Thread Locking And Deleting Epidemic

There's other (older) examples. I'll pore through old forum posts and PM them to you later.

Please don't assume Flion uses me

I say what I want about who I want

Just wanted to clarify this

Why did this suddenly turned into a personal matter?

My thoughts exactly. Let's not turn this thread into the complete opposite of what it is trying to achieve. If you want to argue more Flion you can pm me. But we both know you won't do that.

Might sound silly, but it's puzzling me now:
Would it remain ironic for a thread about topics/threads being deleted and locked to be locked or deleted, if it were the unanimous outlook that in all probability it will end up locked or deleted?

This is of course using ironic by definition of the contrast between what is and what appears or is expected to be.

Dude that question is wayyy too long after a long day at college lol :p

Wait, this wasn't a fake arguement with a hidden agenda to "rage against the machine"?

RAGE ftw

Now I miss RATM :/
Off to work. Buy folks~

how much do they cost?

Honestly though, like I said I'm not a saint here, but I don't enjoy being a *** when I act like one, I certainly don't do it 'for the lols'. Saying that, I get on well with nearly everyone on the site o.o

There are users though who openly admit to fanning the flames of a thread and provoking volatile users for their own amusement. The same names appear doing it in every thread that gets locked down. Would it not be a sensible idea to review the people who do this with pride?

jesus

Er... on the topic of thread locking/deleting, I think it would be a very hard judgement call for a mod to make. What's going too far and what isn't is a huge gray fuzzy line, not some hard defined thing. I think it would be an easier judgement call for mods to make if there were more clearly defined reasons why a thread might be nuked. I think issuing topic bans and deleting offending posts would be a better solution than nuking whole threads. But what we also have to remember is that this isn't a paid job for the mods. They can't be expected to spend hours of their time moderating when they have other things going on in their lives that need attention as well.

Since Krizz is the one most people are mad at, let's look at him for example. Krizz is a single father with a young child or two and a job. If his daughter is crying for her breakfast and he's on his way out the door for work and he sees a thread that he has to make a judgement call on, which would be easier? To go through the thread and pick out offending posts/users or to nuke the whole thing and give attention to what needs attention in his life?

Now don't get me wrong, there have definitely been times when I thought a thread was nuked prematurely and definitely times when I have gotten angry because I thought someone was topic banned unfairly. There have even been times when I have been annoyed enough at moderation that I've clicked the little red X at the top right of my screen and gone to do something else. But I think looking at things from the other side's perspective might garner a bit more understanding.

I know it's been mentioned before that Scragg and Jaerik were looking into adding a couple more mods. I think if/when that happens it will help because instead of all the responsibility of modding falling onto just a few shoulders, the work would be dispersed thinner for all of them.

how dare you use the lord's name in vain

This would be a situation where topic bans should be enforced Imo.

It's not like everyone in the thread is going downhill, just a couple.

@Liela: Now, I don't want to sound insensitive, and I'm not referring to anyone in particular: but I don't care about a mod's private life. If he/she choses to be one, he has to go through all the work that comes with it.

Mod is an optional job. They get absolutely nothing for it. I feel posters like you should me more considerate about all they go through and far less selfish.

I think you both make very good points :3

I never actually thought of it the way Liela has described, I think we often forget that being a mod is not a full time paying job lol. But yeh what Seha said cannot be ignored either, there surely has to be some level of commitment to maintain equality amongst discipline so idk \o.o/

You don't sound insensitive, and you have a good point. It's something that people should be considering before becoming mods. I just think modding is probably harder than most normal users think it is.

is there any kinda option to auto delete/topic ban all the post and qoates for a specific poster? Like be able just hit one button and it will automatically do all the work of removing all the post from the offending person and stopping them from posting more in a thread? Really has gotten out of hand all the lock threads topic bans and threads locked cus they have similar topic but might not be same kinda discussion going on in them or there's a 3 year old thread barried somewhere that has same topic. I don't know if there is even any kinda guide for the mods as to what to ban delete and lock or not? Just something to define what they should be doing over all and not just doing things based on personal opinion/mood.

@both Liela and Seha

I know mods have personal lives and real life responsibilities should always be put first in my opinion. That still doesn't excuse them from being lazy with the responsibility they took on here. Yes, what if they do see a thread where a little tough love is needed? Give it a little tough love or get another mod to look at it while his/her hands are full. Everyone has a way of contacting each other on here, mods/admins included. Why can't Krizz send Anye a PM when he has to deal with his daughter and work? Why can't Anye send one to Alyria when she's in the middle of classes? Etc, etc. I see these premature nukes as being lazy and half-assing the responsibility.

I fully agree with this:

Like Urial said, they're doing this by their own good graces. :) They're not here to baby-sit a group of adults that can't show self-restraint.

The very reason that it's a voluntary job means that if you do it you have to take responsibility for it. No one says they can't have their own problems and could be busy the whole day, but if they are, they should step aside and leave it to someone else. Just that: take responsibility for your commitment.

Have you ever had a job a full time job or done anything other than being a full time student? If not don't comment about commitments.

I think Alymorel has a great idea. Let the mods help each other out more if they need more help. It might not get stuff done as instantly, but it would still get stuff done and be less of a burden on all of them.

Hey! I'm a student now! I'll have you know my 3 days of lessons a week are on par with the work of a full time soldier!

LOLnah :p

But I am a student so I'ma stick my tongue out at ya :P

lol.
I just think that if you've never lived outside the shadow of mommy and daddy you shouldn't try to tell someone who is out supporting themselves how to prioritize commitments. Yeah it's easy to post all day and play games all day when you pay no bills and don't work lol.

You didn't even read carefully Urial and just make fun of me, I guess it's worthless to talk to you at all.

No I read. I'm just saying that you have no room to comment on the situation.

The admins are way too busy to know the specifics about every mod action. It's not unusual for them to not know the specifics about a thread lock or topicban. Unless it results in a user receiving a warning, it gets minimal attention from an admin.

Users have constantly been told to PM a mod when they have an issue, and to only escalate to an admin if absolutely necessary.