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 Fenrir.Mtmoogle
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-08-15 13:37:48
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nin can also nuke and enfeeble; ;
rip dnc
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-15 13:42:28
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If I still cared about soloing I'd probably prefer DNC for fights with enough high-damage attacks that I couldn't just Migawari them all away, especially magic damage since DNC has better MDT options (Avalon Breastplate sup). NIN's got enfeebles and ***but DNC has better raw killspeed on low-tier stuff and better spike cures for some higher-tier NMs. Soloing is such a waste of time now though, unless you're just doing it for fun =\
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By Bismarck.Enzoe 2011-08-15 13:44:34
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I think dancer is pretty much set for now.
Evisceration>reverse flourish>pyrrhic kleos=darkness
For solo dancer rules.

One change could be dancer's getting some kind of tp benefit while in parties. I think it would be cool for the developers to offer a reason for people to want dancers in the party situation at events.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-15 13:44:59
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
If I still cared about soloing I'd probably prefer DNC for fights with enough high-damage attacks that I couldn't just Migawari them all away, especially magic damage since DNC has better MDT options (Avalon Breastplate sup). NIN's got enfeebles and ***but DNC has better raw killspeed on low-tier stuff and better spike cures for some higher-tier NMs. Soloing is such a waste of time now though, unless you're just doing it for fun =\
I payed a guy to level sync my mnk to 75 so I could solo Serket like the good ol' days :D
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-08-15 13:56:06
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Nin's enfeebles are what make it better than dnc at soloing...but yeah soloing is pointless.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 14:35:10
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Drjones said:
Shut up woman.


Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
If I still cared about soloing I'd probably prefer DNC for fights with enough high-damage attacks that I couldn't just Migawari them all away, especially magic damage since DNC has better MDT options (Avalon Breastplate sup). NIN's got enfeebles and ***but DNC has better raw killspeed on low-tier stuff and better spike cures for some higher-tier NMs. Soloing is such a waste of time now though, unless you're just doing it for fun =\

did you miss this entire post?

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I type long posts explaining things perfectly, people nitpick and only read like 1 sentence or troll me, never replying with a real argument or backing up their claims with proof(ninian is an exception). I then give up and figure out they'll never change their minds.
reap what you sow for the love of god.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 14:37:42
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I'll screw around and do some more translation.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 14:38:53
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thanks asymp, i still stand by my new stance suggestion i made a while back.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 14:46:14
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
I'll screw around and do some more translation.
tyvm, it's very kind of you to do this for us Japanese tard @_@
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 14:47:50
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Sylph.Kiaru said:
Nin's enfeebles are what make it better than dnc at soloing...but yeah soloing is pointless.
from a small experience, I got HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE luck sticking NIN enfeeb as dnc :3

Maybe I'm just broken.Of course it might not work as good as it does on nin but it's not too bad.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 14:57:12
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*They are considering increasing the duration of steps?
*They'll look into finishing moves after step level 5, but they mostly give a lecture about how we should be using multiple steps and maxing them over time instead of maxing one at a time >_>
*They'd consider maybe making chocobo jig extendable to the party if and only if it were to cost TP, I really hope they don't waste time testing this.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:02:21
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
Nin's enfeebles are what make it better than dnc at soloing...but yeah soloing is pointless.
from a small experience, I got HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE luck sticking NIN enfeeb as dnc :3

Maybe I'm just broken.Of course it might not work as good as it does on nin but it's not too bad.
i made a topic like 4 or 5 months ago about bein able to stick enfeebles on dnc, glad im not the only one that does this.
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By Ragnarok.Judaine 2011-08-15 15:02:45
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Bismarck.Enzoe said:
I think dancer is pretty much set for now.
Rudra's Storm>reverse flourish>Evisceration=darkness
For solo dancer rules.

One change could be dancer's getting some kind of tp benefit while in parties. I think it would be cool for the developers to offer a reason for people to want dancers in the party situation at events.

ftfy
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 15:03:49
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
Nin's enfeebles are what make it better than dnc at soloing...but yeah soloing is pointless.
from a small experience, I got HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE luck sticking NIN enfeeb as dnc :3

Maybe I'm just broken.Of course it might not work as good as it does on nin but it's not too bad.
i made a topic like 4 or 5 months ago about bein able to stick enfeebles on dnc, glad im not the only one that does this.

i remember that thread
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:05:00
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Ragnarok.Judaine said:
Bismarck.Enzoe said:
I think dancer is pretty much set for now.
Rudra's Storm>reverse flourish>Evisceration=darkness
For solo dancer rules.

One change could be dancer's getting some kind of tp benefit while in parties. I think it would be cool for the developers to offer a reason for people to want dancers in the party situation at events.

ftfy
more like rudra-rudra
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By Pooman 2011-08-15 15:05:01
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
*They are considering increasing the duration of steps?
*They'll look into finishing moves after step level 5, but they mostly give a lecture about how we should be using multiple steps and maxing them over time instead of maxing one at a time >_>
*They'd consider maybe making chocobo jig extendable to the party if and only if it were to cost TP, I really hope they don't waste time testing this.

