Rudra's Help On DNC

I got 30 coins of birth now, but after reading and thinking your statement again and again. Isn't Daka +2 just good enough if I just use my DNC soloing mostly?

It seems self-darkness with CF'd Rudra ending require a lot of setting-up time that the overhead will probably cost you the same amount of damage you could do if you just spam DE/Evis via steps and RF.

And for a single CF'd rudra, in abyssea, the damage is too high that the mob is probably dead on next hit anyway, making the only 10-12 secs of 30secs aftermath effective on next monster. (Got this so many times when using Almace).

Add: Now after I wrote that it seems Rudra weapons becoming more like a situational weapon rather than the ultimate weapon just like the other Empyrean/WoE weapons.

Yeah, I'd say that's a fair appraisal. I'm not sure what a Daka +2 is worth in the long run. It might be good for some fights, but the utility (and DPS) of elemental magians is hard to give up. If you're not going to make it a Daka +3 (Devious Die prices are climbing on Lakshmi), then I'd probably use a Kila +3 for almost everything. STR Kila +3 has a lot better DPS than a Daka +2, especially outside Abyssea where fSTR matters.

This is somewhat off-topic, but I would just like to chime in and say that Boost-STR is my favorite spell of all time.

That and Horde Lullaby II are the only two new spells I've considered buying. I think I'd really like the damage boost from Boost-STR in Dynamis, to the point that I can almost justify the 700k price tag. My mule's Enhancing magic is almost capped, too.

I use this on DNC for Rudra's, Fusetto+3 is TP Bonus+100 and its offhanded.



Need +2 Bangles, any other suggestions?

Atheling Mantle and 25 TP Bonus Moonshade earring.

try and get a Augemented ring(+6 Dex +6 Attack) from Abyss-Attow. It'll be a marginal diff on dmg. but still an improvement.

Sadly dnc doesnt have access to heca gear so the dmg rating will still suck compared to THF. so always eat Red Curry Buns or Roasted/Broiled Pipira.

EDIT: Atheling vs Nifty. Not a huge diff. since the ws sucks if not crit'd the extra attack round athleing would make is not even noticable.

question about dual wield here.

When weaponskilling with dual wield there is an extra attack included right? does it function just like a double attack, with a ftp of 1.0

sooooooo like

Main hit of rudras + dual wield extra hit 1.0?

sorry for the EXTREMELY noob question but i cant seem to find a reliable answer on wiki :/

main hit + 1.0 ftp possible double/triple attack + 1.0 ftp dual wield hit + 1.0 ftp possible double/triple attack

i dont mean to suck up or anything but you, byrth ninian and asymptotic always are a joy to read

thank you

^^ ty, sorry i've been away for the most part, im having problems with finances and jobs in the area that im in suck, i think iirc that unemployment rate in my area is 17%

You levelled DNC. Strip.

whatever to pay the bills

you are the 17%?
with your mind thats hard to imagine :x but situational ***is situational right? XD ive learned that much atleast, cant help what your born into! can only help how you grow outta it

hello my friend just got this dagger today just wonted the gear to be right for it, looking for a little advice on this if you could please, she not really a fan of triles as i have to do most on them, but could prolly work on her to do them heres the gear set she has atm any help would be great thanks



also have af3+2 head & Aias Bonnet

I just recently asked for this in "The Last Dance" thread! Here's a link to the post

Byrth's R.Sorm set

necro bump again~

ive actually noticed it for awhile just never bothered doing anything or asking about it BUT..sometimes, and honestly more like 1/4 of the time i rudras using climactic+nfr+rf etc etc all that darkness sc jazz..rudras does ~250dmg. is it not entirely missing but its sortve missing? its really frustrating when you break a good rudras then close with a 250 one so your darkness is only 250.

anyone seen this ?

id like to think my acc is capped, and to note that this ~250 damage is universal for any family of mob be is pdt crabs or weak colibri etc.

5% of the time your first hit misses.

5% of the time, any hit misses even at capped accuracy.

Confirmation bias, etc.

thats annoying but thanks for the info/opinion. i must be really unlucky then, no surprise there (voidwatch)

Still should be acc capped on your first hit.

Not to revive a dead thread, but I have a suggestion for those wanting a solid forced crit Rudra's without fear of CF wearing:

Presto - Feather Step = 3 Finishers.

Allow Step to reset

Now for the fun:

Feather Step - Climactic Flourish - Rudra's - No Foot Rise - Reverse Flourish - Rudra's = Both Rudra's are forced to crit and you get Darkness.

Since I use Charis Bangles +2 for weapon skills I have them on prior to even hitting my first weapon skill. I don't yet have Rudra's, but the same thing applies to Pyrrhic Kleos - Evisceration.

Yes it's faster to use a Presto - Step - Cf - Rudra's, but why limit your abilities to being in a smaller window. You can only use No foot rise every 3 minutes, might want to make it count the first time and not muck about.

The rest of the time I don't worry about CF mainly because I use it first thing, but also because forced crit or not you're getting bonus damage from the Darkness Skillchain.

If you aren't a slowpoke you can force crit both rudras off of a 3 FM-based CF. You should get into the habit of doing it this way for when you have NFR/Wings in VW instead of waiting 15 seconds to get the extra FM since that is a lot of idle time in there.

Then again if NFR and wings are both available you cant get in 3 off a 5FM start, but that also requires good reaction time/item usage.

Isn't this like really really old news?

About 122 days old I'd wager.

Feather Step - Climactic Flourish - Rudra's - No Foot Rise - Reverse Flourish - Rudra's = Both Rudra's are forced to crit and you get Darkness.

or you can open rudras close with evis makes more dmg for me usually and still make darkness

No real reason to use feather over box, since rudra's is a force crit.

/pendantry

And if attack is capped, no real reason to box step.

I could get use to it for VW, but for those like me who only use DNC to solo due to being on either PLD, DRK, or WAR for VW I figured I'd give my 2 cents and see the fall out.

Some forget that you may not always have temps, meds, etc at your disposal, especially when soloing, thus my CPR on this thread.

Also, any Step is going to help, but if the target's crit evasion is lowered and you're forcing a crit you'll be doing that mich more damage, or so I've noticed as I've tried various options as I'm sure any of you have. Each to their own imo, but then again, like I said, I don't yet have Rudra's so I can't make that informed opinion as to damage, just the mechanics of solo skillchaining was all I was refering to.

uh

what is more likely

DNC capping attack, or DNC having a 100% chance to crit WHILE USING AN ABILITY THAT GIVES IT 100% CHANCE TO CRIT