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 Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-09-14 12:43:04
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Totally skirted the issue. Fixing the catalyst for the thread does not fix the concern.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2011-09-14 12:45:36
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Totally skirted the issue. Fixing the catalyst for the thread does not fix the concern.

Don't assume that's the only thing I did.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-09-14 12:47:43
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Might sound dumb but how about a special spoiler for pics with profanity that require you to be logged in to view?
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2011-09-14 12:51:10
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Might sound dumb but how about a special spoiler for pics with profanity that require you to be logged in to view?

This thread is about thread deletions/locks.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-09-14 12:52:35
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Edit: nevermind
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By Odin.Daemun 2011-09-14 13:00:12
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Fenrir.Scragg said: »
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Might sound dumb but how about a special spoiler for pics with profanity that require you to be logged in to view?

This thread is about thread deletions/locks.
Well it was an indirect but relevant idea that would fix the root of the problem that caused this thread...

Again, it puts the responsibility in the hands of the user, and we've all seen (every time) how that turns out.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-09-14 13:02:43
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Ramuh.Krizz said: »
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regarding Image bypassing filter, why not make it that, people need to be logged in, to be able to click and expand the [ spoiler ] tags ?
Jaerik has already answered this in the past. Too much of the site's traffic is from people without accounts and/or not signed in.

Okay... So they can just log in if they want to look at the img. And if it's something "adult"-ish (foul language for example), you should have something under the Account menu where users have to click "few these types of images" or "view images in spoiler tags". Like I said, if they want to see some humorous image or something along those lines, they can just log in... If they're somewhere where they can't log in currently, then they could just wait for a time of when they can.
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By Odin.Daemun 2011-09-14 13:05:10
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Bahamut.Mizuharu said: »
Ramuh.Krizz said: »
Bismarck.Misao said: »
regarding Image bypassing filter, why not make it that, people need to be logged in, to be able to click and expand the [ spoiler ] tags ?
Jaerik has already answered this in the past. Too much of the site's traffic is from people without accounts and/or not signed in.

Okay... So they can just log in if they want to look at the img. And if it's something "adult"-ish (foul language for example), you should have something under the Account menu where users have to click "few these types of images" or "view images in spoiler tags". Like I said, if they want to see some humorous image or something along those lines, they can just log in... If they're somewhere where they can't log in currently, then they could just wait for a time of when they can.
If I recall it was something along the lines of 80-90% of the sites traffic. He's not going to make the (vast) majority conform to fit the fancies of the (vast) minority.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-09-14 13:17:40
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Odin.Daemun said: »
Fenrir.Scragg said: »
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Might sound dumb but how about a special spoiler for pics with profanity that require you to be logged in to view?

This thread is about thread deletions/locks.
Well it was an indirect but relevant idea that would fix the root of the problem that caused this thread...

Again, it puts the responsibility in the hands of the user, and we've all seen (every time) how that turns out.
No, it's not. The thread lock that spawned this thread had nothing to do with the profanity filter.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-09-14 13:39:27
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I agree with Krizz and Scragg here on the stuff said on Page 2.

I don't know enough about the profanity filter and how images bypass it and all that to offer any worthwhile opinion on the subject.

The intent of the OP, and (hopefully) the ongoing discussion, is to raise awareness about the frequency of "hot" threads being deleted or locked, and the subsequent frustration of Users (or at least this User) when replies (and the time spent on writing the reply) get "lost" if a thread is locked or deleted while the author is writing his/her reply.
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By Fenrir.Savoree 2011-09-14 13:43:53
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The creators of this site will to do whatever they feel is necessary to keep their sponsers happy.
I dont blame them one bit for making extra careful on anything posted here.
This site is far more important to them than it is to the users.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2011-09-14 13:58:56
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The same kind of arguments asking for clarification on whats allowable and whats not are all over the Adsense forums. Google can't clarify because it's the advertisers that decide what they want or do not want. To go a step further the advertisers are at the mercy of their customers.

It's really easy to not censor pics or language. It is something I'd rather not do. Nevertheless, I don't want to put our primary funding in jeopardy because some users need to have profanity in images.

