Old Players

So I have been reading what people want SE to do with jobs, and all I can say is wow. Do none of these new people know the basic mechanics of this game? I miss the old days where there was some structure to this game. When things were hard and you could not lvl every job, plus get the best gear for it in a matter of months. Seems the reason to solo now is not because you have the ability to, but to avoid being wiped because of people who have no idea what they are doing. Any one else feel the same way? Then again most who do probably quit lol.

Games changed. Some people like it better. Deal with it.

I know. All the players who didnt play ffxi or quit because it was hard now play. Quick million for SE. Not a bad call since 14 failed so bad.

Unfortunately you have to evolve and adapt with the game as it changes. It's the nature of MMOs and comes with the territory.
Content becomes dated, new content is made, more people play and thus you have a wider audience of expectations to meet; thus content is altered and adjusted.

This is similar to the fashion in how artists in the music industry go about changing their sound. If you can't take in what was given, learn, experience and feel from it, then it did no good in the first place. An artist can't continuously scream their head off in anger to appease the small niche that only demands one thing over and over again. You have to adapt and accept the change in atmosphere and mood and thus direction of music they take from that point on.

Anyways, what I'm saying is at least try and be an adaptive creature to a game that you still enjoy; if you do indeed still enjoy the game for what it is, rather than what it has become or once was. Otherwise, there's plenty of other MMOs out there that I am sure appeal to your interests.

all successful mmos have changed at one point or another. wow reinvents itself every 6 months

If one style was consistently successful, they'd make it a single player game.
Otherwise the point of something being online is to change and be more interesting as more people play.

Stop worrying about others and live ya life



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"Change" Is not bad. Restructuring is bad. Look at bst for example. Charm, Gauge, Tame, Sic, Leave, all obsolete. Instead, it solos HNMs with one two JA. Call beast, and reward. Its pretty bad when 1 job can solo a mob afk that can wipe an alliance.

and with how many people tri/quad box this game might as well be a single player game XD

Shame on all of you bashing the guy -.- ... maybe you're all just tired of things like this? Imo there isnt enough of it.

Support from an old player who woke up playing a completely different game.

Change 'can' be good, and from a business perspective im sure this new stuff brought in a bunch of money. That doesn't mean we can't prefer how things used to be while still enjoying the highlights of whats new. (and for the record, IMO thats all we have now is highlights... I feel like FFXI used to be an 'experience' thats all i'm going to say as from what I've seen on these forums you people really like to bash people who liked FFXI the way it was intended to be by its creators)

This.

There's nothing wrong with having nostalgia for the "old days"...it doesn't mean a person cannot adapt. It simply means they miss the way things were.

Deal with it.

I have full +2 on almost 12 jobs. I can assure I have adapted better than most lol. And I play generally only play after I get out of class, so its much more moderate than most.

I don't miss old XI at all. Needing to be in a ls with tons of other dipshits and forced to use DKP points to bid on gear against people who don't know how to play the game, all because you couldn't get in to a better ls because you didn't have the best gear (which required a good ls) and taking MONTHS to get a SINGLE piece of gear was absurd.

Not saying current XI doesn't need to be improved. It does. But seriously, old XI was awful.

There is no 'debate' here about whether old ffxi was good or not, you should have kept on moving. Just a note, if the main reasons you hated old ffxi were simply complaints about how much work was required to get something done then I feel sorry for you.

Everything Rancor has said has pertained to missing old XI.

Just a note, you're HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Time sinks isn't work. It's a *** time sink.

all abyssea is is a massive time sink lmao.

Although I also agree that spending months to get one piece of gear in a game is just wasting life and money, I also agree with the OP that this game nowadays doesn't require much strategy/team work and strategic use of different job's strength.

IMO getting gears from mini-expansion at lv 75 cap is perfect balance. It doesn't take very long to complete the expansion and get the gear reward, but the BC fight is challenging enough at lv 75 that it actually requires strategy and team work, and you have several ways to beat it depending on your setup. The gear reward is decent for some jobs. Everyone who participates gets the reward so no drama nor lol DKP system.

They just have to make more BC fights like this that gives gear to everyone that cleared, and the fight itself is challenging enough that you can't clear it with MNK+WHM curebomb.

Which is where Voidwatch is going. Also hopefully newer content and updates.

K, it's a MMO, mmkay?

Now, would you rather spend 2-4 months trying to get Byakko's Haidate, or would you rather spend 1-2 days that only require a few hours of work getting AF3+2 legs?

It's still a timesink (read: MMO), just one that doesn't devour all free time of your life for months.

As it stands now, abyssea is a place where you will never fail unless you try (seeing as you have the option to carry a brew) and voidwatch, being a neat idea, isnt worth doing because at the moment the gear is not worth the work. I see all of your point of views and I assure you none or wrong or right, as any forum is opinion based. And who is to say at lvl 99 it might not get better either? We'll see. Will be amusing to see how many people will quit if the game gets, how do you say challenging, err, I mean "hard".

Yeah because people arent allowed to miss things. Your opinion of how things should be doesnt even factor in. As for you're time sink comment.... "All good things come with time" - everyone knows you're just some punk with a bad attitude trying to ruin other peoples day, so please take it somewhere else as it won't phase real people.

Voidwatch has a few decent pieces. And have fun duoing any T3-4 VWNM.

Also, there are very, very, very many ls that fail at abyssea. They also make up a huge portion of the playerbase it seems.

Someone's mad.

Old FFXI was great for some and others hated it, new FFXI is the same deal.

I personally like the old FFXI more than the new. As time goes on SE will revive the older content and will give us the wide variety of events once again because of synergy, or some other way. I think they realized how much they broke their game with content like abyssea, but they should of been reviving the events AS they were releasing abyssea and not have waited this long. The smartest thing would have to keep some of the events up to date, but I guess lesson learned for them.

Sky is probably one of the biggest changes. Seriously, look at it. It was dead, so so dead. There was hardly ever anyone up there. Synergy brought it back to life to a degree, but compared to how it was before it is a huge leap.

Dynamis is probably the same, maybe a lil more now that people enjoy a system that requires less people and you can actually go in there to chill and have a lil fun.

They are going to extend WoE even more, so that will be fun.

They will be reviving salvage, hopefully for the better. Also hopefully bringing in more alex so prices aren't 10k each anymore... sure would like to have reasonable prices again.

They will be upgrading relic armor to +2 status with augments.

I don't see events like limbus or SCNM or ZNM getting revived though. I don't miss limbus or ZNM but SCNM was an interesting idea. They had their time I guess so it's not that bad.

Events like Sea are still useful, although not nearly as popular. There is still a need, to a point, for sea.

Leveling outside of abyssea has become better, but lets face it. They broke it. They won't change it back to what it was before because people would flip out. We got spoiled, and that is just how leveling will be from now on.

There are a few others, too tired to think of any right now. Anyways I loved the old FFXI but they are going to bring it back. It will just come slowly in small updates over time. It won't ever be like what old FFXI was, but it will use the same content again at least giving us more of a variety of things to do. Anyways I'm off to bed~

Not really. You honestly just complained about pretty much all video games. It was more fun working toward something than just going and getting. Working toward = game, going and getting = a trip to the store?

did you forget how much of a pain CoP was before the nerf? and thats even with good people, some of those fights were extreme bullcrap.

I had fun doing CoP. Made some good bonds with people. :) Miss that

I did everything in old XI, had all the best gear possible for my jobs. If you think spending 6 Months to a year getting gear is enjoyable then you are out of your *** mind.

I am happy with how things are now, and would never go back to the huge grind that was Old-XI.