I like how they say that chocojig is only for yourself because there's no cost to use it, but then totally ignore the fact that BRDs and CORs can do the same thing. Oh wait they paid for their spell... >.>
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-08-15 15:07:02
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You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.
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By Pooman 2011-08-15 15:08:45
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And who asks some of these lame questions anyway? Sphere-like dances? Spectral Jig overwritting Spectral Jig!? Is it really that hard to remove sneak and do it again!?!?
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:10:08
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:

i remember that thread
obviously kiaru doesn't

Sylph.Kiaru said:
You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.

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By Pooman 2011-08-15 15:11:35
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Sylph.Kiaru said:
You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.

Pretty sure they're talking about NMs, especially inside Abyssea.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 15:12:08
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Pooman said:
And who asks some of these lame questions anyway? Sphere-like dances? Spectral Jig overwritting Spectral Jig!? Is it really that hard to remove sneak and do it again!?!?

These suggestions are almost all in the JP manifesto thread. Interesting that they didn't address raise/reraise dances at all - they're just as whined about in the JP forums as they are in the EN forum.
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By Ragnarok.Judaine 2011-08-15 15:13:36
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Ragnarok.Judaine said:
Bismarck.Enzoe said:
I think dancer is pretty much set for now.
Rudra's Storm>reverse flourish>Evisceration=darkness
For solo dancer rules.

One change could be dancer's getting some kind of tp benefit while in parties. I think it would be cool for the developers to offer a reason for people to want dancers in the party situation at events.

ftfy
more like rudra-rudra

Not without Climactic! :O
okay okay okay,
Climactic->NFR->Rudra's->Reverse->Rudra's
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 15:14:14
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
i remember that thread
obviously kiaru doesn't

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I remember that thread because I spent *a lot* on then-expensive macc gear to test it, and then ended up selling most of it lol
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:15:21
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
Pooman said:
And who asks some of these lame questions anyway? Sphere-like dances? Spectral Jig overwritting Spectral Jig!? Is it really that hard to remove sneak and do it again!?!?

These suggestions are almost all in the JP manifesto thread. Interesting that they didn't address raise/reraise dances at all - they're just as whined about in the JP forums as they are in the EN forum.
well it would be nice but in this point in the game its kinda pointless, we originally wanted it because of how strong our healing capabilities were at 75, if we had it then there would be no real reason to have a healer in the party if a dnc was around. but now that we are hindered by our recast timers on our waltz' we'd still need a mage of some sort at any event (abyssea or not)
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-08-15 15:15:37
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Pooman said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.

Pretty sure they're talking about NMs, especially inside Abyssea.
Weak/low level NM's? My friend has very high acc with blm/brd songs(level 41) on really weak nm's for proccing, but can't land them at all without EM/amaizng luck on stronger NM's.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:16:13
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
i remember that thread
obviously kiaru doesn't

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I remember that thread because I spent *a lot* on then-expensive macc gear to test it, and then ended up selling most of it lol
and its still taking up a good portion of my inventory, but still works nicely, i still got that jp button handy
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:17:34
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Sylph.Kiaru said:
Pooman said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.

Pretty sure they're talking about NMs, especially inside Abyssea.
Weak/low level NM's? My friend has very high acc with /brd songs(level 41) on really weak nm's for proccing, but can't land them at all without EM/amaizng luck on stronger NM's.
sure if you consider itz, t3 abyssea vnm's and alot of heroes content weak.

but still

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By Kalima 2011-08-15 15:21:36
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There is actually a small part of me that is happy to get the answers that we did get...at least I wont be wishfully hoping every update that split waltz timers may be coming just to be disappointed again and again....and again ; ;

However, now this dev team really needs to focus on one thing, not just for DNC but for every job: stop recycling JAs and give us something unique. More than anything this is what is really pissing people off because X job is getting something that Y job had.

And to those who are mad that other jobs got what we have guess what? EVERY JA that DNC has ever had came from another job in some form. The only difference is how they implemented them all.

As far as those who say they are leaving the job because DNC has lost some of its usefulness: I cant convince you otherwise because in part i agree with you, but at the same time I play the job because I like it. And for me that should be the only reason why anyone plays any job....

Oh well /rant
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-15 15:21:59
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
and its still taking up a good portion of my inventory, but still works nicely, i still got that jp button handy

macc gear to support enfeebles that are still subject to resist all while booting -magic gear out the door due to 80 inventory cap ahoy

and enlighten me as to how dancer doesn't get their faced mauled on hahava/celaeno/voidwrought/etc, because even with perfect -physical/-magic sets on samurai, those things as well as even the t3 can be pretty damn scary currently at level ninety
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 15:22:05
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
Nin's enfeebles are what make it better than dnc at soloing...but yeah soloing is pointless.
from a small experience, I got HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE luck sticking NIN enfeeb as dnc :3

Maybe I'm just broken.Of course it might not work as good as it does on nin but it's not too bad.
i made a topic like 4 or 5 months ago about bein able to stick enfeebles on dnc, glad im not the only one that does this.
I saw your topic, you are using gear tho.I am completly naked @_@
Sometimes I will use omega + Toah ring I can never spell, With normal DD atmas and yes abyssea nms.

My ninjutsu skill is at 115 or something, I am very broken xD

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