The Top 5 DD

Just mentioning this incase it hasnt been mentioned.

Sure, KC Zerg would be great... Until the DRK Ran out of HP from Souleater and his club started hitting the mob for 20.

Just throwing that out there.

Bloodweapon counters that for the first 30 seconds. After that you switch to a different weapon. Although the new SE jobtrait thingy reduces the hp lost to only 5% per hit at 90.

I'm not advocating anything vs. anything. Just bored and posting in a lol thread.

***is situational.

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seriously what the ***

Unless you got Silenced then bye-bye BLU

Something everyone should know about. Better than a KC drk

Did not realize this was illegal or unobtainable.

this is seriously the first I've ever heard of a DNC being considered top tier DD.. unless Niniann comes in here and tells me otherwise I'm just going to ignore yall.

I didn't realize walls could silence.

Democratic.

If SCH is on the list, then you need to have BLU on there as well, and if SAM Self SCing makes it high on the list, then BLU would logically be first.

Well aren't you classy.

Are you kidding me? lol

Either way within this situation silence shouldn't matter, as the opponent doesn't seem to be doing anything against the player at all, so status' are pointless to bring into it.

Just as this thread is pointless.

Seriously though, everyone knows the 'best DD' is not the one that can deal the most damage to a wall within 5 minutes. The best DD is the one who is dealing consistant damage, mitigating damage towards themselves when hate is pulled and performing any other tasks that are required within the situation E.g. Pulling hate off a mage rather than stand back not wanting to draw hate because you're worried about your buffer.

I love my blu but I don't think it'd win but my estimations are as much based on guesses and assumptions as most of the other posts here so I wouldn't bet anything either way.

My first thought was ryuu drg but with no form of self haste or other buffs it would probably not go as well. Other than that I don't know nearly enough about damage calculations to make any guesses.

I would be curious to see some things mathed out but in the long run it doesn't really mean anything because it is not a practical in game situation. Yea! for winning the special Olympics!

and no, not brewed.

a dnc geared for DDing not your usual dumb *** that run around without every slot having evasion does some pretty rediculous dmg, not to mention with the crit ratio being re-done and the massive amount of attacks they can pull off without any outside buffs, it more or less destroys everything else.

there's a thread on bg that was talking about DD tiers and iirc in a party situation dnc was 4th.

Honestly, zerging on DNC is far more fun anyways. <3 me some Saber Dance.

lol

People still play BLU?

Someone need to tell them that it's not 2006 anymore, JoT is probably the last and only time I ever remember a BLU being remotely interesting/useful/worth bringing over an afk person.

On topic:

Let's do it VS fighting style:

S - SAM
A - WAR
B - DRK
C - The rest.

I don't know what the big deal is I never said DNC sucks I just would not think they were a top tier DD my quote got cut off:


I would think your RNG would out perform a DNC. I've seen many DNCs take a long time to solo NMs, the good ones eventually kill it (with no procs) the bad ones just die trying.

Yeah, evasion gear does that to you. Going from 48% DW to 30, and dropping almost all haste in gear and haste samba for fan dance.

Mute D:

lol

I can't put SAM ahead of WAR, even when it was the bandwagon job of choice lol..

Solo DNC and DD DNC are two different beasts, though a good solo DNC can mix in some of the DD traits and not take all day to kill the NM. 35% haste, defense down + crit evasion down with the ability to get back more TP than was spent, ~21% DA from Saber Dance, and 48% DW makes for a pretty good DD in unbuffed situations.

You do raise a good point though for the overall discussion, RNG loses almost nothing in unbuffed situations.

WAR MNK NIN BLU SAM - same as been for long time damn u SE give us new jobs!!!!!

Do you channel a samurai spirit?

I was referring to the "just going to ignore yall" part. Could my RNG outperform my DNC? In a zerg situation where I could use all of my offensive JAs and self light with a crit emp ws, probably. If my DNC had Twashtar, not sure, most likely yes. The fact that DNC can hit near delay reduction cap by itself and force crit Rudra's for some big numbers and offensive JAs like Saber Dance and Reverse Flourish to self-SC makes DNC very competitive.

lolsam

Too bad you never took them up on the challenge. RDM is the only job I'm scared of on BLU. The ONLY other job that beat my BLU in brenner was a very talented pld/RDM; he is a good friend of mine and I also have 90 PLD so I admire how good he is at the job.

SAM WAR DRG DRK type of jobs get CRUSHED by blu. Every time. Assuming neither party are complete idiots with decent gear. You wanna get close? We can get in your face too. Same friend who beat me once on pld/rdm has an even PIMPER MNK and everyone always believed his MNK was invincible in brenner. I put him down quickly between cocoon+plasma charge. He stunned himself to death ;)

BLU is too versatile to even be labelled a "DD". But when played properly and intelligently, it's a solid job that can hold its own and contribute to any situation.

"I", your choice to picture SAM as a 2008 bandwagon, mine to picture it as a powerful job since 2004.