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Update: PW / Mythic Weapon Items Drop Rate
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-08-22 17:08:24
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »
znm sucks, but the likeliness increase of my ten dragon pants being augmentable brings me great pleasure
Hachiryu means eight dragon.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 17:34:19
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i stand corrected then, and now regret taking that one dude's advice two years back or so that said it was ten

either way, you'd have to agree that there's still a lot of dragons to have in your pants at one time
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By Bismarck.Tagus 2011-08-22 17:48:04
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »
your face is arbitrary

but anyways, sarameya was hardly a fight to be scared of (rather fight him than dark ixion for example, even though he was a joke too after you got down the pattern for sam/nin solo tanking him), i'll admit, but it was just funny initially when the union started cranking out no-pld kills of that thing only one or two months after vnm was released, and everyone thought that it had a luck factor to it or something completely irrelevant

trying to convince my shell back then, holy hell my head hurts just merely reminiscing about it
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(rather fight him than dark ixion for example, even though he was a joke too after you got down the pattern for sam/nin solo tanking him)
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SAM/NIN


Yessssssssssssssss

You finally admit Sam/Nin had a purpose, five years later. Don't think I forgot that ***!
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-22 17:49:14
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lol...
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-08-22 17:53:17
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THANK YOU SE!

That made my day...Now I think I'll just get my ZNM trophies out of the way for mythic XD

Now please increase alexandrite drop rates and make einherjar no minimum person entry and either everyday accessible or at least no lamp gil cost :<
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 17:58:45
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Bismarck.Tagus said: »
You finally admit Sam/Nin had a purpose, five years later. Don't think I forgot that ***!

at first i used to facetank dark ixion /war (and then soon after /drg briefly) about a year after it came out and realizing it was possible, but then here i was getting blasted in the face with bind/gravity repeatedly, forcing me to eat x10 more damage than required by not being able to range his tp moves

then one day, my buddy came along sam/nin (even though his main justification for /nin there was secretly being a tarutaru, as much as he's honestly one of the absolute best players i've seen play the game), and shortly after, i swapped it up finally because being an mp sponge is silly

there was certainly a time where i was too blindly adamant on simply not using the sub for the fact that it was viewed as a sin back a while ago (and rest assured i wish my opinion would've been swayed earlier), but back then, there was literally no way around /nin for dark ixion and tiamat tanking in particular, with a side of sandworm serket and lambton worn
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By Bismarck.Tagus 2011-08-22 18:10:37
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Oh glorious day! Thank you, sir Ironguy. I can rest easy now, knowing that the hatchet is buried. And let this be a lesson to the rest of you... nuts. Never forget:

“Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-22 18:12:21
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Very nice change, I have a trig I was gonna use too but thankfully I didn't use it yet to risk not getting drop for my mythic.
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By Ramuh.Lucried 2011-08-22 18:19:52
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heh about time they make trig 100% drop should have been that way right from the get go. now if only they would do something about that 10 pics a day bs.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2011-08-22 18:20:09
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Very nice change, I have a trig I was gonna use too but thankfully I didn't use it yet to risk not getting drop for my mythic.

Tizona...? :D
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 18:23:53
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Better be Ryunohige.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2011-08-22 18:31:33
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Interesting thread altogether, definitely think there's an alterior motive to 100%'ing those particular drops. I dread to think what.

Mostly wanted to post just to note that I thought the positioning of the computer cat and the unsure if serious joker pics was just sheer brilliance.
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By Sylph.Venlo 2011-08-22 18:33:00
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »

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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-22 18:39:43
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Ramuh.Kailana said: »
Interesting thread altogether, definitely think there's an alterior motive to 100%'ing those particular drops. I dread to think what.

Mostly wanted to post just to note that I thought the positioning of the computer cat and the unsure if serious joker pics was just sheer brilliance.
Yea, it's most likely because that is the next stage for mythics like users have predicted.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2011-08-22 18:51:15
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Say word? Thanks SE, just need dat Tyger 100% drop, 27 assaults and 17k more Alex!

Make Alexandrite rain from the sky now, thx.
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
THANK YOU SE!

That made my day...Now I think I'll just get my ZNM trophies out of the way for mythic XD

Now please increase alexandrite drop rates and make einherjar no minimum person entry and either everyday accessible or at least no lamp gil cost :<


I still think Ein/Nyzul/Assault should have a cool down time, and should take certain amount of time to get those all done.

This game already has empy weapons which takes weeks to complete and can be duoed, if they make Mythic duoable in short time as well then we're just gonna see more mythicwagon being completed in 1 month, lowering it's value.

The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

But really, Ein/Nyzul/assault difficulty is just fine as it is.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-22 19:15:58
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Very nice change, I have a trig I was gonna use too but thankfully I didn't use it yet to risk not getting drop for my mythic.

Tizona...? :D

Yup Tizona
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-22 19:17:44
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Very nice change, I have a trig I was gonna use too but thankfully I didn't use it yet to risk not getting drop for my mythic.

Tizona...? :D

Yup Tizona

How -does- a 90 tizona fare these days?
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-08-22 19:30:16
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
THANK YOU SE!

That made my day...Now I think I'll just get my ZNM trophies out of the way for mythic XD

Now please increase alexandrite drop rates and make einherjar no minimum person entry and either everyday accessible or at least no lamp gil cost :<


I still think Ein/Nyzul/Assault should have a cool down time, and should take certain amount of time to get those all done.

