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 Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 01:04:25
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Caitsith.Jessie said:
I'm in an odd situation. See, I'm pro-choice just because I understand the many reasons a woman could need to have an abortion. But at the same time I'm pro-life just because I've seen live footage (video recorded ultrasound) of what a fetal abortion looks like... and it's really not pretty.

To describe in words would probably get me permanently banned from the entire internet. I've explained it to a friend once, and when I only got about halfway through describing it he told me to stop.

Do you know what they do to the animals we eat? Same ***.
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:10:27
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If it's not the right time to have a child then it is not the right time to have sex. It simply is too irresponsible from an STD point of view and from a clearly humanitarian point of view to have sex without protection. All of this "I can't help it" *** is just another excuse to do the wrong thing and not take responsibility for our actions and/or be lazy. It's immature to take life for granted like that. We are not animals, we have to have a societal conscience and those that oppose abortion should focus on social responsibility instead of religiosity if they want to end this frivolous waste of time, money, human resources etc, my tax dollars should NOT be used to ease economic burden on immature and irresponsible ppl that KNOW that the biological function of coitus is reproduction, nobody is that stupid. It is not lack of education, it's lack of giving a ***(or maybe giving to many without a condom). Stop wasting my money.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:19:24
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Maybe you should read up on condoms and the pill. They're not 100%, condoms can be much less than 90% if you don't keep them in a good spot. Also need to understand that not everyone views a fetus the same way and it's a person's right to do what they want with their body so if they want to have an abortion then they should be able to. The fetus isn't a person, it has no will, no emotions and no intelligence at that stage either.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-08 01:20:59
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Aldiel said:
We are not animals...

But that's just it, we ARE animals. Don't get me wrong, I am pro-choice, as I feel there are many situations in which actually having the child can be bad for both the child and the parent(s). But we really do give in to baser instincts more often than we'd like to admit. People do have sexual relations just for pleasure. A lot of us do, in fact. And there is nothing wrong with that at all. Sex shouldn't just be "for making babies only!". Its a wonderful part of human life, and it should be enjoyed responsibly. Not only when a woman is ovulating, or only if she wants a child, or if the man wants a child.

That's like denying yourself something you thoroughly enjoy, for no good reason. Sex can be enjoyed responsibly without consequence, if both parties are smart about it...
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:23:18
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Every time I see ppl arguing about abortion all I hear is "waaaa waaaa waaa /huff I wanna stick penises in my vagina and not care about the consequences" /sigh will American women ever grow up... And the men, hell no I'm not leaving them out... Begging for sex, doing anything to get sex, pussy whipped pussies. Children in grown ppls bodies, just because there's hair on it, it doesn't make you mature.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:25:10
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Blame schools and parents for not teaching kids well enough. If you did you'd probably have less teen pregnancies.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-08 01:25:49
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Aldiel said:
Every time I see ppl arguing about abortion all I hear is "waaaa waaaa waaa /huff I wanna stick penises in my vagina and not care about the consequences" /sigh will American women ever grow up... And the men, hell no I'm not leaving them out... Begging for sex, doing anything to get sex, pussy whipped pussies. Children in grown ppls bodies, just because there's hair on it, it doesn't make you mature.


Who exactly are you mad at? You ok? You seem to be very angry at a large portion of the populous.


And as the funny comedian Ralphie May once said, "Of course I'm whipped... You can either be whipped or hand-whipped, if you catch my drift..." lol
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:30:24
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Calling yourself an animal is just another excuse to make poor decisions, grow up. And if all these abortions are being caused by prophylactic failures then they are far from 90% effective. And they are scientifically proven to be 90-99% effective so don't throw some *** numbers into your argument to make it look smarter plus it's a logical fallacy. The facts are, people are, as someone earlier put it "skin on skin *** without even trying to pull out". If it feels good do it, does not pass as reasonable to me. If you don't want a baby take precautions and stop wasting my money.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 01:32:15
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Blame schools and parents for not teaching kids well enough. If you did you'd probably have less teen pregnancies.

I agree. A lot of it is lack of education. :/
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:34:30
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I'm angry that my tax dollars which are substantial to me, are going to pay for sex-in-the-city, pretty pretty princess debutant *** to run down to planned parenthood and their fix for their Friday night fling. Ppl can do whatever they want as long as I'm not involved. I will not be a party to their irresponsible and immature sexual behavior and attitudes.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:34:56
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Aldiel said:
Calling yourself an animal is just another excuse to make poor decisions, grow up. And if all these abortions are being caused by prophylactic failures then they are far from 90% effective. And they are scientifically proven to be 90-99% effective so don't throw some *** numbers into your argument to make it look smarter plus it's a logical fallacy. The facts are, people are, as someone earlier put it "skin on skin *** without even trying to pull out". If it feels good do it, does not pass as reasonable to me. If you don't want a baby take precautions and stop wasting my money.

