy for carnivores to dismiss the fact that animals have feelings and actually matter because you can't think past benefiting yourself. I find that educating children about where they get their food from is the kind of eye-opener that children need to change the way America thinks about factory farms. Sure, it might be a catastrophic thing for a child to see, but they're so easily influenced, that I find it necessary.

Being a vegetarian for over half my life, and being vegan for about 6 years, I find the benefits of healthy subsidizing and having a well-balance nutrition not only physically satisfying, but also mentally, for the fact that I help reduce the need for factory farms and needless killing.

I also find it utterly disgusting that people are so compassionate about Sparky, the family dog, but NOT about the millions of animals a day that are butchered and put on your plate.

Sounds like their propaganda got to your head there buddy.


Also, this is why we can't have nice things.

Making a smart life choice for myself isn't propaganda.

I find your argument to lack proper thought other than stupidity.

Says the one insisting we propagate violent images and biased information with ulterior motives to children.
And I thought religious nuts were bad.

By no kill, they generally refer to healthy or able to be brought back to a healthy state and adoptable cases. I highly doubt they're going to keep an animal alive just for the sake of keeping it alive.

There's some places like in Miami where if they found a stray dog (no tags) with a broken leg their policy is to kill it. Whereas in a place like Houston, they would fix the leg and rehabilitate it to the point where it could be adoptable.

And the "ulterior" motives are? Sorry, you can't just believe what one butt hurt carnivore puts on the internet.

It's okay, I don't need to pick sides or view anything else when PETA's actions speak for themselves in volumes.

I've still yet to see the people drinking the PETA kool-aid explain why PETA kills more animals (most are healthy btw) than they save.

If you could explain why an organization that claims to be for the liberation of animals kills thousands upon thousands of perfectly healthy animals on a yearly basis, then maybe people would be a little more open minded to what you have to say.

Humans are omnivores. Try to get at least one fact right please.

Clearly not educational enough.

Propaganda by defintion:
ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect


Not propaganda? >.>

I'm not trying to be a *** here. You can be a vegetarian or vegan, I don't care, that's your prerogative.

When you get to start telling people how to live because you disagree with their choice of a lifestyle, that's when you cross the line to me. You don't have any right to force feed propaganda to anyone just because you find meat disgusting.

Also, humans aren't carnivores, they're omnivores.

Resent research has shown that plants 'react' to being abused, cut, trimmed, pulled etc. How do like not taking into consideration that plant's feelings when it was produced solely for the purpose of your consumption?

You beat me to the punch. But I was going to note that virtually all living things that have a central nervous system of sorts, including plants react to various conditions and treatment that isn't centralized or exclusive to humans or animals. If you want to talk about being fair to all animals, start by being fair to all living things. But after all, we're human. We get to pick and choose our morals, but the key is not to alienate others for thinking or living differently.

Thats the only contribution I can make.

What are you attempting to convey by "smart life choice"? That it is healthier for you? Wrong. Without meat replacements of some sort, you are deficient in a number of healthy proteins that promote muscle development and high levels of metabolism.

By saving the environment? Wrong again. Without people being meat eaters, there would be a vast over population of animals such as deer, elk, buffalo, etc. This would starve out vegetation and create a huge and infinitely irreversible problem with our ecosystem.

Am I ignoring the over hunting, and bad conditions of feed lots, fish farms, etc? Yes, but that is necessary only because of the immense human population. Conservation should be preached, not elimination of all meat as a food source.

Humans are omnivorus by nature. This fact cannot be argued and this clearly shows the amount of "education" you've been given on the topic.

I won't force my opinion on your beliefs as you are perfectly entitled to them - however consider the fact that while we can be completely and utterly compassionate to every animal by choice, animals, especially carnivorus ones, aren't going to afford us the same luxury.

You get stuck in a cage with a hungry tiger, and that tiger isn't going to be respecting your rights, buddy. It's the natural order.

Did anybody actually watch the video under the flash game? I did this morning and can't get it out of my head. Probably don't want to watch it if you don't have a strong stomach.

When that dog blinked after having it's skin ripped off it's face... making me sick just thinking of it.

So, how many kids did you say you have? Did you even LOOK at those comics? I was being nice in my original post, if someone showed up at my 6yrs old school and showed that to her, they'd be dealing with my lawyer. It would literally take every bit of restraint in me not to punch their teeth out.

First off, the fact that children are easily influenced is exactly why propaganda shouldn't be thrown at them. People should believe things based off their own experiences and values, not by what they were frightened to death by or told as a as child. What good is a belief when you only believe it because you were bullied/scared into it? (This is the same view I take on religion but that's a whole nother can of worms).

Not to mention it's not up to anyone but myself what my child should or should not see, and what to tell them in regards to extremely sensitive subjects. If anyone EVER broached a subject like that with my children without my consent, there'd be hell to pay.

There are much better ways to teach children (or adults for that matter) without needlessly scaring the crap out of them. For one, doing actual research, finding facts and evidence to support your claims, into several different companies/factories/farms (whatever you wanna call them). Keep it simple and accusation free. "Company a, b, and c have be known to have bad business practices involving the treatment of their animals" (and attatch your proof) "However, Company d, e, and f act more reputably." (again, attatch your proof). "A simple change in what you buy in the grocery store or what fast food chain you pick up dinner from would help a lot".

I've literally lost count of all the viral videos and facebook groups I've seen circulating of animal mistreatment. Generally the response is "OMG THAT'S SO TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!" - people feel bad when they see it, but most people are stuck with the way of thinking "I'm just one person, what I do doesn't matter" and go back to living life the same way they always do. Giving people a more concrete thing to support, even as something as simple as "hey this egg company keeps all their chickens in tiny cages, but this one lets them roam free" will help people make more conscious choices in what they buy, if they feel so inclined to try to make a difference (compared to telling them "most companies keep their chickens in tiny little cages and their lives are miserable, don't buy eggs") IE: facts will do more good than scare tactics ever will.

Just on a side note, and definitely not to derail; but those people that are scared into a religion as a child are almost always the one's that never actually follow said religion as an adult. They have a bitter taste of it and abandon it, or they follow a bastardized version of it that they were force fed when they were young, taking no new information and sculpting an evolving view of life from it.

This could be said in the same way here. Saying something is 'bad' because your 1st grade teacher showed you horrific pics of it, or read you a bad story doesn't mean you know why it's bad or that you even think it is. It just means you're scared enough not to touch the subject any more.

This is the internet, get out of here with logic.

It's terrible yeah, but how the *** does a video game advocate this.?

Edit: This is how I honestly view PETA in some aspects lol



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Question...When is 2:67?

2:57 My bad, got anything else to debate or contribute? Or just contradicting obvious typos :(

Not sure how you got the idea that I was agreeing with PETA that mario advocates animal violence.