This game already has empy weapons which takes weeks to complete and can be duoed, if they make Mythic duoable in short time as well then we're just gonna see more mythicwagon being completed in 1 month, lowering it's value.

The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

But really, Ein/Nyzul/assault difficulty is just fine as it is.

Did you even read what this thread is about or what my post was even about?

You do realize this post is announcing 100% drop from ZNMs. And I said nothing about nyzul/assault, just einherjar. Einherjar is a big ***-block. Doing all nyzul/assault/einherjar takes a minimum of 5 months. 5 months for a mythic isn't *too* bad but in this day and age in the game, it is a fair amount of time for a usually subpar weapon or very minimum enhancing one.
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By Bahamut.Kyawind 2011-08-22 19:48:04
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i think einharjar is the only cockblock outa them all realy...
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By Quiznor 2011-08-23 08:31:49
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Bahamut.Kyawind said: »
i think einharjar is the only cockblock outa them all realy...

Now a days sure,back in the day when it was a big endgame event,not so much.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-23 08:36:55
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I started with about half the NI tokens I needed about a month ago, Captain, Titles (sans beastkings), and almost nothing else. Now:
3 Beastking wins
23000 Alexandrite
On schedule to be done Assaults in about 2-3 months (65k tokens and 40 assaults remaining).
Tinnin's Fang get, have a Sara and Tyger pop and half way to another two Tyger pops (plenty of Zeni).
...and Einherjar is going to take me until February.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-23 11:37:50
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Quiznor said: »
Bahamut.Kyawind said: »
i think einharjar is the only cockblock outa them all realy...

Now a days sure,back in the day when it was a big endgame event,not so much.
Yea, I almost have enough just from doing einherjar with my linkshell. I can see how stressful it would be starting from 0 though. Hopefully the einherjar overhaul comes out soon, probably around when the ZNM overhaul comes out.
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By Bismarck.Diki 2011-08-23 11:56:17
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

Just wanted to comment on this zeni/pic note. Naul in Abyssea - Tahrongi give 99-106 for every photo any time you turn them in. Not sure if that is common knowledge or not.

Additionally, BST can ∞ hold them with zero hate at 1% provided they let they pet tank it down and then heel the pet.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-23 12:05:25
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Bismarck.Diki said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

Just wanted to comment on this zeni/pic note. Naul in Abyssea - Tahrongi give 99-106 for every photo any time you turn them in. Not sure if that is common knowledge or not.

Additionally, BST can ∞ hold them with zero hate at 1% provided they let they pet tank it down and then heel the pet.
Still think they should increase the amount of pics you can turn in the same day, like increase it by 50% at least, because if they want us to try out their new ZNM system we are going to have to want to do it.

The restriction was needed back during release to preserve the content, but right now it's not.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-08-23 12:08:46
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
THANK YOU SE!

That made my day...Now I think I'll just get my ZNM trophies out of the way for mythic XD

Now please increase alexandrite drop rates and make einherjar no minimum person entry and either everyday accessible or at least no lamp gil cost :<


I still think Ein/Nyzul/Assault should have a cool down time, and should take certain amount of time to get those all done.

This game already has empy weapons which takes weeks to complete and can be duoed, if they make Mythic duoable in short time as well then we're just gonna see more mythicwagon being completed in 1 month, lowering it's value.

The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

But really, Ein/Nyzul/assault difficulty is just fine as it is.

Did you even read what this thread is about or what my post was even about?

You do realize this post is announcing 100% drop from ZNMs. And I said nothing about nyzul/assault, just einherjar. Einherjar is a big ***-block. Doing all nyzul/assault/einherjar takes a minimum of 5 months. 5 months for a mythic isn't *too* bad but in this day and age in the game, it is a fair amount of time for a usually subpar weapon or very minimum enhancing one.


Getting all ichor takes about 1 year, and some ppl used to spend way longer than that on relic. And you can still do other requirements while waiting for Einherjar cool down time, so you may get it done in 1 year, which isn't that bad for a weapon that's designed to take very long time to finish as well.
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By Carbuncle.Zeota 2011-08-23 12:36:57
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Get rid of the 3-person minimum in assaults. Fat chance I know.
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By Quiznor 2011-08-23 13:05:14
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Bismarck.Diki said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
The only thing that needs to be adjusted is alex drop rate and trophy drop rate(or at least increase the zeni earned per pic), I'd say 500 alex drop per run average is just right.

Just wanted to comment on this zeni/pic note. Naul in Abyssea - Tahrongi give 99-106 for every photo any time you turn them in. Not sure if that is common knowledge or not.

Additionally, BST can ∞ hold them with zero hate at 1% provided they let they pet tank it down and then heel the pet.

I think thats common knowledge now,or at least among people that still do ZNM anyways.Thats what I do,jump on PLD and just hold it at 1% until I've used all 60 plates
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-23 14:47:47
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Carbuncle.Zeota said: »
Get rid of the 3-person minimum in assaults. Fat chance I know.
Would love it if it could be changed to two people instead of three. I have no problem finding someone to do it with, but to find two people is just annoying and makes making a static much more complicated than it needs to be.

Of course I don't have/use mules like many people do and they wouldn't have any issues with the 3 person requirements.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-23 19:10:30
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Sadly, they specifically said they weren't removing the 3 person requirement, at least from Assaults. I'm not sure if they specifically mentioned Salvage in that post or not.
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