If you keep condoms in your pocket or your wallet etc they can tear quite easily. It's not a good place to put them. Let's not forget that they can dry out a bit too and rip from that.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:36:46
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You might wanna invest in some anger management too
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-08 01:36:55
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Aldiel said:
I'm angry that my tax dollars which are substantial to me, are going to pay for sex-in-the-city, pretty pretty princess debutant *** to run down to planned parenthood and their fix for their Friday night fling. Ppl can do whatever they want as long as I'm not involved. I will not be a party to their irresponsible and immature sexual behavior and attitudes.

Expatriate.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-08 01:37:27
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Actually, I don't just sleep with anything that moves... I am fairly cautious about what I do, and consequences my actions may have... But simply put, we are still animals... Humans are just the smartest animal out there (to my knowledge anyways). When you really break down our wants/needs, they are basically no different than most mammals. Saying we are animals is not just "an excuse". Its actual fact, is all I was getting at. We do give in to baser urges and instincts at times.
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:39:45
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Lack of education???? Are you serious?? You stick a *** in a vagina and you get a baby, you cannot tell me that schools are the problem..... You expect them to teach them to drink water, teach them to breath and blink too? This stuff is not complicated. Are you saying that schools need to teach children self control or that kids don't know at an early age that sex=babies? This is just getting ridiculous with the excuses.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:41:42
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A lot of people still think there are safe days and that pulling out is a good option so yes, there needs to be better education.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 01:43:30
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Aldiel said:
Lack of education???? Are you serious?? You stick a *** in a vagina and you get a baby, you cannot tell me that schools are the problem..... You expect them to teach them to drink water, teach them to breath and blink too? This stuff is not complicated. Are you saying that schools need to teach children self control or that kids don't know at an early age that sex=babies? This is just getting ridiculous with the excuses.

Some parents don't allow their kids to go to sex ed, and then proceed to tell them jack ***? So no, some kids don't know.

And condoms do break, etc etc. Birth control is mostly effective, but Vitamin C (iirc) and some antibiotics reduce the effectiveness of birth control. So if a girl is sick, and having sex and doesn't know this, there's a good chance she'll get pregnant. Wanna fight about it?
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:44:49
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Anger management eh, ad homonem and/or passive aggressive stab at my credibility due to lack of strength in your own argument most likely, BUY. NEW. ONES. EVERY. TIME. YOU. ***. HOLE. that clear enough? Don't you dare attack me with supposition. And if you don't have a good argument, then don't attack the person.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-07-08 01:45:50
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Anger management because you can't go one post without cussing and being hostile lol
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 01:47:28
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Anger management because you can't go one post without cussing and being hostile lol

You get topicbanned for uncontrolled anger. You should probably tone it down if you want to keep in the discussion.
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:47:29
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Now you are grasping at straws... Their parents are to blame then for not teaching them, I still shouldn't have to pay for it. Nor will I tolerate this conversation, if it may be deemed that, any long.

Seeya~
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By Aldiel 2011-07-08 01:49:12
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And I'm still not angry, just disappointed. Good night.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 01:50:07
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So my argument that antibiotics decreases the effectiveness of birth control and this isn't common knowledge is a bad argument? really?
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-07-08 01:57:55
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Aldiel said:
just because there's hair on it, it doesn't make you mature.


are you new here? this might as well be shavednerds.com
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 02:11:20
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Ragnarok.Hevans said:
are you new here? this might as well be shavednerds.com

AND I AM THE RAZOR
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-08 02:15:18
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lol Nini, don't derail this into a "no body hair" discussion! :P
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-07-08 02:16:38
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Seems I got here a bit late. XD
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 02:17:27
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol Nini, don't derail this into a "no body hair" discussion! :P

HE STARTED IT! *points finger accusingly*

Ragnarok.Anye said:
Seems I got here a bit late. XD

YOU MISSED THE PARTY! :<
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-07-08 02:18:52
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:< no one invited me!
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-08 02:25:49
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
:< no one invited me!

:<! Next time I PM you it won't be about issues it'll be... HEY ANYE THERE'S THIS THREAD COME PLAY! :O
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