Google Adsense - Content Guidelines:

Quote:
Sites with Google ads may not include or link to:

Pornography, adult or mature content
Violent content
Content related to racial intolerance or advocacy against any individual, group or organisation
Excessive profanity
Hacking/cracking content
Gambling or casino-related content
Illicit drugs and drug paraphernalia content
Sales of beer or hard alcohol
Sales of tobacco or tobacco-related products
Sales of prescription drugs
Sales of weapons or ammunition (e.g. firearms, firearm components, fighting knives, stun guns)
Sales of products that are replicas or imitations of designer or other goods
Sales or distribution of coursework or student essays
Content regarding programs which compensate users for clicking ads or offers, performing searches, surfing websites or reading emails
Any other content that is illegal, promotes illegal activity or infringes on the legal rights of others

Some of that might look familiar

Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/support/as/bin/answer.py?answer=48182
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:03:38
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Deal with the firestarters, not the flames. Might be an idea to take down a notch those who think it's amusing to fan those flames too, they are as much to blame for a derailed thread as the original offender. You know who they are because (for reasons I'll never understand) they take pride in admitting to it.
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-09-14 14:06:12
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Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Deal with the firestarters, not the flames. Might be an idea to take down a notch those who think it's amusing to fan those flames too, they are as much to blame for a derailed thread as the original offender. You know who they are because (for reasons I'll never understand) they take pride in admitting to it.

You do it too.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:08:49
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Deal with the firestarters, not the flames. Might be an idea to take down a notch those who think it's amusing to fan those flames too, they are as much to blame for a derailed thread as the original offender. You know who they are because (for reasons I'll never understand) they take pride in admitting to it.

You do it too.

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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-09-14 14:09:07
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Lock this theard!

IMO do w/e it takes to keep sponsers. Maybe b/c i don't post as often as other peeps, but i haven't notice this "epidemic".
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-09-14 14:09:25
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Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Deal with the firestarters, not the flames. Might be an idea to take down a notch those who think it's amusing to fan those flames too, they are as much to blame for a derailed thread as the original offender. You know who they are because (for reasons I'll never understand) they take pride in admitting to it.

You do it too.


Thanks for proving my point.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:12:32
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Deal with the firestarters, not the flames. Might be an idea to take down a notch those who think it's amusing to fan those flames too, they are as much to blame for a derailed thread as the original offender. You know who they are because (for reasons I'll never understand) they take pride in admitting to it.

You do it too.


Thanks for proving my point.

You are the #1 example of what I was talking about and you pretty much held your hand up by replying with that tone. I may aswell have dangled a piece of bait above your head. I'm not a saint by any means around the forums but I am not who you need to worry about.
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-09-14 14:15:07
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You start arguments all the time. You fan flames by jumping into arguments that don't involve you and you do pretty much everything you try to speak out against.

You're just blind to the fact lol.

If what you hoped for in your post came true, you'd be 'dealt with'.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2011-09-14 14:16:09
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sagi you're kissing *** like neon now

in a different way but its still kissing ***
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:18:12
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
You start arguments all the time. You fan flames by jumping into arguments that don't involve you and you do pretty much everything you try to speak out against.

You're just blind to the fact lol.

If what you hoped for in your post came true, you'd be 'dealt with'.

Ok so it goes like this.

1. Sagi comes into thread and states opinion.
2. Flion comes into thread and accuses Sagi.

You're right that's totally me starting an argument, I'm just waiting for your little followers to appear to back you up.

Concerning the bold, I am actually amazed you have the audacity to accuse anyone else of doing that when you make your own entertainment from doing just that.
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By Artemicion 2011-09-14 14:19:56
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You two seem confused.
It was a legitimate approach to a common problem in the forums.
I find it amusing Flion actually jumped in to assume the position and made a retort conducive to an elementary school student.
Also I fail to see how his suggestion remotely resembled schmoozing or brown-nosing. In what reference was it pertaining to mods or admins?
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:20:09
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
sagi you're kissing *** like neon now

in a different way but its still kissing ***

How so :/ ? I jus wanted to say my piece and I get attacked by Flion (again).
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-09-14 14:21:18
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Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
You start arguments all the time. You fan flames by jumping into arguments that don't involve you and you do pretty much everything you try to speak out against.

You're just blind to the fact lol.

If what you hoped for in your post came true, you'd be 'dealt with'.

Ok so it goes like this.

1. Sagi comes into thread and states opinion.
2. Flion comes into thread and accuses Sagi.

You're right that's totally me starting an argument.

Concerning the bold, I am actually amazed you have the audacity to accuse anyone else of doing that when you make your own entertainment from doing just that.

I would never claim that I don't do that. You are still completely blind to the fact that you jump into arguments not involving you and try and start ***with people, then the next day turn around and say how much it disgusts you. I can link examples if I looked hard enough, but it's fresh enough in everyone's mind to not be a worthwhile venture.

There were several weeks when I'd be discussing things with people and you'd just jump in and personally attack me for no reason at all. Are you completely oblivious to what you do or something?
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2011-09-14 14:21:35
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Artemicion said: »
You two seem confused.
It was a legitimate approach to a common problem in the forums.
I find it amusing Flion actually jumped in to assume the position and made a retort conducive to an elementary school student.
Also I fail to see how his suggestion remotely resembled schmoozing or brown-nosing. In what reference was it pertaining to mods or admins?

i see it as *** kissing because it's pretty much like "Look at me im not doing anything wrong its all them they mean bad for the forum kill them im innocent QQ"

thats why i see it as *** kissing

i just see it that way
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By Artemicion 2011-09-14 14:24:39
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Artemicion said: »
You two seem confused.
It was a legitimate approach to a common problem in the forums.
I find it amusing Flion actually jumped in to assume the position and made a retort conducive to an elementary school student.
Also I fail to see how his suggestion remotely resembled schmoozing or brown-nosing. In what reference was it pertaining to mods or admins?

i see it as *** kissing because it's pretty much like "Look at me im not doing anything wrong its all them they mean bad for the forum kill them im innocent QQ"

thats why i see it as *** kissing

i just see it that way

I can understand your approach, but to immediately see it in that light and under those presumptions or tone, is more or less jumping to conclusions.
Nobody is advocating themselves as being absolutely pure of fault when they post, but his suggestion was of sound logic nevertheless. It applies to everyone; rather than suggesting that they themselves were exempt.

Also the neck lady pic was rather contrary to his argument, so bleh... Everyone seems to fail at practicing what they preach :(
I'm no different, and I can admit that because I do stuff all the time without even being fully aware of it. It's not easy keeping an outside perspective other than your own when you go to post to something controversial or otherwise.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-09-14 14:24:50
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All 3 of you are no better than the other. Get over it. (excluded Arte's post)
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-09-14 14:25:57
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Everyone that frequents these forums knows that I'm not a big fan of Elanabelle's. But it doesn't extend to anything beyond a difference of opinion on builds and play style. However, I'd like to take the opportunity to APPLAUDE Elanabelle for starting this much needed topic!!
These forums are subject to NO specific parameters other than the Mod's individual ego's. There've been several occasions, specifically with Krizz, deleting posts that had no pervasive language or derogatory content whatsoever. I know, I'm the victim of some of them.
Mod's themselves aren't subject to their own rules either, referring to posters as "a ***" (you know who you are). I personally expect to be banned, and/or this post be removed. Which is fine, as I have never been too fond of a socialism regime anyways.
I enjoy reading some of the threads, people's opinions and following threads regarding upcoming content. When those threads are interrupted because it interfere's with a particular mod's ego or opinion, it's just fk'd and wrong. And we're seeing it way too much.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-09-14 14:26:44
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »
You start arguments all the time. You fan flames by jumping into arguments that don't involve you and you do pretty much everything you try to speak out against.

You're just blind to the fact lol.

If what you hoped for in your post came true, you'd be 'dealt with'.

Ok so it goes like this.

1. Sagi comes into thread and states opinion.
2. Flion comes into thread and accuses Sagi.

You're right that's totally me starting an argument.

Concerning the bold, I am actually amazed you have the audacity to accuse anyone else of doing that when you make your own entertainment from doing just that.

I would never claim that I don't do that. You are still completely blind to the fact that you jump into arguments not involving you and try and start ***with people, then the next day turn around and say how much it disgusts you. I can link examples if I looked hard enough, but it's fresh enough in everyone's mind to not be a worthwhile venture.

There were several weeks when I'd be discussing things with people and you'd just jump in and personally attack me for no reason at all. Are you completely oblivious to what you do or something?

Are you referring to the discussion regarding Ironguy being banned? So I'm not allowed an opinion without your approval?

You're right I used a bad word against you, but it can be quite annoying when you don't fight your own corner Flion. You use your little 3 man clique to enforce your presence and effectively stifle other forum members who you don't like.
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By Artemicion 2011-09-14 14:27:17
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Well hopefully this plays over well rather than ending in the ironic yet somewhat expected result (would that still make it ironic?)

Got work. See you all later.
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